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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 10, 2015 20:54:53 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 10, 2015 21:57:22 GMT
Hi Anna, Anything is possible, Paul Twitchel was driving his car very fast once and when turning a corner lost control.it was about to turn over and crash, when a huge arm came out of the sky and set the car upright preventing a crash.
The occupants of the cars following behind, saw this take place, so were witnesses to this incident. So maybe we are not as big as we think we are compared to what else is out there.
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Post by Big Lin on Aug 10, 2015 21:59:25 GMT
So he was rescued by a game-playing geek?  |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 11, 2015 1:26:21 GMT
So he was rescued by a game-playing geek? Anything is possible Biglin, but I choose to think that it was God's doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 1:53:24 GMT
Hi Anna, Anything is possible, Paul Twitchel was driving his car very fast once and when turning a corner lost control.it was about to turn over and crash, when a huge arm came out of the sky and set the car upright preventing a crash. The occupants of the cars following behind, saw this take place, so were witnesses to this incident. So maybe we are not as big as we think we are compared to what else is out there. Thank you Scottish Lassie. I'm sorry but that is really funny. I'm guessing that you are relating this story 'tongue in cheek' and that you don't really believe that it happened. |
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Post by kronks on Aug 11, 2015 2:19:40 GMT
So he was rescued by a game-playing geek? Good job I was not at the controls otherwise he would have been a gonna. I'm so useless at computer games that I'd probably get the blame for Princess Diana!! ll |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 11, 2015 7:31:03 GMT
Hi Anna, Anything is possible, Paul Twitchel was driving his car very fast once and when turning a corner lost control.it was about to turn over and crash, when a huge arm came out of the sky and set the car upright preventing a crash. The occupants of the cars following behind, saw this take place, so were witnesses to this incident. So maybe we are not as big as we think we are compared to what else is out there. Thank you Scottish Lassie. I'm sorry but that is really funny. I'm guessing that you are relating this story 'tongue in cheek' and that you don't really believe that it happened. Hi Men an tol, Ofcourse it happened, Paul Twitchell was chosen to be the founder of ECKANKAR by the Holy Spirit. In other words, he was born into this world especially to bring ECKANKAR to the world. He was God's messenger. Miracles are happening all the time in ECKANKAR. There are amazing stories by ordinary people attributed to the different Masters thoughout the ages, they are certainly worth a read if you are interested These people met the Masters long before they became members of ECKANKAR. I had out of the body experiences and met 3 or 4 Masters long before I became a member. It is the Holy Spirit who leads you step by step to find ECKANKAR. You no doubt think it is all hogwash, but we know it isn't. There are amazing things happening all the time. Everyone calls the shots as to what they choose to believe. And we are each responsible for the things that we do in life. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 21:14:29 GMT
Thank you Scottish Lassie. I'm sorry but that is really funny. I'm guessing that you are relating this story 'tongue in cheek' and that you don't really believe that it happened. Hi Men an tol, Ofcourse it happened, Paul Twitchell was chosen to be the founder of ECKANKAR by the Holy Spirit. In other words, he was born into this world especially to bring ECKANKAR to the world. He was God's messenger. Miracles are happening all the time in ECKANKAR. There are amazing stories by ordinary people attributed to the different Masters thoughout the ages, they are certainly worth a read if you are interested These people met the Masters long before they became members of ECKANKAR. I had out of the body experiences and met 3 or 4 Masters long before I became a member. It is the Holy Spirit who leads you step by step to find ECKANKAR. You no doubt think it is all hogwash, but we know it isn't. There are amazing things happening all the time. Everyone calls the shots as to what they choose to believe. And we are each responsible for the things that we do in life. I must apologize Scottish Lassie as I promised myself quite some time ago that I would not enter dialogs relative to Paul Twitchel and by not doing so I could remain civil in these exchanges. But I must admit that this was something that to me was so funny as I almost fell off my chair. So go ahead and have at it, but on him I'll remain silent. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 12, 2015 6:06:20 GMT
