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Post by sadie1263 on Jun 30, 2012 13:01:58 GMT
Last couple of nights I have been watching the UFO Files on National Geographic (or Discovery...can't remember)
I think they are all reruns...but I've never seen them. They have been really fascinating. Going over actual accounts and presenting all the facts they can. Also...the show last night brought up USO's.....unidentified submerged objects. It was really nothing I had ever though about. But they mentioned what better place for them to hide but in the oceans......who's going to be able to really search for them? They went all the way back to Columbus on his way to discovering America....where he recorded seeing unexplained things......there are numerous naval (everyone's) reports of things in the water moving faster than anything we have and depths we aren't capable of achieving (or at least at the time)....things moving from the water and then shooting up into the sky.
I have always believed there are other beings out there. I don't blame them for not making contact....we would just shoot at them.
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Post by Hunny on Jun 30, 2012 15:43:19 GMT
Last couple of nights I have been watching the UFO Files on National Geographic (or Discovery...can't remember) I think they are all reruns...but I've never seen them. They have been really fascinating. Going over actual accounts and presenting all the facts they can. Also...the show last night brought up USO's.....unidentified submerged objects. It was really nothing I had ever though about. But they mentioned what better place for them to hide but in the oceans......who's going to be able to really search for them? They went all the way back to Columbus on his way to discovering America....where he recorded seeing unexplained things......there are numerous naval (everyone's) reports of things in the water moving faster than anything we have and depths we aren't capable of achieving (or at least at the time)....things moving from the water and then shooting up into the sky. I have always believed there are other beings out there. I don't blame them for not making contact....we would just shoot at them. Oh, lol! ..I shouldn't laugh, but it's so true. All they need do is get within 60 light years and pick up some TV transmissions of our old sci-fi movies...they'd see we shoot till the gun's empty, and then throw the empty revolver at their hull ...Not sure why I find it so funny. Oh wait, yea, it's because I love those old movies! They're like comedy because they're so awful, they're funny. Are there aliens? There must be. Carl Sagan figured out an estimate of a couple billion other inhabited planets in a cosmos so vast, but he added that the likelihood of any of them being able to fly fast enough to reach here is slim, and he also pointed out that their stage in development is likely to be a lot different, so we might have nothing in common. They might just see us the way we see insect life, or lower animals. QUOTES & FACTS: The Greek philosopher Metrodorus in the 4th century B.C. wrote; “To consider the Earth as the only world with life in all of space, is as absurd as to believe that in an entire field sown with grain only one plant will grow.” In India the big bang theory had already been thought of (and written into a religion) at that time also. “Man must rise above the Earth, above the atmosphere, and beyond. For only then will he understand the true nature of the world he is in.” (Socrates ) “We shall not cease from exploration. And the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.” (T.S. Elliot) “The future possibilities of space travel”, wrote the philosopher Bertrand Russell, in 1959, “which are now left mainly to unfounded fantasy, could be treated more soberly, without ceasing to be interesting – and could convince even the most adventurous of the young that a world without war need not be a world without adventurous and hazardous glory. To this type of contest there could be no limit, each victory merely a prelude to the next. And no boundaries could be set to rational hope.” N.A.S.A. has had three methods of near-light speed travel, on its desk, since the 60’s. It’s understandable that we needed to develop some important technologies, and skills learned in low orbit testing. However that has been done. The hold up now is simply the unwillingness to stop wasting the money needed to do this, on war. The world is currently spending 1.7 trillion U.S. dollars per year on war. - and the pittance given to NASA’s annual budget is only for military and corporate use. We are not “going” anywhere. *arms-folded disappointment & bewilderment* Well, not soon apparently, but one day...we might just be the UFO's!
