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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 19:57:04 GMT
We are all individuals with brains that think and analyse data and the personal experiences that we each have which bring us to the conclusions that we have decided to be true. We each put these viewpoints forward in our posts. I am no different than anyone else. We have to decide whether each person is stating the truth of their experience, that is all that is required really.!!! You ofcourse demand more proof, which ofcourse I am unable to give, so you label it as fantasy, thus suggesting that I am perhaps having a hallucination, or maybe worse still, calling me a liar. We, men an tol and Interested Bob and I, were talking about the possibility of the existence of 'worm holes' which would provide a doorway for quick and easy space travel. As far as I am concerned there is definitely a way that we still haven't discovered. When experiencing Soul travel, we can go back in time or into the future, depending on on what is necessary for our spiritual benefit and consequent evolvement. I have been shown many past lives and I have also seen into the future. I know this because, what I saw beforehand has come true. To me the proof is there for me alone, as I am the one having that particular experience. It is obvious therefore that I am never going to be able to prove it.!!! Hopefully you will understand that and just take my viewpoints for what they are worth. No skin off my nose, for sure.!!! The reference I made to Albert Einstein’s theory of general relativity was in the news today noting efforts which have proven the validity of this theory. That is, the detection for the first time of the of gravitational waves coming from the collision of two distant black holes. That is, no ifs, no maybes, no myth using of scientific terms, but rather actual evidence. I should also refer to your comment on worm holes as these fall into the area of mathematical conjecture. These are postulated to exist from the mathematical work continuing on the theory of general relativity and one of the common theories (there are others) is Lorentzian wormholes known as Schwarzschild wormholes or Einstein–Rosen bridges. These Lorentzian traversable wormholes would allow travel in both directions from one part of the universe to another part of that same universe very quickly or would allow travel from one universe to another. The possibility of traversable wormholes in general relativity was first demonstrated by Kip Thorne and his graduate student Mike Morris in a 1988 paper. For this reason, the type of traversable wormhole they proposed, held open by a spherical shell of exotic matter, is referred to as a Morris–Thorne wormhole. Later, other types of traversable wormholes were discovered as allowable solutions to the equations of general relativity, including a variety analyzed in a 1989 paper by Matt Visser, in which a path through the wormhole can be made where the traversing path does not pass through a region of exotic matter. However, in the pure Gauss–Bonnet gravity (a modification to general relativity involving extra spatial dimensions which is sometimes studied in the context of brane cosmology) exotic matter is not needed in order for wormholes to exist—they can exist even with no matter. (reference for this is John G. Cramer; Robert L. Forward; Michael S. Morris; Matt Visser; Gregory Benford & Geoffrey A. Landis (1995). "Natural Wormholes as Gravitational Lenses". Physical Review D 51 (6): 3117–3120.) A type held open by negative mass cosmic strings was put forth by Visser in collaboration with Cramer et al., in which it was proposed that such wormholes could have been naturally created in the early universe. I offer the preceding demonstrating the difference between mathematical hypothesis and the mathematical work defining these things; relative to, using the terminology with no understanding of the mathematical requirements. The former is from the reality of the temporal world and the latter is no more than science fiction playing with myth.
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Feb 14, 2016 5:43:40 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 14, 2016 5:43:40 GMT
Hi Men an tol, Are you suggesting that nobody should believe the evidence of their own eyes. What a way to go through life always unsure about what you see. I don't agree with that supposition. I am sure of what I have seen, that is what a brain is designed for, to analyse.!!! Yes, I am suggesting that people do not always correctly understand what they believe that they have seen. In a court of law the visual witness is most often the least reliable and that is the reason that most cases require corroborating evidence. Hi Men an tol As far as I am concerned It doesn't matter how many people give out the same description, it is still a separate entity repeating the same thing as the first one and If you don't believe the first one, why should you believe the info of the second person.They could just be as wrong as the first person. IMO.
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Feb 14, 2016 6:06:35 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 14, 2016 6:06:35 GMT
Hi Men an tol, I have seen that on TV many times lately. It certainly is very interesting that two black holes could crash into one another and produce these waves which could allow Quantum Physicists to go back in time to the beginning of creation. But I wonder just how these black holes came to exist in the first place. It seems to me that the more we find out, the more enigmatic Creation becomes.
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Feb 14, 2016 6:26:33 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 14, 2016 6:26:33 GMT
Yes, I am suggesting that people do not always correctly understand what they believe that they have seen. In a court of law the visual witness is most often the least reliable and that is the reason that most cases require corroborating evidence. it's even harder to prove when it's happening inside their own head! Hi Gibby, Everything is happening only in each person's head. Our senses tell us that it is happeing, that is all that we have to let us know what we perceive is happening. We could each be hallucinating in our own way, perhaps even having the same hallucination. Who is to know for sure? And tell me, who decides what mental illness is, someone perhaps who is having their own set of hallucinations? I am just going to enjoy the experiences that I am having, believe that they are the truth, and add them to everyone else's viewpoints. How do you like them apples?
