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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 25, 2019 0:23:56 GMT
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Post by Big Lin on Jul 25, 2019 20:51:19 GMT
Frankly, Das, the Guardian is a joke. On almost any news item you name they suppress facts they don't like and even invent things that support their agenda.
In the old days the Guardian was a middle of the road and respected newspaper.
It's long since become a vehicle for the far left.
I rarely even bother to read it unless some particularly weird nonsense comes out of its mouth.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jul 26, 2019 4:48:23 GMT
Frankly, Das, the Guardian is a joke. On almost any news item you name they suppress facts they don't like and even invent things that support their agenda. In the old days the Guardian was a middle of the road and respected newspaper. It's long since become a vehicle for the far left. I rarely even bother to read it unless some particularly weird nonsense comes out of its mouth. How can you be sure of anything when the chips are down? We only have our senses to steer us in the right direction, TV, and the newspapers. So how do you personally believe anything?
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Post by Big Lin on Jul 26, 2019 22:36:50 GMT
Frankly, Das, the Guardian is a joke. On almost any news item you name they suppress facts they don't like and even invent things that support their agenda. In the old days the Guardian was a middle of the road and respected newspaper. It's long since become a vehicle for the far left. I rarely even bother to read it unless some particularly weird nonsense comes out of its mouth. How can you be sure of anything when the chips are down? We only have our senses to steer us in the right direction, TV, and the newspapers. So how do you personally believe anything? Well, leaving aside the question of how reliable the senses are (that's more Mike's department than mine), I've seen many cases when the Guardian has given completely fictitious accounts of events where I've actually BEEN there and KNOW they're lying. And you know perfectly well that two people (let alone millions) will hardly ever give the same account of something. But there's all the difference in the world between misperceptions and deliberate lying. And the Guardian is abundantly guilty of that (as are every media outlet I know.)
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jul 28, 2019 4:37:30 GMT
How can you be sure of anything when the chips are down? We only have our senses to steer us in the right direction, TV, and the newspapers. So how do you personally believe anything? Well, leaving aside the question of how reliable the senses are (that's more Mike's department than mine), I've seen many cases when the Guardian has given completely fictitious accounts of events where I've actually BEEN there and KNOW they're lying. And you know perfectly well that two people (let alone millions) will hardly ever give the same account of something. But there's all the difference in the world between misperceptions and deliberate lying. And the Guardian is abundantly guilty of that (as are every media outlet I know.) Maybe it is not so much that they are deliberately lying, but as you and Mike have both said that our senses are responsible for the apparent differences.
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Post by kronks on Jul 29, 2019 3:55:46 GMT
The Guardian is definitely a joke, no wonder their comment section is nearly always closed.
It is basically a loony left rag.
They believe if a man says he is a woman he is a woman.
Unfortunately the left is hijacked by such loonies making the unelectable giving the Tories free reign.
They need to be kicked out of the labour party, they are crackpots.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jul 31, 2019 6:18:15 GMT
The Guardian is definitely a joke, no wonder their comment section is nearly always closed. It is basically a loony left rag. They believe if a man says he is a woman he is a woman. Unfortunately the left is hijacked by such loonies making the unelectable giving the Tories free reign. They need to be kicked out of the labour party, they are crackpots. That is certainly not the best. Nothing but the truth should be printed as we need to know what is actually happening in the world.
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Post by kronks on Aug 10, 2019 21:29:04 GMT
The Guardian is definitely a joke, no wonder their comment section is nearly always closed. It is basically a loony left rag. They believe if a man says he is a woman he is a woman. Unfortunately the left is hijacked by such loonies making the unelectable giving the Tories free reign. They need to be kicked out of the labour party, they are crackpots. That is certainly not the best. Nothing but the truth should be printed as we need to know what is actually happening in the world.
It is not so much the truth, rather their crazy ideas on various issues, crazy ideas, for example they support feminism and transgenders which are polar opposite views. Feminists believe men and women are the same, they don't really believe in gender but transgenders very much believe in gender and that you can pretty much choose your gender.
