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Post by ♫anna♫ on Nov 27, 2010 5:17:53 GMT
Aubrey - I agree that prohibition of liquor failed. Do you think that was a good thing or a bad thing? Prohibition appears to have worked in some of these Muslim nations.
Just thinking out of the box here!
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Post by june on Nov 27, 2010 9:29:02 GMT
Aubrey - I agree that prohibition of liquor failed. Do you think that was a good thing or a bad thing? Prohibition appears to have worked in some of these Muslim nations.
Just thinking out of the box here! How do you define 'worked'? What I mean is what benefits are there ?
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Nov 28, 2010 2:31:53 GMT
Anna - It's rather laughable that Muslim countries have banned alcohol but some Muslim citizens are doped up and dumbed down every day on khat. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat)
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Nov 28, 2010 7:07:34 GMT
Anna - It's rather laughable that Muslim countries have banned alcohol but some Muslim citizens are doped up and dumbed down every day on khat. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat) Khat seems to be restricted to Yemen. I heard it's legal in the UK too.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Nov 28, 2010 7:11:17 GMT
Prohibition appears to have worked in some of these Muslim nations.
Just thinking out of the box here! How do you define 'worked'? What I mean is what benefits are there ? No significant criminal underworld smuggling alcohol means prohibition for better or worse is the status quo in these countries.
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Post by june on Nov 28, 2010 15:46:09 GMT
Anna - It's rather laughable that Muslim countries have banned alcohol but some Muslim citizens are doped up and dumbed down every day on khat. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat) Khat seems to be restricted to Yemen. I heard it's legal in the UK too.It's far less addictive than booze or fags though. Probably better than coffee!
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Post by Big Lin on Nov 28, 2010 22:04:36 GMT
Anna - It's rather laughable that Muslim countries have banned alcohol but some Muslim citizens are doped up and dumbed down every day on khat. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khat) Khat seems to be restricted to Yemen. I heard it's legal in the UK too.It's widely used by the Somalis in London. The government has been considering banning it but has not yet taken a decision.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 6, 2010 16:41:43 GMT
Oh, they will ban it. Pure bloody puritans this lot are (and the last lot).
The fact that prohibition of alcohol failed is a good thing. People like to get high. It is natural, and stopping them is unnatural, and even evil.
That multi part programme about the US civil war that was on a few years back had a thing in it with some general or another saying that liquor was worth a battalion (or whatever) to the other side: but in the same programme they had stories of soldiers making liquor out of anything they could find: and what the General forgot was the good morale that alcohol can produce: and I'll bet that they would have had a lot more desertion without it. Those soldiers with their stills made me proud to be human.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 12, 2010 1:11:59 GMT
Aubrey - I can't decide whether you really mean it when you make such outlandish posts. Do you seriously believe what you post or are you simply stirring the pot to get a reaction. Your posts are so far out that I find it hard to believe you are really serious.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 12, 2010 12:01:51 GMT
Are you in some club that wants to use the word Outlandish?
Getting high is a natural thing. Look at cats with their nip - is that bad? Wrong?
The ability of humans to make alcohol - to get high - in whatever circumstance they find themselves is surely a tribute to their (our) genius, and to our humanity. What on earth is wrong with that?
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Post by firedancer on Dec 12, 2010 14:18:06 GMT
Dear Aubrey Wish I could understand the attraction of getting off your head on alcohol and vomiting over someone's shoes, giggling like a fwit and thinking you know how to put the world to rights, snorting some stuff that destroys your nostrils or having your veins traced like a map of the Nile delta. Sadly it eludes me. Guess I shall have to settle for being a party pooper, though I've had a whole bunch of fun so far in life and any problems I've had - and some have been serious - have never been solved gazing into a glass, lighting a load of leaves or doing daft things with white powder or needles ;D Serious question - do you think that we are all potentially addicted to something and it is just bad luck if it is something gross like heroin? I used to be a serial Mars bar eater as a kid (without using cannabis) but grew out of it.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 12, 2010 18:06:01 GMT
Last one: no, I don't. Some things are physically addictive; most aren't. Mars bar addiction is because you like them. You have one and then you think that was nice and you'll have another. It's not really addiction. Mostly you do grow out of it because your sweet tooth goes, to an extent. I quite like them, but a half a bar is enough.
I haven't been drunk - throwing up drunk - for years. I've never had coke or heroin or anything like that. All I've had is cannabis and some speed (that sent me to sleep) and one lot of LSD (which was amazing). A good 50% of the appeal of cannabis is smoking it: I don't think I'd care for drugs that you have to shoot up or snort.
