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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 28, 2012 1:14:19 GMT
Hi Trubble! Some women are in abusive heterosexual relationships and turning gay is preferable to getting beaten to death!
The more options we have in life the more freedom we have! I support having more freedom! That's a...um.. an interesting validation for this imaginary pill... wouldn't it be more logical to develop a pill that stops domestic abuse? Yes! But if the guy's a sadist and likes being that way he won't take a pill to stop being abusive. I suppose pedophiles and psychopaths may say no to a pill that would cure them as well.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 28, 2012 1:16:15 GMT
Some women are in abusive heterosexual relationships and turning gay is preferable to getting beaten to death! You’ve lost me once again, Anna Banana. How will it stop a woman from getting beaten to death if she turns into a lesbian? Do you mean that she will be able to recruit “Dykes on Bikes” and turn them loose on her abusive husband? Hi Wolfie, I was thinking of abused women, who keep going back to the guy for more abuse. I suppose there are other hypothetical options.
This thread makes me nervous about someone putting behavior altering pills in someone's drink without that person's knowledge and consent!
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Post by lonewolf on May 28, 2012 9:05:06 GMT
I was thinking of abused women, who keep going back to the guy for more abuse. I suppose there are other hypothetical options. Anna......uummm never mind.
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Post by toby on May 28, 2012 11:24:55 GMT
Lonewolf posted.:-Sorry, Toby, but using a religious text from the bible in an attempt to validate your argument is not going to sell.
Toby's comment.:- Well it was worth a try !
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Post by toby on May 28, 2012 11:26:54 GMT
sadie posted.:-What you perceive to be repulsive
Toby comments.:- But I never mentioned finding things repulsive, you made that up. Shame on you Hinny !
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Post by toby on May 28, 2012 11:31:17 GMT
Syn posted.:-Some homosexual couples arrange to create children that they can raise (although obviously an outside party will have to supply one half of the procreational material that is required).
Toby asks.:- So if I understand you correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong), your contention that Heterosexual conception is a natual occurrance, but it means that "an outside party will have to supply one half of the procreational material that is required", is therefore unnatural. This must reinforce the arguments of those who contend Homosexuals indulge in unnatural acts. ? No ?
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Post by toby on May 28, 2012 11:34:00 GMT
Syn posted.:-Some homosexual couples arrange to create children that they can raise
Toby comments.:- Not in Iran though !
I can understand that homosexuals want something to cuddle, to pretend their relationship is like a Heterosexual couples relationship, but surely a puppy or kitten would do the trick ?
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Post by sadie1263 on May 28, 2012 12:07:32 GMT
Toby comments.:- But I never mentioned finding things repulsive, you made that up. Shame on you Hinny ! sigh........ I was simply explaining a difference in perception. (what you find repulsive, others of us here may not) But I believe you just like to keep a disagreement (conflict, difference, argument, debate, quarrel, etc) going.
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Post by Synonym on May 28, 2012 14:22:01 GMT
Syn posted.:-Some homosexual couples arrange to create children that they can raise (although obviously an outside party will have to supply one half of the procreational material that is required). Toby asks.:- So if I understand you correctly (and please correct me if I am wrong), your contention that Heterosexual conception is a natual occurrance, but it means that "an outside party will have to supply one half of the procreational material that is required", is therefore unnatural. This must reinforce the arguments of those who contend Homosexuals indulge in unnatural acts. ? No ? I was addressing your argument that homosexuals lack the nurturing instinct because "they enter into relationships that are doomed if they wish for conception to take place therefore you cannot expect the blossoming of a nurturing instinct, it's doomed from the word go." Some of them do have it, just like the heterosexuals who enter into a relationship with someone known to be infertile can still have it. Whether it is unnatural for the homosexuals who want children to use such methods, or the infertile heterosexual couple to use such methods, depends on what is meant by unnatural. In a purely descriptive sense it is, but in a pejorative sense it depends on what value judgments you make about those who are naturally infertile using human intelligence-created workarounds.
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Post by trubble on May 28, 2012 22:27:36 GMT
It's as unnatural as adoption, I guess. Or brain surgery.
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Post by toby on May 29, 2012 15:51:12 GMT
anna posted.:-This thread makes me nervous about someone putting behavior altering pills in someone's drink without that person's knowledge and consent!
Toby comments.:- They put Fluoride in your drinking water and you have no choice except to purchase a water filter !