Hi Men an tol, Ofcourse it happened, Paul Twitchell was chosen to be the founder of ECKANKAR by the Holy Spirit. In other words, he was born into this world especially to bring ECKANKAR to the world. He was God's messenger. Miracles are happening all the time in ECKANKAR. There are amazing stories by ordinary people attributed to the different Masters thoughout the ages, they are certainly worth a read if you are interested These people met the Masters long before they became members of ECKANKAR. I had out of the body experiences and met 3 or 4 Masters long before I became a member. It is the Holy Spirit who leads you step by step to find ECKANKAR. You no doubt think it is all hogwash, but we know it isn't. There are amazing things happening all the time. Everyone calls the shots as to what they choose to believe. And we are each responsible for the things that we do in life. I must apologize Scottish Lassie as I promised myself quite some time ago that I would not enter dialogs relative to Paul Twitchel and by not doing so I could remain civil in these exchanges. But I must admit that this was something that to me was so funny as I almost fell off my chair. So go ahead and have at it, but on him I'll remain silent. Hi Men an tol, no doubt you did not know the man personally, but only by hearsay. Despite what conclusions you have come to, he was a very spiritual person. He was chosen to be God's messenger as other men throughout the ages have been chosen by the Holy Spirit (ECK). In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. The principles of ECKANKAR are not new, they have been there since away back in time. The name ECKANKAR was chosen especially for the people who live in the West, which includes the belief that we are Soul and that the physical body is the vehicle that Soul occupies whilst on this physical plane. We believe in Soul travel, which means that Soul can have out of the body experiences, reincarnation which means that Soul enters the body of a newborn after it has cast off it's previous body in death. This continues untill Soul has learned all that it came here to learn and has resolved the Karma that it has accrued by the actions in which it deliberately participated. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 12:21:38 GMT
I must apologize Scottish Lassie as I promised myself quite some time ago that I would not enter dialogs relative to Paul Twitchel and by not doing so I could remain civil in these exchanges. But I must admit that this was something that to me was so funny as I almost fell off my chair. So go ahead and have at it, but on him I'll remain silent. Hi Men an tol, no doubt you did not know the man personally, but only by hearsay. Despite what conclusions you have come to, he was a very spiritual person. He was chosen to be God's messenger as other men throughout the ages have been chosen by the Holy Spirit (ECK). In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. The principles of ECKANKAR are not new, they have been there since away back in time. The name ECKANKAR was chosen especially for the people who live in the West, which includes the belief that we are Soul and that the physical body is the vehicle that Soul occupies whilst on this physical plane. We believe in Soul travel, which means that Soul can have out of the body experiences, reincarnation which means that Soul enters the body of a newborn after it has cast off it's previous body in death. This continues untill Soul has learned all that it came here to learn and has resolved the Karma that it has accrued by the actions in which it deliberately participated. As I said, I will not enter into a dialog concerning Paul Twitchell. However, I am interested in your comment about “ . . . In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. . . . “ Specifically how has any free speech been withheld from any in your organization?? |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 12, 2015 18:44:32 GMT