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Post by sadie1263 on Jun 30, 2012 15:48:50 GMT
It would be pretty arrogant (and lunacy) to think that in this vast universe.....we were the best thing that had happened.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Feb 17, 2015 22:05:12 GMT
Last couple of nights I have been watching the UFO Files on National Geographic (or Discovery...can't remember) I think they are all reruns...but I've never seen them. They have been really fascinating. Going over actual accounts and presenting all the facts they can. Also...the show last night brought up USO's.....unidentified submerged objects. It was really nothing I had ever though about. But they mentioned what better place for them to hide but in the oceans......who's going to be able to really search for them? They went all the way back to Columbus on his way to discovering America....where he recorded seeing unexplained things......there are numerous naval (everyone's) reports of things in the water moving faster than anything we have and depths we aren't capable of achieving (or at least at the time)....things moving from the water and then shooting up into the sky. I have always believed there are other beings out there. I don't blame them for not making contact....we would just shoot at them. Hi sade1263, Yes, I have read of these events and I believe them to be true. I myself have seen one during daylight hours. I was out in the garden when I heard an aeroplane, I looked up and saw it, then as it moved on I saw a round shining object higher in the sky. I perceived it to have been observing the aeroplane. Anyway, after the plane had disappeared and as I was watching, it seemed to turn on its side and just disappeared. I read in the papers that a whole lot of people had seen a UFO the night before, following a train. It must have been still hanging around the next day, therefore, giving me the opportunity to witness it as well.
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Post by tbn on Aug 9, 2015 14:28:22 GMT
Last couple of nights I have been watching the UFO Files on National Geographic (or Discovery...can't remember) I think they are all reruns...but I've never seen them. They have been really fascinating. Going over actual accounts and presenting all the facts they can. Also...the show last night brought up USO's.....unidentified submerged objects. It was really nothing I had ever though about. But they mentioned what better place for them to hide but in the oceans......who's going to be able to really search for them? They went all the way back to Columbus on his way to discovering America....where he recorded seeing unexplained things......there are numerous naval (everyone's) reports of things in the water moving faster than anything we have and depths we aren't capable of achieving (or at least at the time)....things moving from the water and then shooting up into the sky. I have always believed there are other beings out there. I don't blame them for not making contact....we would just shoot at them. I am happy to see you have a open mind and interest in this... Now I will tell you the real reason we humans don't get contacted by extraterrestrial beings the way we would like to. First things first, Earth is a very young planet 4.543 billion years old within this universe, Scientists estimate that the hominid lineage diverged from the ape lineage 5 to 8 million years ago. Homo sapiens, the species to which we belong, has existed for less than 500,000 years. Let's go with the idea another planet is out there somewhere 20 billion years old with intelligent extraterrestrial life on it not only they're another advanced being but fifteen billion four hundred fifty-seven million years advanced, Even though ants have been around longer than we have that would be like us going to a ant hill in our backyard striking up a conversation with the ant colony, ants are very intelligent species but they have nothing to contribute to humans as we have nothing to contribute to an extraterrestrial being except for Earth's resources and they are not needing our primitive help.... The USO's you mentioned mine resources from under the seas for thousands of years UFO extraterrestrial craft utilize energy from the skies and atmosphere and so on. Now what I'm about that says a bit overwhelming but true, If you believe it or not it doesn't matter... We have been contacted from about 5 species if I remember correctly one time with then president Dwight D. Eisenhower the meeting did not go well and was marked hush hush and a national security threat... I'm not going to say much more about this but look into some research pointed toward the Majestic 12 and only them if you really want true facts, you wont find much but there is some Info out there
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 22:08:57 GMT
I'd like to see a UFO for real. That would be amazing.
