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Post by iamjumbo on Dec 18, 2009 10:52:20 GMT
what the hell does the dictionary definition of prostitution have to do with anything? It has nothing to do with anything and everything to do with prostitution! Really, Dumbo, words do have meaning. Well then, sex is still involved one way or another. Most first graders start their sentences with capital letters; why can’t you? Son, I don’t want to have to tell you this again; stop regurgitating all that new age feminist psychology crap that you’ve been reading. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3137644.ece my mom always told me that doing that would make you insane. now i believe her Well then, maybe you ought to give your hand a rest for a while and see if your sanity returns. you do have my condolences. whether it is by choice, or because of infirmity, your inability to form an intelligent thought is certainly of concern. i trust that you will seek treatment for this malady. you are obviously conclusive proof that my mother was right
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Post by Liberator on Dec 19, 2009 22:21:36 GMT
FiFee (I can't remember who called you that, but I like it!) ;D Be careful: I once called an acquiantance by the name of Fiona Fifi and she snapped "I am not a French poodle!" There, I rather fear may be some wishful thinking. For some men, the best part of sex is the power trip of getting a reluctant woman to do it. After that she can bugger off while he works on the next challenge. Masturbation is a bad thing (like most things) if becomes the dominant thing, and in the sense that it focusses on one's own sensations and on the rush for orgasm through extremes instead of on giving and 'wallowing in' sensuality for its own sake. I suspect that is why women who have been encouraged to go for the clit-org (sounds like something out of Scientology ) often find real sexual experiences disappointing, because they have not learnt to relax and enjoy - too like high-speed aircraft than a train allowing to sit back and enjoy the scenery.
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 21, 2009 21:07:51 GMT
you do have my condolences. whether it is by choice, or because of infirmity, your inability to form an intelligent thought is certainly of concern. i trust that you will seek treatment for this malady. you are obviously conclusive proof that my mother was right LMAO! Jumbo, I must admit that you really do crack me up sometimes for there is nothing funnier than a peasant who is desperately trying to pass himself off as an aristocrat.
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Post by iamjumbo on Dec 21, 2009 21:35:37 GMT
you do have my condolences. whether it is by choice, or because of infirmity, your inability to form an intelligent thought is certainly of concern. i trust that you will seek treatment for this malady. you are obviously conclusive proof that my mother was right LMAO! Jumbo, I must admit that you really do crack me up sometimes for there is nothing funnier than a peasant who is desperately trying to pass himself off as an aristocrat. i quite agree. so, the logical question would be, knowing this, why do you continue to do it?
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 22, 2009 9:50:38 GMT
i quite agree. so, the logical question would be, knowing this, why do you continue to do it? I think you need to ask yourself that, Jumbo. Personally, I am of the opinion that you suffer from an inferiority complex and are desperately trying to compensate for it.
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Post by iamjumbo on Dec 23, 2009 21:48:51 GMT
i quite agree. so, the logical question would be, knowing this, why do you continue to do it? I think you need to ask yourself that, Jumbo. Personally, I am of the opinion that you suffer from an inferiority complex and are desperately trying to compensate for it. your description of yourself is cool, but, you didn't answer the question, unless of course, you actually do enjoy being the clown. actually, it is true that i have a terrible inferiority complex. i'm so much greater than i think i am.
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Post by arizonavet on Dec 24, 2009 19:10:58 GMT
My own personal opinion is that prostitution should not be a crime and that the state should have no power to regulate the sex lives of consenting adults. It is my position that if a woman wants to sell her body and a man wants to pay for her sexual services it should be nobody’s business but theirs. Below is a link to “100 Countries and Their Prostitution Policies” prostitution.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=000772 Very good lonewolf....complete agreement. Prostitution laws, like "blue laws" concerning alcohol, and gambling prohibitions, are fine examples of individual "morals" entering into what should be logical public/innocents protecting laws.
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Post by Liberator on Dec 24, 2009 19:16:29 GMT
In reality it's impossible to regulate. Is the girl who expects to be paid for and bought drinks all night on the understand of sex a prostitute or not? Does paying a friend's bus fare make her a prostitute? the fact that I do not care for one-way sexual relations does not mean that others don't. And if I'd been born female and knew at 16 what I know now, I would certainly have gone on the game and kept some control over my life and good money instead of selling myself to any employer who'd have me.
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Post by clemiethedog on Dec 31, 2009 15:22:51 GMT
I agree with your position, lonewolf. One caveat, though; I think it should be regulated. And by regulated I also mean that prostitution of any kind involving a minor should be severly punished.
That said, I wish there was less of it. I can't think of any girl who would declare: "when I grow up I want to be a prostitute."
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Post by Liberator on Dec 31, 2009 15:35:00 GMT
I had a girlfriend who'd wanted to be a tripper because she liked the idea of the power trip. It depends what you're doing I suppose. There've been plenty of girls who wouldn't see themselves exactly as prostitutes but have a better time as celebrities expecting everything to be paid for them than they could working, and there are those who realise that they have certain kinky likings that men will pay for in an hour what they wouldn't earn in a week. Then again, there's teenage streetwalkers trying to feed a drug habit.
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 16, 2010 5:29:48 GMT
the exchange of money for sex is what makes it a crime. if you were walking down the street, and picked up a girl for sex, that is perfectly legal, as long as no money, or drugs, etc change hands. I would chance a guess that the laws prohibiting prostitution are unconstitutional. In any case, as a red-blooded American, I believe in freedom of choice and I find it reprehensible that the American people stand by like mindless dolts and allow their respective governments to regulate their private sex lives.