Hi Men an tol, no doubt you did not know the man personally, but only by hearsay. Despite what conclusions you have come to, he was a very spiritual person. He was chosen to be God's messenger as other men throughout the ages have been chosen by the Holy Spirit (ECK). In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. The principles of ECKANKAR are not new, they have been there since away back in time. The name ECKANKAR was chosen especially for the people who live in the West, which includes the belief that we are Soul and that the physical body is the vehicle that Soul occupies whilst on this physical plane. We believe in Soul travel, which means that Soul can have out of the body experiences, reincarnation which means that Soul enters the body of a newborn after it has cast off it's previous body in death. This continues untill Soul has learned all that it came here to learn and has resolved the Karma that it has accrued by the actions in which it deliberately participated. As I said, I will not enter into a dialog concerning Paul Twitchell. However, I am interested in your comment about “ . . . In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. . . . “ Specifically how has any free speech been withheld from any in your organization?? Hi Men an tol, For starters, personally, before we say anything, we should ask ourselves: Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary. We are not meant to force information about ECKANKAR down people's throats if they let you know that they are not interested in hearing about it. Sometimes that is very difficult for me if I am trying to answer a post from the perspective of an ECKist which is what I am. I made the mistake of choosing to post on the thread Religion. So I was in trouble immediately and all I was doing was giving my viewpoint. I understand your reluctance in not wanting to talk about Paul Twitchell if you have listened to or read information of a negative nature. Perhaps you should not have answered the post that I sent to Anna. That incident really happened. But ofcourse only the people who actually saw it happen can attest to its authenticity. |
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Post by interestedbob on Aug 12, 2015 19:39:48 GMT
Hi Anna, Anything is possible, Paul Twitchel was driving his car very fast once and when turning a corner lost control.it was about to turn over and crash, when a huge arm came out of the sky and set the car upright preventing a crash. The occupants of the cars following behind, saw this take place, so were witnesses to this incident. So maybe we are not as big as we think we are compared to what else is out there. Is there any documented evidence that that ever happened, Scottish Lassie , and if so, where can it be found? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 21:20:32 GMT
As I said, I will not enter into a dialog concerning Paul Twitchell. However, I am interested in your comment about “ . . . In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. . . . “ Specifically how has any free speech been withheld from any in your organization?? Hi Men an tol, For starters, personally, before we say anything, we should ask ourselves: Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary. We are not meant to force information about ECKANKAR down people's throats if they let you know that they are not interested in hearing about it. Sometimes that is very difficult for me if I am trying to answer a post from the perspective of an ECKist which is what I am. I made the mistake of choosing to post on the thread Religion. So I was in trouble immediately and all I was doing was giving my viewpoint. I understand your reluctance in not wanting to talk about Paul Twitchell if you have listened to or read information of a negative nature. Perhaps you should not have answered the post that I sent to Anna. That incident really happened. But ofcourse only the people who actually saw it happen can attest to its authenticity. Scottish Lassie, if to you it is real, then go ahead and believe it, in the few times we have addressed such things I have told you to remain true to what you profess to believe. However, I'm sure that you can understand that others may not accept it as true. In the same context that you made the comment, since you already know that others will not accept it as true, why even say it. But I do believe that if you believe it then say it.
My reason for not getting into Paul Twitchell is that it will only cause consternation for you. His life is an open book and is vetted and anyone who wants to become familiar with it can access it from multiple sources. I have said nothing negative about him and yet you seem to assume that my position is one of having negative conclusions about him and then suggest that maybe I shouldn't comment. An interesting position.
I have pretty much stayed away from comments about ECKANKAR. It isn't from lack of knowledge, but rather a wider knowledge about ECKANKAR and similar religions and knowing better than to enter into such dialog with someone committed to such a religion.