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Sept 11, 2015 16:08:51 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 11, 2015 16:08:51 GMT
Last couple of nights I have been watching the UFO Files on National Geographic (or Discovery...can't remember) I think they are all reruns...but I've never seen them. They have been really fascinating. Going over actual accounts and presenting all the facts they can. Also...the show last night brought up USO's.....unidentified submerged objects. It was really nothing I had ever though about. But they mentioned what better place for them to hide but in the oceans......who's going to be able to really search for them? They went all the way back to Columbus on his way to discovering America....where he recorded seeing unexplained things......there are numerous naval (everyone's) reports of things in the water moving faster than anything we have and depths we aren't capable of achieving (or at least at the time)....things moving from the water and then shooting up into the sky. I have always believed there are other beings out there. I don't blame them for not making contact....we would just shoot at them. I am happy to see you have a open mind and interest in this... Now I will tell you the real reason we humans don't get contacted by extraterrestrial beings the way we would like to. First things first, Earth is a very young planet 4.543 billion years old within this universe, Scientists estimate that the hominid lineage diverged from the ape lineage 5 to 8 million years ago. Homo sapiens, the species to which we belong, has existed for less than 500,000 years. Let's go with the idea another planet is out there somewhere 20 billion years old with intelligent extraterrestrial life on it not only they're another advanced being but fifteen billion four hundred fifty-seven million years advanced, Even though ants have been around longer than we have that would be like us going to a ant hill in our backyard striking up a conversation with the ant colony, ants are very intelligent species but they have nothing to contribute to humans as we have nothing to contribute to an extraterrestrial being except for Earth's resources and they are not needing our primitive help.... The USO's you mentioned mine resources from under the seas for thousands of years UFO extraterrestrial craft utilize energy from the skies and atmosphere and so on. Now what I'm about that says a bit overwhelming but true, If you believe it or not it doesn't matter... We have been contacted from about 5 species if I remember correctly one time with then president Dwight D. Eisenhower the meeting did not go well and was marked hush hush and a national security threat... I'm not going to say much more about this but look into some research pointed toward the Majestic 12 and only them if you really want true facts, you wont find much but there is some Info out there
Ninja...
Hi TBN, How come you know so much? From whom are you receiving your information? I had an out of the body experience where I found myself onboard an Alien Craft and I appeared to be talking with two 'Aliens' who looked just like us but had long hair and were wearing light grey uniforms. We were conversing telepathically I'm just wondering if my mind was being manipulated by the 'Greys'? Because I read that this is what they are able to do so that you don't freak out, by seeing them as they actually look. It might have been in a book written by Whitney Schreiber? who I beleve was abducted many times.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 11, 2015 16:28:14 GMT
Hi TBN, I remember reading about the Majesti Twelve, but can't remember how I came by that information. Do you have a link so that I can refresh my memory?
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Post by tbn on Sept 12, 2015 20:42:55 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 14, 2015 11:42:17 GMT
Hi TBN, How come you know so much? From whom are you receiving your information? You Wouldn't Believe Me If I Could Tell You... Your experience sounds valid. No but start here... Government Information Security Act of 1999 : report of the Committee on Governmental Affairs, United States Senate, to accompany S. 1993, to reform government ... www.worldcat.org/title/government-information-security-act-of-1999-report-of-the-committee- on-governmental-affairs-united-states-senate-to-accompany-s-1993-to-reform-government-information-security-by-strengthening-information-security-practices-throughout-the-federal-government/oclc/44271545&referer=brief_results Hi TBN, I have an open mind and believe that There are strange things happening in this world so why wouldn't I not believe what you have to say. Have you had a close encounter? I'm very interested.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 15:15:22 GMT
The idea of the Majestic 12 has about as much credibility as the “Report from Iron Mountain” that is, no credibility at all.
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Post by Big Lin on Sept 25, 2015 22:08:03 GMT
Even William Moore (who first 'broke' the 'story' of the Maj 12 admitted that the documents he 'saw' - some UFOlogists believe Moore himself faked the documents - were 'forged' but claims that they were 'copies' of 'genuine original documents.'
Basically the UFO phenomenon is complex and one of the biggest problems is that too many people tend to be either dogmatic deniers or gullible believers.
If you study things like for instance the Lakenheath-Bentwaters case in 1956 (which even the Condon Report described as 'baffling') you see that the mental gymnastics of, say, Phillip Klass are as crazy as the people who believe they've been abducted by aliens.
