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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 5:35:25 GMT
Well seems like the majority of Americans didn't see the redeeming qualities you did lol "sophisticated knowledge " didn't count for Jack shit Hi Gibby, The voting was going Hillary's way until the second lot of emails were made public, that is when it started to go Trumps way, there was no incriminating evidence to be found, but it ruined Hillary's chances of winning. The people responsible, owned up to doing it deliberately. Even so, she had the popular vote. Which means that more people voted for her to win. It stinks.!!! There is no doubt about that, which is why the Democrat voters are protesting. If I was an American, I would be protesting along with the others. For sure.!!! i dont believe that would have made a whole lot of difference to people who were genuinely going to vote for her, they and the whole world already knew about her dodgy emails, the system is what it is i am sure you wouldnt have been complaining about it if your candidate had of won.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 5:37:02 GMT
Maybe you haven't been listening to all the crap that he says. Hi Ariel, the Party that wins the popular vote (maximum) should be the Party that wins.!!! When that is in place, perhaps more people will decide to vote. In Australia voting is compulsory. as you know we don't have that system here, look at UKIP they got over 4 million votes but that under our system equated to only 1 MP in parliament, hardly representative.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 5:38:35 GMT
Lol you haven't given him a chance he isn't even in office until January ! Maybe you haven't been listening to all the crap that he says. how about #heisyourpresident
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Post by ariel on Nov 13, 2016 6:05:36 GMT
Maybe you haven't been listening to all the crap that he says. Hi Ariel, the Party that wins the popular vote (maximum) should be the Party that wins.!!! When that is in place, perhaps more people will decide to vote. In Australia voting is compulsory. I have heard that, Lassie. I don't think that compulsory voting is the way to go here, but I am appalled at how many people don't vote. I don't know why voter turnout is so low. Disinterest? Laziness?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Nov 13, 2016 6:15:37 GMT
Hi Ariel, the Party that wins the popular vote (maximum) should be the Party that wins.!!! When that is in place, perhaps more people will decide to vote. In Australia voting is compulsory. as you know we don't have that system here, look at UKIP they got over 4 million votes but that under our system equated to only 1 MP in parliament, hardly representative. Hi Gibby, I personally believe that the greatest amount of votes for a certain Party should count for that Party winning the Election.
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Post by ariel on Nov 13, 2016 6:29:12 GMT
Hi Gibby, The voting was going Hillary's way until the second lot of emails were made public, that is when it started to go Trumps way, there was no incriminating evidence to be found, but it ruined Hillary's chances of winning. The people responsible, owned up to doing it deliberately. Even so, she had the popular vote. Which means that more people voted for her to win. It stinks.!!! There is no doubt about that, which is why the Democrat voters are protesting. If I was an American, I would be protesting along with the others. For sure.!!! i dont believe that would have made a whole lot of difference to people who were genuinely going to vote for her, they and the whole world already knew about her dodgy emails, the system is what it is i am sure you wouldnt have been complaining about it if your candidate had of won. My candidate was Bernie Sanders. I worked my heart out for him, but he didn't win. I'm not a big Clinton fan. The difference is that Hillary Clinton is sane while Trump is completely unqualified; a predator, a fraud.
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Post by ariel on Nov 13, 2016 6:50:51 GMT
as you know we don't have that system here, look at UKIP they got over 4 million votes but that under our system equated to only 1 MP in parliament, hardly representative. Hi Gibby, I personally believe that the greatest amount of votes for a certain Party should count for that Party winning the Election. It's an old, antiquated system that had to do with slave states having the same amount of power as non-slave states. When this was constructed, there were only 13 colony-states, and in the South half of the population (or more ) were slaves, and couldn't vote.
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Post by ariel on Nov 13, 2016 7:04:34 GMT
So with all the protesting, you are involved in, I take it, you do not hold down a job?! OH how wonderful yet MORE laziness for the tax payers to support! Try doing 8 hours of hard labor, and you won't have the energy to participate in such shenanigans! Trump is our elected president, put on your big girl panties and get over it! You should be very careful with what you write. I work (run a human rights organization) and go to university. What do you do?