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Feb 14, 2016 7:02:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 7:02:03 GMT
it's even harder to prove when it's happening inside their own head! Hi Gibby, Everything is happening only in each person's head. Our senses tell us that it is happeing, that is all that we have to let us know what we perceive is happening. We could each be hallucinating in our own way, perhaps even having the same hallucination. Who is to know for sure? And tell me, who decides what mental illness is, someone perhaps who is having their own set of hallucinations? I am just going to enjoy the experiences that I am having, believe that they are the truth, and add them to everyone else's viewpoints. How do you like them apples? Because it's happening in your head it's not real to me therefore I discount it , it isn't real , it doesn't exist to me and is proof of nothing to anyone else. Mental illness on the other hand is real .
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Feb 14, 2016 8:14:12 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 14, 2016 8:14:12 GMT
Hi BigLin. In speaking in general you were talking to all the members of your forum who would read your post. You advised them to read with a cautious and open mind rather than an attitude of naive credulity or dogmatic assertions. You are suggesting then, that either of these attitudes could be possible, and were advising against thinking this way. I was just respondiing to your post in like kind. Why add, that at least you are answering on the right thread, if you weren't being somewhat catty? I reply on the thread that someone more experienced than I has posted, why didn't you tell them? No doubt you are in one of your high and mighty moods that you display every once in a while?WOA! no cat fighting here! As far as I am concerned, everything is said tongue in cheek, we are all one big happy group of people just responding to whatever is being said.
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Feb 14, 2016 9:24:49 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 14, 2016 9:24:49 GMT
Hi Menan tol, what makes you think that I don't understand the situation. I understand it very well, I just don't accept it. I see two sides to everything, but though I undestand your side of the coin, I am only prepared to accept my own experiences as being the truth. I trust the Intelligence that is enlightening me with spiritual understanding.
As I have said before, I live in this world the same as you do, so I know the overall thoughts that are accepted as the truth in this physical plane. Comparing it to the other kind of knowledge that I receive, I lean towards the spiritual truth of my experiences. Therefore that is what I will give out as a viewpoint. Isn't that what we are all doing?
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Feb 14, 2016 9:53:36 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 14, 2016 9:53:36 GMT
Hi Gibby, If you think that you are the physical body only, that is your prerogative. I know that I am Soul, (a unit of awareness) occupying a physical body whilst living in this physical plane.
I know there are other planes each finer than the other, up to the true spiritual planes where God resides. The physical plane is only there to give us experiences to teach us certain things. If you choose not to believe what I am saying but would rather believe that these experiences are rather a state of mental illness, so be it.!!!
It won't change anything. Believe what you like. The reason that I believe and trust my experiences, is because, some have already come true in this physical plane where we are living at the present time.
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Feb 14, 2016 10:15:30 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 14, 2016 10:15:30 GMT
Hi Gibby, what is mental illness according to you? Is it attributing something that is not understood to being accepted as an aberration of the mind because of perhaps the abnormal function of the brain?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 10:28:15 GMT
Hi Gibby, what is mental illness according to you? Is it attributing something that is not understood to being accepted as an aberration of the mind because of perhaps the abnormal function of the brain? mental illness is the medical definition , not what it means to me personally I am not medically qualified but mental illness has been classified as an illness. There are easily recognisable symptoms of mental illness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 4:33:16 GMT
Hi Men an tol, I have seen that on TV many times lately. It certainly is very interesting that two black holes could crash into one another and produce these waves which could allow Quantum Physicists to go back in time to the beginning of creation. But I wonder just how these black holes came to exist in the first place. It seems to me that the more we find out, the more enigmatic Creation becomes. Scottish Lassie, it was announced by David Reitze, Executive Director of the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) at the National Press Club in Washington DC on Thursday 11 February 2016. He was accompanied by other LIGO researchers and the National Science Foundation Head from France. This was a big deal in that the discovery was a vindication of Albert Einstein’s 1916 predictions. The detection devices (2 of them work together) are the beginning of a new field of research. In this event (the 2 black holes running into each other is 1.3 billion light years in the past. This sort of like looking at a pebble being tossed into a pool of water and the waves generated in the pool are an analogy of the gravity waves from this collision. But this leads on to the reality that gravity waves have been, and are, around us all of the time affecting gravitational space time. However, even those in LIGO say that this is not time travel and likely will not lead to it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 17:41:51 GMT
it's even harder to prove when it's happening inside their own head! Hi Gibby, Everything is happening only in each person's head. Our senses tell us that it is happeing, that is all that we have to let us know what we perceive is happening. We could each be hallucinating in our own way, perhaps even having the same hallucination. Who is to know for sure? And tell me, who decides what mental illness is, someone perhaps who is having their own set of hallucinations? I am just going to enjoy the experiences that I am having, believe that they are the truth, and add them to everyone else's viewpoints. How do you like them apples? Back some years ago when ‘new age’ beliefs began to be the rage with such as the Hara Krishna, and George Harrison’s acceptance of Transcendental Meditation and gatherings at the ashram of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in India? There were many others who delved into things mystic and misty. While they became popular, firm ground was never developed, it was more of a, ‘I believe and therefore it is true and you too should believe. Sort of a Timothy Leary with less dependence on LSD, although LSD or its equivalent would assist the beliefs. At the same time, without the fanfare of the neophytes, those in the temporal world of the hard sciences continued to do research of a less ephemeral nature and contribute solid development. And yet, there continued those in the mystic worlds who would grab on to words of the hard science community which sounded exotic, but certainly not understood, and they would create new meanings and then assert that the people of hard science supported their last brand of . . . . . . of . . . . . . of whatever latest mystical mental meanderings would draw more of the uninformed to them. Such would-be leaders of the of the flock have always been with us, they still are. Usually they are harmless, but every once in a while along comes a charismatic leader and since there is nothing solid, down the road to Hamlin Town they go, following his flute playing the words of science without paying the price of understanding, and, you get a Jim Jones. Who is to know for sure? In the world of mysticism and make believe, no one, just believe is the bumper sticker phrase that substitutes for actual learning, substitutes for actual knowledge. Just believe because no one knows for sure! With that as our guide learning, education, even the learning of language and mathematics become superfluous and we can all just set back and hold hands with Alice as we walk through the looking glass into extinction.