The whole point about UFOs is that they stand for 'unidentified' flying objects.
Read some real researchers like Paul Devereux, Jacques Vallee, Jenny Randles, Peter Warrington and others and it will give both sceptics and believers cause for reflection.
Yes, there are genuine mysteries; possibly there may be some kind of possibility of extraterrestrial connection.
But read with a cautious and open mind rather than an attitude of naive credulity or dogmatic doubt.
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Post by blc on Sept 26, 2015 1:23:31 GMT
It is true that sometimes there are things or unidentified things that are mysterious. Back in the 90's I belonged to a site that did Remote Viewing, they also discussed Out of Body experiences and other metaphysical or phenomenon. A lot of people trusted them, but at about the time of Hale Bopp they showed pictures saying there was a UFO hiding behind the comet.
As it turned out they doctored images and faked the whole thing. The astronomer that actually took the images of the comet was pissed. I figured out which astronomer it had to be and emailed him and he told me that people were accusing him of having doctored the images, which is why he was pissed.
Those that perpetrate hoaxes don't realize that they often hurt others in the process.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 26, 2015 15:13:33 GMT
It is true that sometimes there are things or unidentified things that are mysterious. Back in the 90's I belonged to a site that did Remote Viewing, they also discussed Out of Body experiences and other metaphysical or phenomenon. A lot of people trusted them, but at about the time of Hale Bopp they showed pictures saying there was a UFO hiding behind the comet. As it turned out they doctored images and faked the whole thing. The astronomer that actually took the images of the comet was pissed. I figured out which astronomer it had to be and emailed him and he told me that people were accusing him of having doctored the images, which is why he was pissed. Those that perpetrate hoaxes don't realize that they often hurt others in the process. Hi BLC, I agree that people who play hoaxes about something as serious as that, are definitely ruining it for the people who really want to know the truth. The same was done with the diagrams carved out in the corn and wheat crops. We thought it was done by Aliens and then some people said that they had done it. They were very intricate and beautiful. This has now put everything into the questionable category, so that you don't know what to believe. As for Remote Viewing, which took place during WW2, I am of the belief that Soul Travel and Remote Viewing are one and the same. In Soul Travel, It is just as if you are a pair of eyes observing everything that is taking place. It is really amazing. Did you have any remote viewing experiences?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 26, 2015 16:06:14 GMT
Even William Moore (who first 'broke' the 'story' of the Maj 12 admitted that the documents he 'saw' - some UFOlogists believe Moore himself faked the documents - were 'forged' but claims that they were 'copies' of 'genuine original documents.' Basically the UFO phenomenon is complex and one of the biggest problems is that too many people tend to be either dogmatic deniers or gullible believers. If you study things like for instance the Lakenheath-Bentwaters case in 1956 (which even the Condon Report described as 'baffling') you see that the mental gymnastics of, say, Phillip Klass are as crazy as the people who believe they've been abducted by aliens. The whole point about UFOs is that they stand for 'unidentified' flying objects. Read some real researchers like Paul Devereux, Jacques Vallee, Jenny Randles, Peter Warrington and others and it will give both sceptics and believers cause for reflection. Yes, there are genuine mysteries; possibly there may be some kind of possibility of extraterrestrial connection. But read with a cautious and open mind rather than an attitude of naive credulity or dogmatic doubt. There you go again Big Lin advising people how they should think. You may think that in totally believing what I believe I am a gullible fool and when I stress that belief, then I'm being dogmatic. I can't win by the looks of it. Whatever I believe ofcourse, is my business. Just because some sightings are known as UFO's that doesn't mean to say that all of them are. What I saw was definitely an Alien craft. I saw it during the day and my eyes don't deceive me. The round shining craft, which had been seen following a train the night before, was quite clear. It was evidently observing a plane that had passed overhead. As soon as the plane went on it's way I was able to see the craft for a few more minutes, then it turned on it's side and just disappeared. There are many things happening in this Universe and in this world that we cannot explain as yet, but that doesn't mean to say that we only imagined that they happened. I do believe that Alien craft are a reality and have been here from way back in time. I also believe in the various supernatural incidents that take place.