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Post by sadie1263 on Apr 17, 2010 1:13:20 GMT
I've always found it odd that it is perfectly legal for two men to go into a ring and get paid thousands (if not millions of dollars) to attempt to beat each other's brains out......but illegal to pay someone for sexual gratification.
I think if it was legalized you could reduce the amount of diseases that are passed around in that field, also the drugs that are passed around.....also the underground selling of young girls into this field. Also......you could tax it....might as well let that industry start paying into the system.....it's been around longer than most of the others. Heck....let it unionize and give the females that work a say in how it is run.
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Post by cammie on Apr 17, 2010 9:21:26 GMT
Once the gubment gets their greedy outstretched hands clutched next to death 'round that pimp money, they will come up with some guidelines: __________________ Missionary postion $X, B.Jobs $Y w/ penalties on a no-drip clause......... The IRS rats scurring between sheets with metal detectors. Gotta find every last penny ya know, just to keep cheese stacked up a mile high in every welfare fridge cause baby-daddy's pimp job is dissolved and now he's.. he's (sob whaaaaah) too exhausted running the streets to look a REAL job. Legalize prostitution? It's got it's ups and downs.
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Post by everso on Apr 17, 2010 13:56:22 GMT
Sweden has swung from acceptance to assuming that every client knows the woman is reluctantly trafficked even though the UK at least has produced no evidence of any prostitutes trafficked against their will. However, there is proof that such exist even if they cant be proven to formal legal requirements. My own feeling is that intercourse without the other's equal 'desire' or caring how she feels about it is tantamount to rape but sailing just on the right side of the wind. The man who looks on a woman as a provider of sex for himself without caring how she feels about it as long as he can browbeat her into giving consent to make it legally acceptable today is the man liable to use illegal pressure or just plain force for the same service tomorrow. Strangely, it is women who most support this kind of social rape, especially when they call themselves feminists. I can't condemn prostitution outright. I can criticise both the attitude of men to think of sex as for themselves and not shared, and of women to see it 'traditionally' as a service for sale to men that women are too superior to the coarse masculine world to enjoy. There can be sexual thrills that anybody with love and respect for their lover knows they do not enjoy, so might sek them elsewhere. I find it personally humiliating if I thought I wanted some kink so weird, or I was so repulsive, that I could only get it by paying. Shall I post a Christmas quiz asking members to guess who this is? ;D Bless his little cotton socks.
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Post by everso on Apr 17, 2010 13:59:41 GMT
then get a better alternative, but I haven't seen anyone suggest one yet. I suggest the better alternative would be for you and your government to learn that what goes on behind closed doors between two consenting adults is really none of your business. Anyone who makes a living over and above their tax-free allowance should be paying tax and national insurance. If everyone else has to abide by those rules, why shouldn't they? I think it IS our business in that case!
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Post by sadie1263 on Apr 17, 2010 14:22:25 GMT
Once the gubment gets their greedy outstretched hands clutched next to death 'round that pimp money, they will come up with some guidelines: __________________ Missionary postion $X, B.Jobs $Y w/ penalties on a no-drip clause......... The IRS rats scurring between sheets with metal detectors. Gotta find every last penny ya know, just to keep cheese stacked up a mile high in every welfare fridge cause baby-daddy's pimp job is dissolved and now he's.. he's (sob whaaaaah) too exhausted running the streets to look a REAL job. Legalize prostitution? It's got it's ups and downs. The visual on that is way too funny ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 17, 2010 23:45:10 GMT
I suggest the better alternative would be for you and your government to learn that what goes on behind closed doors between two consenting adults is really none of your business. Anyone who makes a living over and above their tax-free allowance should be paying tax and national insurance. If everyone else has to abide by those rules, why shouldn't they? I think it IS our business in that case! When prostitutes are no longer treated as criminals and afforded the very same protections that other workers receive then, YES, they should pay taxes. However, until that time comes I can see no reason why they should be compelled to support a system that victimizes and discriminates against them.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 18, 2010 0:37:49 GMT
The whole sex thing is really complicated. Men really want women to cooperate. But they don't want them to be whores or sluts. The perfect woman is a virgin who saved herself just for me and will not resist tonight in the car parked on the hill overlooking the city. She would give herself to me whenever I want her but she would never consider having sex with some other man.
Nothing about the sex thing makes a lot of sense but it does keep our attention.
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 18, 2010 4:07:07 GMT
The whole sex thing is really complicated. On the contrary the “sex thing” is really quite simple. It only becomes complicated when sexually perverted politicians step in and attempt to dictate to the citizenry what they may and may not do in the bedroom.
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Post by mouse on Apr 18, 2010 8:10:32 GMT
The whole sex thing is really complicated. On the contrary the “sex thing” is really quite simple. It only becomes complicated when sexually perverted politicians step in and attempt to dictate to the citizenry what they may and may not do in the bedroom. but its hardly in the ""bedroom"" when it has to be paid for..its a service/transaction between two willing parties.. no pay no sex so yes prostitution should be legalised to stop the exploitation of women and men prostitutes by pimps etc there is nothing perverted about wanting prostitution legalised but i can see problems ahead with ooman rights and elf and safety
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