The reality is there are two genders (bar a tiny number of intersex people) and you can't chance your gender.
So they support two opposing views both of which are wrong! (and ignore reality).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 21:37:26 GMT
That is certainly not the best. Nothing but the truth should be printed as we need to know what is actually happening in the world. It is not so much the truth, rather their crazy ideas on various issues, crazy ideas, for example they support feminism and transgenders which are polar opposite views. Feminists believe men and women are the same, they don't really believe in gender but transgenders very much believe in gender and that you can pretty much choose your gender. The reality is there are two genders (bar a tiny number of intersex people) and you can't chance your gender. So they support two opposing views both of which are wrong! (and ignore reality).
Surely feminists don’t think we are the same just equal , there is a big difference.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 11, 2019 5:19:08 GMT
That is certainly not the best. Nothing but the truth should be printed as we need to know what is actually happening in the world.
It is not so much the truth, rather their crazy ideas on various issues, crazy ideas, for example they support feminism and transgenders which are polar opposite views. Feminists believe men and women are the same, they don't really believe in gender but transgenders very much believe in gender and that you can pretty much choose your gender.
The reality is there are two genders (bar a tiny number of intersex people) and you can't change your gender.
So they support two opposing views both of which are wrong! (and ignore reality).
strange to say, I was just watching the news and it is now the law that parents can choose the sex of any child that they want to conceive.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 11, 2019 9:18:36 GMT
It is not so much the truth, rather their crazy ideas on various issues, crazy ideas, for example they support feminism and transgenders which are polar opposite views. Feminists believe men and women are the same, they don't really believe in gender but transgenders very much believe in gender and that you can pretty much choose your gender. The reality is there are two genders (bar a tiny number of intersex people) and you can't chance your gender. So they support two opposing views both of which are wrong! (and ignore reality).
Surely feminists don’t think we are the same just equal , there is a big difference. This has mainly always been a man's world. In marriage he becomes the man of the house whilst his wife stays home to bear the children that are born. Apparently nowadays some people want to choose their gender rather than just accept what their sexual organ denotes that they are, a male or a female.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 11, 2019 9:37:16 GMT
That is certainly not the best. Nothing but the truth should be printed as we need to know what is actually happening in the world.
It is not so much the truth, rather their crazy ideas on various issues, crazy ideas, for example they support feminism and transgenders which are polar opposite views. Feminists believe men and women are the same, they don't really believe in gender but transgenders very much believe in gender and that you can pretty much choose your gender.
The reality is there are two genders (bar a tiny number of intersex people) and you can't change your gender.
So they support two opposing views both of which are wrong! (and ignore reality).
The whole point is that nowadays a person can change their gender. Quite a few people have had an operation to completely be the gender that they have chosen. They have their eggcells and sperm saved, to be used at a later date. That way, they can still pass on their DNA.
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Post by kronks on Aug 12, 2019 5:28:45 GMT
It is not so much the truth, rather their crazy ideas on various issues, crazy ideas, for example they support feminism and transgenders which are polar opposite views. Feminists believe men and women are the same, they don't really believe in gender but transgenders very much believe in gender and that you can pretty much choose your gender. The reality is there are two genders (bar a tiny number of intersex people) and you can't chance your gender. So they support two opposing views both of which are wrong! (and ignore reality).
Surely feminists don’t think we are the same just equal , there is a big difference.
Well they tend to want equal outcomes but only in areas where men fair better than women, in areas when men have worse outcomes than women they have no interesting equality, they don't want equal numbers of women homeless or in prison or in top jobs, or equal life expectancy, or indeed in good jobs of any type, so it is not really equality, it is actually more about supremacy when you take a balanced view.
And of course men and women are not equal if they were there would not be two different words would there.
The whole equality thing is basically nuts, what is required is fair and reasonable treatment. "Equality" does not give that really.