However, where I do have an interest you have failed to respond, that is in reference to, “ . . . In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. . . . “
Specifically, what problem with having free speech do you have. Who is keeping you from having it? Who are the 'we' you refer to? What is it you want to say but cannot? Are you alleging that the Mahanta was poisoned to keep him from stating the 'word of God.' If that is what you are asserting, to b perfectly frank I do not believe it. Please feel free to demonstrate that I am wrong.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 13, 2015 6:10:52 GMT
Hi Anna, Anything is possible, Paul Twitchel was driving his car very fast once and when turning a corner lost control.it was about to turn over and crash, when a huge arm came out of the sky and set the car upright preventing a crash. The occupants of the cars following behind, saw this take place, so were witnesses to this incident. So maybe we are not as big as we think we are compared to what else is out there. Is there any documented evidence that that ever happened, Scottish Lassie , and if so, where can it be found? Hi Interested Bob, I received that information when I first became a member of ECKANKAR. It is probably written in a book, but I can't remember anything else about the matter. I don't know how it can be verified, so you will just have to do your own ferretting. SORRY!!! I believe it to be true as I had a similar experience, but mine was an out of the body experience, whereas PT's was a normal physical experience. It was immediately after I became a member and before I knew of that incident. I found myself on a ship heading for America, when a huge arm came out of the sky and handed me a book, I then found myself on another part of the deck and then the Captain came by and shook my hand, welcoming me onboard. The book represented spiritual enlightenment and the Captain ofcourse was the present Spiritual Leader and he was welcoming me as a new member of ECKANKAR. This is one of the ways that we ECKists communicate with each other. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 13, 2015 7:18:50 GMT
Hi Anna, As the link does not work for me is it possible for you to give me the info in that link in a post? |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 13, 2015 8:08:33 GMT
Hi Men an tol, For starters, personally, before we say anything, we should ask ourselves: Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary. We are not meant to force information about ECKANKAR down people's throats if they let you know that they are not interested in hearing about it. Sometimes that is very difficult for me if I am trying to answer a post from the perspective of an ECKist which is what I am. I made the mistake of choosing to post on the thread Religion. So I was in trouble immediately and all I was doing was giving my viewpoint. I understand your reluctance in not wanting to talk about Paul Twitchell if you have listened to or read information of a negative nature. Perhaps you should not have answered the post that I sent to Anna. That incident really happened. But ofcourse only the people who actually saw it happen can attest to its authenticity. Scottish Lassie, if to you it is real, then go ahead and believe it, in the few times we have addressed such things I have told you to remain true to what you profess to believe. However, I'm sure that you can understand that others may not accept it as true. In the same context that you made the comment, since you already know that others will not accept it as true, why even say it. But I do believe that if you believe it then say it.
My reason for not getting into Paul Twitchell is that it will only cause consternation for you. His life is an open book and is vetted and anyone who wants to become familiar with it can access it from multiple sources. I have said nothing negative about him and yet you seem to assume that my position is one of having negative conclusions about him and then suggest that maybe I shouldn't comment. An interesting position.
I have pretty much stayed away from comments about ECKANKAR. It isn't from lack of knowledge, but rather a wider knowledge about ECKANKAR and similar religions and knowing better than to enter into such dialog with someone committed to such a religion.
However, where I do have an interest you have failed to respond, that is in reference to, “ . . . In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. . . . “
Specifically, what problem with having free speech do you have. Who is keeping you from having it? Who are the 'we' you refer to? What is it you want to say but cannot? Are you alleging that the Mahanta was poisoned to keep him from stating the 'word of God.' If that is what you are asserting, to b perfectly frank I do not believe it. Please feel free to demonstrate that I am wrong.