I like the taste of alcohol, and I like the slight buzz you get from it. One drink (which is all I have these days) is not enough to get you drunk. The attraction of alcohol is not getting off your head and puking - though I don't mind puking that much now, since I went through a period of puking after something like cleaning my teeth, or holding a towel between my teeth: or once, even, laughing too much - nothing to do with drink. Nowadays I wouldn't mind being drunk enough to puke, as it would get rid of some of the fluid (not alcohol) that I've drunk - always a good thing for me.
I don't mind people not drinking, etc; though I'd prefer them not to try and stop me, or anyone else.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 16, 2010 1:22:50 GMT
Aubrey said, "I've never had coke or heroin or anything like that."
I must say I'm surprised. From your comments here I would have figured you to be a crack addict at a minimum, and possibly a heroin mainliner. You're so defensive toward druggies.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 16, 2010 9:42:25 GMT
Well, you say druggies are anyone who has any illegal drug, don't you? Druggies are people too. William Burroughs was one of the best. When I started taking drugs, coke was a drug for rich people (it also turned you into a Nazi - cf. D Bowie), and heroin was a drug for old people, and NYC punks; I had read my William Burroughs, and didn't want any part of it. When Boy George was taking heroin, Mark E Smith of the Fall - not known for abstinance himself - said, "Heroin turns you into a baby, puking and shitting yourself - who'd want that?" Exactly. But they're still people.
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 16, 2010 14:08:30 GMT
Aubrey said, "I've never had coke or heroin or anything like that." I must say I'm surprised. From your comments here I would have figured you to be a crack addict at a minimum, and possibly a heroin mainliner. You're so defensive toward druggies. BA, I'm not happy with the tone of your post. Please remember that people have plenty of different opinions on a whole range of subjects. Aubrey has a libertarian approach towards most things which is why he will always clash with those who have an authoritarian approach. Believing that the present laws which criminalise drugs are irrational, counterproductive and so on and should be repealed is NOT being defensive towards druggies but simply pointing out that when a policy is obviously NOT working maybe it's time to ditch it and go on to try alternatives.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 18, 2010 11:19:57 GMT
Libertarian in some things. Not in others.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 19, 2010 1:52:17 GMT
Lin - I could not possibly disagree more strongly. Legalizing drugs is about on par with legalizing murder and rape. It makes zero sense. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 19, 2010 11:57:37 GMT
Is it buggery!! Jesus wept, that is silly.
The war on drugs was another of Nixon's paranoid ideas, intended to get back at the hippies and black radicals. He set up a commission to report that cannabis was dangerous, and when it reported that it wasn't, he ignored it and started on his dumb idea of a War Against Drugs.
BA - do you think Bush was stupid when he took cocaine? Do you think he should have been threatened with the death penalty unless he gave the name of the person he got it from? Or wouldn't that work for people from a family like that?
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 19, 2010 12:33:35 GMT
Is it buggery!! Jesus wept, that is silly. The war on drugs was another of Nixon's paranoid ideas, intended to get back at the hippies and black radicals. He set up a commission to report that cannabis was dangerous, and when it reported that it wasn't, he ignored it and started on his dumb idea of a War Against Drugs. BA - do you think Bush was stupid when he took cocaine? Do you think he should have been threatened with the death penalty unless he gave the name of the person he got it from? Or wouldn't that work for people from a family like that? It's likely he'll never answer this about Dubya. Willful denial is alive and well! NOT on your part (thank God!), but on BushAdmirer's part.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 22, 2010 23:02:19 GMT
Is it buggery!! Jesus wept, that is silly. The war on drugs was another of Nixon's paranoid ideas, intended to get back at the hippies and black radicals. He set up a commission to report that cannabis was dangerous, and when it reported that it wasn't, he ignored it and started on his dumb idea of a War Against Drugs. BA - do you think Bush was stupid when he took cocaine? Do you think he should have been threatened with the death penalty unless he gave the name of the person he got it from? Or wouldn't that work for people from a family like that? Hello Aubrey - You're not paying close attention to my posts. I've never advocated such treatment for drug consumers. It's the chain of drug dealers that I want to go after. I advocate the death penalty for first time drug dealers with an out available to them if they turn in their supplier. Then that guy has the same possibility of an out if he turns in his supplier, and so on up the supply chain.
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