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Post by kronks on Aug 12, 2019 5:33:02 GMT
Surely feminists don’t think we are the same just equal , there is a big difference. This has mainly always been a man's world. In marriage he becomes the man of the house whilst his wife stays home to bear the children that are born. Apparently nowadays some people want to choose their gender rather than just accept what their sexual organ denotes that they are, a male or a female.
I don't think it has always been a man's world at all.
If it was they would not be getting slaughtered in war etc... and have the most dangerous jobs and short life expectancy.
And whilst the man may be nominally the man of the house in reality it is often the women who calls most of the the shots.
Men can't bear children so if women didn't the species would die out.
That is another thing, men and women will not be equal until men can bear children!
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Post by kronks on Aug 12, 2019 5:35:29 GMT
It is not so much the truth, rather their crazy ideas on various issues, crazy ideas, for example they support feminism and transgenders which are polar opposite views. Feminists believe men and women are the same, they don't really believe in gender but transgenders very much believe in gender and that you can pretty much choose your gender.
The reality is there are two genders (bar a tiny number of intersex people) and you can't change your gender.
So they support two opposing views both of which are wrong! (and ignore reality).
The whole point is that nowadays a person can change their gender. Quite a few people have had an operation to completely be the gender that they have chosen. They have their eggcells and sperm saved, to be used at a later date. That way, they can still pass on their DNA.
They can't really change their gender, men will never be able to bear children. Having eggs and sperm saved does not really change your gender.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 12:25:49 GMT
The whole point is that nowadays a person can change their gender. Quite a few people have had an operation to completely be the gender that they have chosen. They have their eggcells and sperm saved, to be used at a later date. That way, they can still pass on their DNA. They can't really change their gender, men will never be able to bear children. Having eggs and sperm saved does not really change your gender.
Agreed , a man can never be woman unless they have periods and a womb , which they cannot
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Post by kronks on Aug 13, 2019 17:10:32 GMT
They can't really change their gender, men will never be able to bear children. Having eggs and sperm saved does not really change your gender.
Agreed , a man can never be woman unless they have periods and a womb , which they cannot
Indeed, nice to see you on the forums by the way Gibby, not seen you for a while!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 21:38:18 GMT
Agreed , a man can never be woman unless they have periods and a womb , which they cannot Indeed, nice to see you on the forums by the way Gibby, not seen you for a while!
Nice to see you too , hope everything is going good in your world
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 15, 2019 1:24:27 GMT
The Guardian is definitely a joke, no wonder their comment section is nearly always closed. It is basically a loony left rag. They believe if a man says he is a woman he is a woman. Unfortunately the left is hijacked by such loonies making the unelectable giving the Tories free reign. They need to be kicked out of the labour party, they are crackpots. So true Kronks. The left's way of determining a person's sex: "Hey Chelsea, what sex are you?" The rights way of determing a person's sex; "Hey Chelsea, drop your underwear. I want to see what sex you are."
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 18, 2019 13:54:33 GMT
This has mainly always been a man's world. In marriage he becomes the man of the house whilst his wife stays home to bear the children that are born. Apparently nowadays some people want to choose their gender rather than just accept what their sexual organ denotes that they are, a male or a female.
I don't think it has always been a man's world at all.
If it was they would not be getting slaughtered in war etc... and have the most dangerous jobs and short life expectancy.
And whilst the man may be nominally the man of the house in reality it is often the women who calls most of the the shots.
Men can't bear children so if women didn't the species would die out.
That is another thing, men and women will not be equal until men can bear children!
In olden times it was very obvious that it was a man's world as they raided other tribes to get woman, women didn't have a say. Certainly not in anything that had to do with sex. Nowadays, woman have more of a say in marriage as she knows what is going on in the home because of cooking and cleaning and looking after the children. The husband is always in charge of the pursestrings, or did you hand over your whole pay packet to your wife?
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