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Post by Big Lin on Sept 26, 2015 16:16:32 GMT
Even William Moore (who first 'broke' the 'story' of the Maj 12 admitted that the documents he 'saw' - some UFOlogists believe Moore himself faked the documents - were 'forged' but claims that they were 'copies' of 'genuine original documents.' Basically the UFO phenomenon is complex and one of the biggest problems is that too many people tend to be either dogmatic deniers or gullible believers. If you study things like for instance the Lakenheath-Bentwaters case in 1956 (which even the Condon Report described as 'baffling') you see that the mental gymnastics of, say, Phillip Klass are as crazy as the people who believe they've been abducted by aliens. The whole point about UFOs is that they stand for 'unidentified' flying objects. Read some real researchers like Paul Devereux, Jacques Vallee, Jenny Randles, Peter Warrington and others and it will give both sceptics and believers cause for reflection. Yes, there are genuine mysteries; possibly there may be some kind of possibility of extraterrestrial connection. But read with a cautious and open mind rather than an attitude of naive credulity or dogmatic doubt. There you go again Big Lin advising people how they should think. You may think that in totally believing what I believe I am a gullible fool and when I stress that belief, than I'm being dogmatic. I can't win by the looks of it. Whatever I believe ofcourse, is my business. Just because some sightings are known as UFO's that doesn't mean to say that all of them are. What I saw was definitely an Alien craft. I saw it during the day and my eyes don't deceive me. The round shining craft, which had been seen following a train the night before, was quite clear. It was evidently observing a plane that had passed overhead. As soon as the plane went on it's way I was able to see the craft for a few more minutes, then it turns on it's side and just disappeared. There are many things happening in this Universe and in this world that we cannot explain as yet, but that doesn't mean to say that we only imagined that they happened. I do believe that Alien craft are a reality and have been here from way back in time. I also believe in the various supernatural incidents thattake place. Why are you assuming I'm directing my comments at you? I was speaking generally and not referring to you at all. Now let's leave the paranoia aside and consider things a bit more dispassionately. 1 UFO means 'unidentified' flying object. That means 'unidentified' and therefore it could be all kinds of unknown things. The extraterrestrial explanation is only ONE of the possible explanations for it. 2 I've read and researched a lot on UFOs and the paranormal as well as knowing quite a few people who are experts in the field that I've discussed it with. 3 Mike and I have seen a UFO ourselves so we're not talking out of ignorance. 4 Why do you assume that unknown or unexplained or unidentified means imaginary? You're putting words and ideas into my mouth that I never said or would say. 5 Why not be more specific? 'Various supernatural incidents that take place?' What exactly do you mean? Now don't forget I've been born and raised in a culture where the paranormal is part of our everyday life. We know more about the 'supernatural' than most parapsychologists because it's a reality for us. And at least you're posting on the right thread now!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 26, 2015 16:48:15 GMT
Hi Big Lin, If you are speaking generally then that means you are speaking to anyone who is viewing your post, which happens to be me.I used the word imagine in regard to the fact that you imagine that you are seeing a Alien Craft and it turns out to be something else, which ofcourse is a UFO In my sighting I was definitely seeing an Alien Craft so it was identifiable. And therefore not a UFO.