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Feb 21, 2016 3:42:59 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 21, 2016 3:42:59 GMT
Hi Men an tol, Life does seem to be a little like Alice through the Looking Glass. It is even in the Bible that at the present time, we only see life as if through a glass darkly, which seems to imply the same understanding.
Truth never changes, it is our perspective of the truth that does. As we are further enlightened then our perspective of what constitutes truth, changes accordingly, so simple.!!! We are really all at different levels of enlightenment because of what we have decided to believe.
We are the ones who call the shots as to what we will experience as we go through life. So each person is learning the lessons of life at their own pace, so they can not blame anyone else for what is happening in their lives. You do reap what you sow without a doubt.!!!
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Feb 21, 2016 4:09:03 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 21, 2016 4:09:03 GMT
Hi Men an tol, What you don't seem to realise is: that the physical plane vibrates at the coarsest level, as the vibrations become finer there are other dimensions that can be visited and in each dimension we experience it as a tangible reality, so no matter where we happen to be living, it will seem to be solid and real to us.
I have seen entities that just appear as spheres of light. In order for me to see them it means that I have been temporarily lifted to that dimension, whch ofcourse happens through the function of a certain part of the brain especially designed for God to communicate with us, via the Holy Spirit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 6:09:45 GMT
Oh Scottish Lassie I do understand. With all due respect that is all total gobblety-gook.
The vibrations that you are incorrectly referring to are at best derived from mathematical string theory and you are using the reference in ways that do not represent any of the theories. Yes, in part some of that mathematical theory defines a form of vibration but not anything like what you are trying to create. I suggest that if you are going to continue in this vain either learn mathematics so you understand a little of what you’re talking about, or start a comedy act, or just go back to smoking funny stuff.
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Feb 21, 2016 7:02:05 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 21, 2016 7:02:05 GMT
Hi Men an tol, there is so much for us to find out yet. As far as I am concerned, life is amazing.. It's just as well we have all these people working on our behalf so that we are kept informed of the latest discovery. It is all so exciting IMO.
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Feb 21, 2016 7:28:25 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 21, 2016 7:28:25 GMT
Oh Scottish Lassie I do understand. With all due respect that is all total gobblety-gook. The vibrations that you are incorrectly referring to are at best derived from mathematical string theory and you are using the reference in ways that do not represent any of the theories. Yes, in part some of that mathematical theory defines a form of vibration but not anything like what you are trying to create. I suggest that if you are going to continue in this vain either learn mathematics so you understand a little of what you’re talking about, or start a comedy act, or just go back to smoking funny stuff. Hi Men an tol, I take it you are joking, I have never ever smoked any funny stuff. I have forgotten so much, but I have always thought that everything can be reduced to an energy,and what is energy? Is it not a wave or vibration? I have heard of the string theory and have to admit that I don't understand everything about it, it just doesn't stick in my memory, mainly because I don't have the time to study it in great detail, but I find it all very interesting just the same. The words that I use are not necessarily the correct technical terms but if it amuses you somewhat, I don't mind. Enjoy yourself.!!!
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Feb 21, 2016 7:54:58 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 21, 2016 7:54:58 GMT
Hi Men an tol, As we relax in our homes the empty space that we see around us, isn't so empty as we think it is. There are a whole lot of different waves flying around invisible to the naked eye, so it is not really as empty as we think. We ourselves emit thought waves for starters and probably energy waves from other parts of the human body. As far as I am concerned everything gives off a wave or vibration of some kind.
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