Hi Men an Tol, That is exactly what I am asserting. There will always be someone who doesn't want their belief to change so will be willing to even kill a person in order to achieve their aim. I think it was either in France or Spain When he had finished speaking about the beliefs of ECKANKAR, someone handed him a cool fruit drink, which he drank. Sometime later he became very ill, so that was the end of the talks. He almost died, but his willpower and no doubt with God's help, he struggled on in order to finalise his writings. He then died soon after. ECKANKAR is a religion based on Divine Love and as such, would never wish to harm anyone but has everyone,s best interests at heart No one on this earth is perfect so neither was PT, but he was the one chosen by the Holy Spirit to be the messenger. It was his mission in life to bring the word of God to all, despite what anyone may think. By the way you must be aware of some so called adverse information or you wouldn't think that it would cause me consternation if you were to disclose it. It certainly doesn't bother any ECKist as it is the Holy Spirit that leads and when a person is ready to receive the truth of ECKANKAR, then it will happen. Every ECKist knows this. |
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Post by interestedbob on Aug 13, 2015 11:26:28 GMT
Is there any documented evidence that that ever happened, Scottish Lassie , and if so, where can it be found? Hi Interested Bob, I received that information when I first became a member of ECKANKAR. It is probably written in a book, but I can't remember anything else about the matter. I don't know how it can be verified, so you will just have to do your own ferretting. SORRY!!! I believe it to be true as I had a similar experience, but mine was an out of the body experience, whereas PT's was a normal physical experience. It was immediately after I became a member and before I knew of that incident. I found myself on a ship heading for America, when a huge arm came out of the sky and handed me a book, I then found myself on another part of the deck and then the Captain came by and shook my hand, welcoming me onboard. The book represented spiritual enlightenment and the Captain ofcourse was the present Spiritual Leader and he was welcoming me as a new member of ECKANKAR. This is one of the ways that we ECKists communicate with each other. So it's just a story, with no evidence, then, Scottish Lassie. As the late Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". That's a pretty extraordinary claim, and if you can't supply any evidence at all, it means absolutely nothing. It's not really up to me to 'do my own ferretting', although in fact I have already done it and found absolutely no reference to that alleged incident. If someone makes a claim, as you have, it's up to them to provide the evidence for that claim. You have provided no evidence whatsoever, so as far as I'm concerned it's just a far fetched tale with no basis in fact, unless you can show otherwise. As I have said several times in the past, I have no doubt whatsoever that you are totally honest and truthful, and I'm sure you genuinely believe that what you are saying is the absolute truth, but believing something is true does not make it a fact. You are free to believe what you like, of course, but if you state extremely unlikely or incredible things as facts, don't be too surprised if people refuse to accept them.  |
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Post by blc on Aug 13, 2015 12:23:49 GMT
Hi Anna, Anything is possible, Paul Twitchel was driving his car very fast once and when turning a corner lost control.it was about to turn over and crash, when a huge arm came out of the sky and set the car upright preventing a crash. The occupants of the cars following behind, saw this take place, so were witnesses to this incident. So maybe we are not as big as we think we are compared to what else is out there. Is there any documented evidence that that ever happened, Scottish Lassie , and if so, where can it be found? Its just another thread hijack. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 15:43:41 GMT
Scottish Lassie, if to you it is real, then go ahead and believe it, in the few times we have addressed such things I have told you to remain true to what you profess to believe. However, I'm sure that you can understand that others may not accept it as true. In the same context that you made the comment, since you already know that others will not accept it as true, why even say it. But I do believe that if you believe it then say it.
My reason for not getting into Paul Twitchell is that it will only cause consternation for you. His life is an open book and is vetted and anyone who wants to become familiar with it can access it from multiple sources. I have said nothing negative about him and yet you seem to assume that my position is one of having negative conclusions about him and then suggest that maybe I shouldn't comment. An interesting position.
I have pretty much stayed away from comments about ECKANKAR. It isn't from lack of knowledge, but rather a wider knowledge about ECKANKAR and similar religions and knowing better than to enter into such dialog with someone committed to such a religion.
However, where I do have an interest you have failed to respond, that is in reference to, “ . . . In this day and age we are fighting for the right to have free speech, but evidently it wasn't on the agenda back when the Mahanta was poisoned for taking the Word of God to the people. . . . “
Specifically, what problem with having free speech do you have. Who is keeping you from having it? Who are the 'we' you refer to? What is it you want to say but cannot? Are you alleging that the Mahanta was poisoned to keep him from stating the 'word of God.' If that is what you are asserting, to b perfectly frank I do not believe it. Please feel free to demonstrate that I am wrong.