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Post by Big Lin on Sept 26, 2015 20:20:15 GMT
Hi Big Lin, If you are speaking generally than that means you are speaking to anyone who is viewing your post, which happens to be me.I used the word imagine in regard to the fact that you imagine that you are seeing a Alien Craft and it turns out to be something else, which ofcourse is a UFO In my sighting I was definitely seeing an Alien Craft so it was identifiable. And therfore not a UFO. No, Scottish Lassie, nearly all the posts I make are general ones. You adopted a defensive tone and suggested that I was directing my post straight at you. As that wasn't the case (while in this one it IS) you were wrong. Now words are precious things but sadly often have more than one meaning. To 'imagine' may mean to visualise creatively, to fancy, or to be mistaken as to what exactly was perceived. Now you can't prove that what you saw was an 'alien craft.' It was a UFO but because you 'identified' it in your mind that means that your belief system took over. Do you realise that there are actually 25 different explanations on the UFO phenomenon? (I'll dig them out and post them tomorrow) The ET explanation is only one and just because the media in particular emphasises that doesn't mean it's true. Are you aware for instance that UFO activity almost invariably happens along geological fault lines? Are you aware that there are eye-witness accounts of (for example) the Amber Gambler and similar phenomena in which a clearly natural gas is witnessed escaping from hills and rocks and (in mid-air) turning itself into the generally reported shape of a UFO? Are you aware that actually there are many more shapes of UFO reported than the ones the media tend to focus on? This is a subject where I know a lot and I've met a lot of people who know far more than me. NO single explanation covers all the facts. If you like I can point you to some good sources on the subject.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 26, 2015 23:34:56 GMT
Hi Big Lin, If you are speaking generally than that means you are speaking to anyone who is viewing your post, which happens to be me.I used the word imagine in regard to the fact that you imagine that you are seeing a Alien Craft and it turns out to be something else, which ofcourse is a UFO In my sighting I was definitely seeing an Alien Craft so it was identifiable. And therfore not a UFO. No, Scottish Lassie, nearly all the posts I make are general ones. You adopted a defensive tone and suggested that I was directing my post straight at you. As that wasn't the case (while in this one it IS) you were wrong. Now words are precious things but sadly often have more than one meaning. To 'imagine' may mean to visualise creatively, to fancy, or to be mistaken as to what exactly was perceived. Now you can't prove that what you saw was an 'alien craft.' It was a UFO but because you 'identified' it in your mind that means that your belief system took over. Do you realise that there are actually 25 different explanations on the UFO phenomenon? (I'll dig them out and post them tomorrow) The ET explanation is only one and just because the media in particular emphasises that doesn't mean it's true. Are you aware for instance that UFO activity almost invariably happens along geological fault lines? Are you aware that there are eye-witness accounts of (for example) the Amber Gambler and similar phenomena in which a clearly natural gas is witnessed escaping from hills and rocks and (in mid-air) turning itself into the generally reported shape of a UFO? Are you aware that actually there are many more shapes of UFO reported than the ones the media tend to focus on? This is a subject where I know a lot and I've met a lot of people who know far more than me. NO single explanation covers all the facts. If you like I can point you to some good sources on the subject. Hi Big Lin, If I were to tell you that I have been onboard an Alien craft on two occasions that I am sure of, and believe me, they are solid. They come from another dimension which you ofcourse do not believe exists at this moment in time. The sighting that was seen during the day was therefore identifiable as an Alien craft. I reiterate that as administrator you are speaking to everyone of your members, which means you are speaking to me, whether you name me personally or not. I therefore reply to your post as if you had named me. Either way, you ARE addressing me, as far as I am concerned. You have your viewpoint and I have mine, so let's leave it at that. STILL FRIENDS?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Sept 27, 2015 0:38:41 GMT
It is true that sometimes there are things or unidentified things that are mysterious. Back in the 90's I belonged to a site that did Remote Viewing, they also discussed Out of Body experiences and other metaphysical or phenomenon. A lot of people trusted them, but at about the time of Hale Bopp they showed pictures saying there was a UFO hiding behind the comet. As it turned out they doctored images and faked the whole thing. The astronomer that actually took the images of the comet was pissed. I figured out which astronomer it had to be and emailed him and he told me that people were accusing him of having doctored the images, which is why he was pissed. Those that perpetrate hoaxes don't realize that they often hurt others in the process. Hi BLC, In Australian slang, when a person is pissed, it means that they are drunk. When they are annoyed, the term is ' pissed off.' I take it then that he was annoyed rather than drunk?
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