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Post by toby on May 29, 2012 15:52:59 GMT
sadie posted.;-But I believe you just like to keep a disagreement (conflict, difference, argument, debate, quarrel, etc) going.
Toby comments.:- Please try to be more careful in future and keep the debating standards at their usual high level - thanks !
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Post by Hunny on May 29, 2012 15:54:11 GMT
anna posted.:-This thread makes me nervous about someone putting behavior altering pills in someone's drink without that person's knowledge and consent! Toby comments.:- They put Fluoride in your drinking water and you have no choice except to purchase a water filter ! I'm for putting estrogen in the water. The men would be so much more docile...
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Post by toby on May 29, 2012 16:01:24 GMT
Syn posted.;-Whether it is unnatural for the homosexuals who want children to use such methods, or the infertile heterosexual couple to use such methods, depends on what is meant by unnatural. In a purely descriptive sense it is, but in a pejorative sense it depends on what value judgments you make about those who are naturally infertile using human intelligence-created workarounds.
Toby comments.;- One of the best Societies was run by the ancient Greeks, they were a wise, learned, lot and their ideas form the bedrock of our civilized society as we know it. The Greeks had no problems with Homosexuality but they did insist that as Homosexuals were part of Society then they had to play their part for Society and that meant marrying and producing children, this for the greater good of the state. So it seems that Greeks homosexuals had to procreate with the opposite sex to play their part. I reckon this to be very fair, after all if Homosexual folk are going to live in a modern society they should be required to produce children for the benefit of the Society. If you are infertile then you are infertile and cannot be helped so the choice is perhaps, adoption or not. I feel sorry for infertile folk, being a Father myself I know what it's like to see Children growing up and it's fantastic.
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Post by toby on May 29, 2012 16:02:38 GMT
Hunny posted.:-I'm for putting estrogen in the water. The men would be so much more docile...
Toby asks.:- Do you really like looking at Man-Boobs ??
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Post by Hunny on May 29, 2012 16:06:06 GMT
Hunny posted.:-I'm for putting estrogen in the water. The men would be so much more docile... Toby asks.:- Do you really like looking at Man-Boobs ?? Good point.
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Post by sadie1263 on May 29, 2012 16:12:45 GMT
This thread makes me nervous about someone putting behavior altering pills in someone's drink without that person's knowledge and consent! [/color][/size][/quote] There are already date rape drugs.......terrifying.... The idea of someone else deciding what is "acceptable" behavior or characteristics.......is beyond scary.....think it could actually be used as a weapon of war....... We don't seem to learn from our history......The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition......doesn't work real well enforcing your ideals on others.....The Taliban are a current great example
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Post by sadie1263 on May 29, 2012 16:17:35 GMT
Toby comments.:- Please try to be more careful in future and keep the debating standards at their usual high level - thanks ! Just as you are entitled to your opinion and to state it on here....so am I. I did state that it was my belief. Thanks!
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Post by Synonym on May 29, 2012 17:22:07 GMT
Toby comments.;- One of the best Societies was run by the ancient Greeks, they were a wise, learned, lot and their ideas form the bedrock of our civilized society as we know it. The Greeks had no problems with Homosexuality but they did insist that as Homosexuals were part of Society then they had to play their part for Society and that meant marrying and producing children, this for the greater good of the state. So it seems that Greeks homosexuals had to procreate with the opposite sex to play their part. I reckon this to be very fair, after all if Homosexual folk are going to live in a modern society they should be required to produce children for the benefit of the Society. If you are infertile then you are infertile and cannot be helped so the choice is perhaps, adoption or not. I feel sorry for infertile folk, being a Father myself I know what it's like to see Children growing up and it's fantastic. I think the same argument could be said for any celibate person, rather than just homosexuals. If it is required for a homosexual to marry and produce children then everyone else should face the same requirement of having sprogged by the time you are 30, or whatever the requirement is. However I am not sure that we are running short on people at present, so no need to try to compel people to procreate, at present.
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Post by toby on May 30, 2012 8:25:47 GMT
Syn posted.:-I think the same argument could be said for any celibate person, rather than just homosexuals. If it is required for a homosexual to marry and produce children then everyone else should face the same requirement of having sprogged by the time you are 30, or whatever the requirement is.
Toby comments.;- I agree with this, we need children to grow up and take our place so anybody who does not produce children must either have a very good reason or be classed as a second class citizen. We all have to do our part, no excuses !
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