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Post by Big Lin on Nov 13, 2016 14:32:28 GMT
I point out again - I've had to edit a post because of comments made about another forum.
That's not going to be tolerated.
If you've got a beef about mine then it's fine to raise it on here - if you have problems with other boards that has nothing to do with us.
Take it up with the owner of the other forum and don't bitch about it on here, please.
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Post by Big Lin on Nov 13, 2016 14:33:45 GMT
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Post by ariel on Nov 13, 2016 22:36:44 GMT
You would get your point across better if you at least paraphrased.
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Post by blc on Nov 13, 2016 23:23:17 GMT
In the meantime you've got 4 years of Trump whether you like it or not. If this guy starts rattling his sabre, I'm leaving. He can easily be impeached anyway. All he does is lie, and once he is sworn in he is going to have a rough go of it. Politicians lie, all of them, and Hillary was the biggest, most prolific liar of all, giving Obama a run for the title. All presidents also, have a tough go after being sworn in. It is by its nature a tough job.
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Post by blc on Nov 13, 2016 23:44:53 GMT
The Founding Fathers didn't want one large state with a large population dictating to the other states. The electoral college save us from that bitch and I'm glad it did. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. If you read the article they only count all the ballots on states where the results are tight. I find it laughable that we put up with Obama for 8 years and you sore losers whine and become crybullies. Where is all that tolerance? You can't even give him a chance. All he wants to do is enforce our immigration laws and secure the border. The president's duty first and foremost is to the citizens of the USA not the fricking world. I hope he reverses every single EO that Obama foisted on the country by fiat. The smaller states are not over represented, for crying out loud, Rhode Island gets 4. So does New Hampshire and Maine gets 3 and you want to dilute their voice even more. Pathetic. You clearly don't understand the purpose of the electoral college. It's outdated. I understand it a lot more than you do. You are for the tyranny of a few states (California or New York) over the other states. The electoral college keeps the playing field level, for the most part. Large states like Wyoming only gets 3 Montana and North Dakota more large states that only get 3. It isn't outdated. Just because an amendment dates back to the 1700's doesn't make it outdated. The electoral college initially protected slaves states from being dictated to by the non slave states. At that time slaves didn't vote and so those states had smaller voting populations, not unlike the smaller populations of large states like Wyoming, Colorado, the Dakotas etc. The US is a republic, not a democracy. Remember the pledge of allegiance? And to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands... probably why the democrats have such angst for it. The popular vote and the EC is another type of checks and balances that the founders implemented. Its laid out in the Constitution and not likely to be changed anytime soon.
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Post by blc on Nov 14, 2016 0:03:28 GMT
Hi Ariel, the Party that wins the popular vote (maximum) should be the Party that wins.!!! When that is in place, perhaps more people will decide to vote. In Australia voting is compulsory. I have heard that, Lassie. I don't think that compulsory voting is the way to go here, but I am appalled at how many people don't vote. I don't know why voter turnout is so low. Disinterest? Laziness? Voter turnout was high for Republicans. It was low in certain areas for the dems and that is why Clinton lost. People she relied on were not motivated. She NEVER even campaigned in Wisconsin, which is why it flipped from a blue state to a red state and Trump won. So whose fault was that? Certainly not Trump's or his supporters. Detroit didn't come out for her either. She let her constituency down and they didn't go vote. PERIOD. Trump got more of the BLACK and LATINO vote than Romney, so much for him being racist. Most of the people protesting/rioting are non white so shall we call them racists? I mean hey, if whites protested and rioted when Obama won you can bet your ass they would be called racists. The double standard on the left is on full display. People expected the stupid, racist, Trump supporters to riot when Clinton won, but SURPRISE... it isn't the Trump supporters that are stupid or racist its the dems, and the world can see the proof of that because whites didn't riot when Obama won. They weren't happy but they didn't riot and destroy the property of others. Are those rioters we see on tv over the past few days the oh so touted college educated dems? (cough) Or are a large portion of them the result of the ads on craigslist paying $15 and hour or $1,500 per month for protestors, by Soros?