Hi Men an Tol, That is exactly what I am asserting. There will always be someone who doesn't want their belief to change so will be willing to even kill a person in order to achieve their aim. I think it was either in France or Spain When he had finished speaking about the beliefs of ECKANKAR, someone handed him a cool fruit drink, which he drank. Sometime later he became very ill, so that was the end of the talks. He almost died, but his willpower and no doubt with God's help, he struggled on in order to finalise his writings. He then died soon after. ECKANKAR is a religion based on Divine Love and as such, would never wish to harm anyone but has everyone,s best interests at heart No one on this earth is perfect so neither was PT, but he was the one chosen by the Holy Spirit to be the messenger. It was his mission in life to bring the word of God to all, despite what anyone may think. By the way you must be aware of some so called adverse information or you wouldn't think that it would cause me consternation if you were to disclose it. It certainly doesn't bother any ECKist as it is the Holy Spirit that leads and when a person is ready to receive the truth of ECKANKAR, then it will happen. Every ECKist knows this. Of the things you have stated over many posts Scottish Lassie, here is something than could be proved or disproved to the satisfaction of all, that is was that drink poisoned or not. It is a relatively simple procedure to pump a stomach and analyze the contents. His illness may have been no more than an upset stomach or, food poisoning without human intent, or any number of things. What you are relating is a conclusion that is 'not' backed with any evidence at all. More over, even if someone did intentionally give him poison, the assumed motivation that it was to end his description of his religion is not proved. If there was human intent it could just as easily have been due to a competing splinter religion getting rid of the competition or it could just as easily have been someone within his own organization in a power grab. My point here is that no one knows if the drink was poisoned and if it was poisoned no one knows why. You do yourself and position no favors by confidently asserting that is was to silence his words. To further say that it was diminishing his freedom of speech is a bridge too far. That is, that is an act of the State and that is not only not proven but there is no proof that the States cared about him (and his religion) one way or another. |
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 13, 2015 20:33:52 GMT
Hi Scottish Lassie I'll print out the link when I get home after work. I can't do much with my cell phone here.  |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 14, 2015 2:54:10 GMT
Hi Interested Bob, I received that information when I first became a member of ECKANKAR. It is probably written in a book, but I can't remember anything else about the matter. I don't know how it can be verified, so you will just have to do your own ferretting. SORRY!!! I believe it to be true as I had a similar experience, but mine was an out of the body experience, whereas PT's was a normal physical experience. It was immediately after I became a member and before I knew of that incident. I found myself on a ship heading for America, when a huge arm came out of the sky and handed me a book, I then found myself on another part of the deck and then the Captain came by and shook my hand, welcoming me onboard. The book represented spiritual enlightenment and the Captain ofcourse was the present Spiritual Leader and he was welcoming me as a new member of ECKANKAR. This is one of the ways that we ECKists communicate with each other. So it's just a story, with no evidence, then, Scottish Lassie. As the late Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". That's a pretty extraordinary claim, and if you can't supply any evidence at all, it means absolutely nothing. It's not really up to me to 'do my own ferretting', although in fact I have already done it and found absolutely no reference to that alleged incident. If someone makes a claim, as you have, it's up to them to provide the evidence for that claim. You have provided no evidence whatsoever, so as far as I'm concerned it's just a far fetched tale with no basis in fact, unless you can show otherwise. As I have said several times in the past, I have no doubt whatsoever that you are totally honest and truthful, and I'm sure you genuinely believe that what you are saying is the absolute truth, but believing something is true does not make it a fact. You are free to believe what you like, of course, but if you state extremely unlikely or incredible things as facts, don't be too surprised if people refuse to accept them. Hi Interested Bob, I am not on these forums to prove anything, but just to converse with people, joining in giving my viewpoint to the various topics, which mostly I am enjoying, until someone misconstrues something that you have said, and then the situation isn't so nice. I care about people, so have no wish to deliberately try to upset anyone, but it does happen, so just have to take it on the chin with as much good grace as you can muster up. Don't you think? What about the people who were in the cars behind Paul Twitchell when the incident happened, surely someone must have reported it. Maybe it is written up in some newspaper somewhere. Perhaps if you knew when it happened then it might be possible to find out. Anyway, I'm not able to provide any assistance, so we will have to just forget that it happened. I was just replying to Anna's post about someone else's statement about Geeks. Have you found out if that is true? I'm unable to use the link so I don't know what it is all about. |
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Post by interestedbob on Aug 14, 2015 9:52:16 GMT
Scottish Lassie, the page that ♫anna♫ linked to is simply speculation about how we might be part of a simulation of life in 2015, taking place on a computer in 2050, so while it's probably impossible to prove the point either way, the likelihood of it being true is extremely low. Such a thing might be possible at some point in the future, of course, but right now that report appears to be simply filling space because nothing else interesting in the field of Science has happened in the last few days. As you can see from that quote, it is total speculation. The implication is that all pysicists are making that claim, when in fact only a small handfull are saying it might be possible. The whole thrust of the article is flawed anyway, in my opinion, because even if what we see isn't what is really there, the Universe in some form must exist, or we wouldn't exist to see anything at all, even as part of a computer simulation.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 14, 2015 9:57:02 GMT
Hi Men an Tol, That is exactly what I am asserting. There will always be someone who doesn't want their belief to change so will be willing to even kill a person in order to achieve their aim. I think it was either in France or Spain When he had finished speaking about the beliefs of ECKANKAR, someone handed him a cool fruit drink, which he drank. Sometime later he became very ill, so that was the end of the talks. He almost died, but his willpower and no doubt with God's help, he struggled on in order to finalise his writings. He then died soon after. ECKANKAR is a religion based on Divine Love and as such, would never wish to harm anyone but has everyone,s best interests at heart No one on this earth is perfect so neither was PT, but he was the one chosen by the Holy Spirit to be the messenger. It was his mission in life to bring the word of God to all, despite what anyone may think. By the way you must be aware of some so called adverse information or you wouldn't think that it would cause me consternation if you were to disclose it. It certainly doesn't bother any ECKist as it is the Holy Spirit that leads and when a person is ready to receive the truth of ECKANKAR, then it will happen. Every ECKist knows this. Of the things you have stated over many posts Scottish Lassie, here is something than could be proved or disproved to the satisfaction of all, that is was that drink poisoned or not. It is a relatively simple procedure to pump a stomach and analyze the contents. His illness may have been no more than an upset stomach or, food poisoning without human intent, or any number of things. What you are relating is a conclusion that is 'not' backed with any evidence at all. More over, even if someone did intentionally give him poison, the assumed motivation that it was to end his description of his religion is not proved. If there was human intent it could just as easily have been due to a competing splinter religion getting rid of the competition or it could just as easily have been someone within his own organization in a power grab. My point here is that no one knows if the drink was poisoned and if it was poisoned no one knows why. You do yourself and position no favors by confidently asserting that is was to silence his words. To further say that it was diminishing his freedom of speech is a bridge too far. That is, that is an act of the State and that is not only not proven but there is no proof that the States cared about him (and his religion) one way or another. Hi Men an tol, I wouldn't like to live in your head, you give the impression that you distrust everything that anyone says, which makes me think that you are constantly suspicious of everyone. I certainly wouldn't want to live that way |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 14, 2015 10:27:21 GMT
Scottish Lassie, the page that ♫anna♫ linked to is simply speculation about how we might be part of a simulation of life in 2015, taking place on a computer in 2050, so while it's probably impossible to prove the point either way, the likelihood of it being true is extremely low. Such a thing might be possible at some point in the future, of course, but right now that report appears to be simply filling space because nothing else interesting in the field of Science has happened in the last few days. As you can see from that quote, it is total speculation. The implication is that all pysicists are making that claim, when in fact only a small handfull are saying it might be possible. The whole thrust of the article is flawed anyway, in my opinion, because even if what we see isn't what is really there, the Universe in some form must exist, or we wouldn't exist to see anything at all, even as part of a computer simulation. Hi Interested Bob, The physicists believe that different dimensions exist, we in ECKANKAR know that they ixist, because we travel to them when having an out of the body experience ( Soul travel ) We also believe that when the brain goes to sleep, Soul leaves the body every time this happens, that is true for everyone. They usually go to the dimension just up from the physical dimension. That is where people get their ideas from, they are actually tuning into the other dimension. Human beings could be emulating what these ' Geeks ' are doing.,with our virtual reality games. They might be playing with us, like we are playing with these games, maybe all that we are: are advanced robots. Who knows? |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Aug 14, 2015 10:48:01 GMT
Hi Scottish Lassie I'll print out the link when I get home after work. I can't do much with my cell phone here. Hi Anna. I hope you have seen InterestedBob's post He has provided the link for me. Thanks for everything. |
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