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Post by blc on Nov 14, 2016 0:15:13 GMT
Why is it that so many of these whiners and malcontents always say they are moving to Canada and never say they are moving to Mexico?
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Post by ariel on Nov 14, 2016 1:22:16 GMT
I have heard that, Lassie. I don't think that compulsory voting is the way to go here, but I am appalled at how many people don't vote. I don't know why voter turnout is so low. Disinterest? Laziness? Voter turnout was high for Republicans. It was low in certain areas for the dems and that is why Clinton lost. People she relied on were not motivated. She NEVER even campaigned in Wisconsin, which is why it flipped from a blue state to a red state and Trump won. So whose fault was that? Certainly not Trump's or his supporters. Detroit didn't come out for her either. She let her constituency down and they didn't go vote. PERIOD. Trump got more of the BLACK and LATINO vote than Romney, so much for him being racist. Most of the people protesting/rioting are non white so shall we call them racists? I mean hey, if whites protested and rioted when Obama won you can bet your ass they would be called racists. The double standard on the left is on full display. People expected the stupid, racist, Trump supporters to riot when Clinton won, but SURPRISE... it isn't the Trump supporters that are stupid or racist its the dems, and the world can see the proof of that because whites didn't riot when Obama won. They weren't happy but they didn't riot and destroy the property of others. Are those rioters we see on tv over the past few days the oh so touted college educated dems? (cough) Or are a large portion of them the result of the ads on craigslist paying $15 and hour or $1,500 per month for protestors, by Soros? Nobody is being paid in NYC. The turnout is organic and remarkable. Also, if President Obama was the disgusting human being that Donald Trump is, you'd better believe that we would be out there protesting.
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Post by ariel on Nov 14, 2016 1:31:06 GMT
You clearly don't understand the purpose of the electoral college. It's outdated. I understand it a lot more than you do. You are for the tyranny of a few states (California or New York) over the other states. The electoral college keeps the playing field level, for the most part. Large states like Wyoming only gets 3 Montana and North Dakota more large states that only get 3. It isn't outdated. Just because an amendment dates back to the 1700's doesn't make it outdated. The electoral college initially protected slaves states from being dictated to by the non slave slave states. At that time slaves didn't vote and so those states had smaller voting populations, not unlike the smaller populations of large states like Wyoming, Colorado, the Dakotas etc. The US is a republic, not a democracy. Remember the pledge of allegiance? And to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands... probably why the democrats have such angst for it. The popular vote and the EC is another type of checks and balances that the founders implemented. Its laid out in the Constitution and not likely to be changed anytime soon. You just demonstrated that you know nothing about. It was originally designed to give parity to slave states to prevent the South from succeeding. Now, it is irrelevant. California and New York, as well as several other cosmopolitan centers, have far larger population ratios and are thus, under-represented.
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Post by ariel on Nov 14, 2016 1:32:48 GMT
Obama is probably one of the most decent, honest people to have ever served as President.
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Post by kronks on Nov 14, 2016 1:50:30 GMT
When are they gonna call Michigan so I can get paid out? What is the hold up there? The way things are going there they will still be counting the votes when the next election starts!! Not hanging chads again I hope?
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Post by ladydi on Nov 14, 2016 2:33:16 GMT
So with all the protesting, you are involved in, I take it, you do not hold down a job?! OH how wonderful yet MORE laziness for the tax payers to support! Try doing 8 hours of hard labor, and you won't have the energy to participate in such shenanigans! Trump is our elected president, put on your big girl panties and get over it! You should be very careful with what you write. I work (run a human rights organization) and go to university. What do you do? I have a right to my opinion the same as you. My job? I save lives....... We're done here!
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