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Post by june on Jul 18, 2010 12:47:06 GMT
This board and iPhones don't mix!
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Post by mouse on Jul 18, 2010 12:48:31 GMT
It is my opinion yes, what else would I post? It's also my opion that it's neither worth the time or effort trying to persuade some posters here to be reasonable about Islam. So I will just out every extremist commentator and politician as just that. [/quote]perhaps more to the point you could try reasoning some of the islamic attitudes...would be very interesting only today there is an implied threat and here it is
“He[the new muslim head] warned that any moves to restrict the expression of Islam by banning the veil or blocking the building of minarets would alienate the Muslim community and threaten social cohesion.” """
now its an interesting choice of phrase isnt it...he warns that ANY moves to ""restrict""the expression of islam...would threaten social cohesian...in other words they would kick off if asked to remove the veil...or stop building minerettes talk about being held to ransome so any moves to get back an equal society will be blocked ....because a good proportion of the population threaten social unrest so its let us do as we wish or else...well no one can say that they dont run true to form...one law for one and one law for others.....its happended before seems to me that tollorance should be a two way street and respect should be earned right now we have no two way tollorance and there is no respect for our rules and our laws
and please note jean his remarks on sharia/islamic law...the very thing you said didnt exist,,was a myth...made up by the likes of wilders ;D
here is the item More about this in the Telegraph today. The Home Office Minister says that the UK will not ban the burka because we are a tolerant and respectful society. . The new head of the Muslim Council of Britain is reported to have commented that the spread of mosques and sharia, or Islamic law, as positive signs of the greater freedom Muslims are given in this country.” “He warned that any moves to restrict the expression of Islam by banning the veil or blocking the building of minarets would alienate the Muslim community and threaten social cohesion.”
Read the story here; www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi....n-minister.html
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Post by mouse on Jul 18, 2010 13:11:32 GMT
Don't I get some thanks as weii? you both show that hating whatever you don understand or condone is the default setting of hmans ;D ..so your the only ones who understands islam and its intricacies and no one else understands anything ...oh lordy ;D...then we are indeed indeep doo doo
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Post by june on Jul 18, 2010 13:18:47 GMT
Mouse I'd prefer if you just read what I type and didn't try to 'interpret' what I mean, you're never correct so give it up as a bad job.
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Post by Big Lin on Jul 18, 2010 14:43:17 GMT
Prejudice and intolerance are NOT understanding ANYTHING!
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Post by iamjumbo on Jul 18, 2010 16:34:05 GMT
Thanks riot, I thought the world had gone mad and gw was suddenly a voice of reasonable discussion. I'm not inclined to give the insane rantings of a froth mouthed extremist the benefit of reasoned response. He's a fruitcake and it would matter nought.] but that is only your unreasoned opinon....so far you have brought no proof 1/a less ranting individual it would be hard to find froth mouthed..err no fruit cake....err facts are now nutty ?? extreemist...is it extreeme to have reached an opinon based on evidence.. those who were against communism afterall reached their conclusion based on evidence the bottom line for all those who are so averse to reality that they willingly accept the islamic scourge is their lack of principle. you've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything, and they certainly have fallen, hard
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Post by iamjumbo on Jul 18, 2010 16:37:20 GMT
It is my opinion yes, what else would I post? It's also my opion that it's neither worth the time or effort trying to persuade some posters here to be reasonable about Islam. So I will just out every extremist commentator and politician as just that. but that is only your unreasoned opinon....so far you have brought no proof 1/a less ranting individual it would be hard to find froth mouthed..err no fruit cake....err facts are now nutty ?? extreemist...is it extreeme to have reached an opinon based on evidence.. those who were against communism afterall reached their conclusion based on evidence you certainly can't get any more UNreasonable than supporting a scourge, and bane of civilization, as islam
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Post by iamjumbo on Jul 18, 2010 16:46:16 GMT
you both show that hating whatever you don understand or condone is the default setting of hmans ;D ..so your the only ones who understands islam and its intricacies and no one else understands anything ...oh lordy ;D...then we are indeed indeep doo doo don't worry hon. NO ONE who truly knows anything about islam condones it. those with such a tenuous grasp of reality do like to proclaim their hallucinations however
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Post by iamjumbo on Jul 18, 2010 17:24:41 GMT
Prejudice and intolerance are NOT understanding ANYTHING! that is very true. of course, prejudice is a dislike of something with no rational grounds for disliking it. in the case of islam, the REALITY is that there is NOTHING good about it, unless you do adore the denigration of women, murder of those who have the good sense not to follow it, wanton murder of men, women and children in marketplaces, etc etc etc
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Post by june on Jul 18, 2010 18:57:30 GMT
Jim, I'll say this once. Stop implying I'm mentally illl because I don't share your view of the world. You do it all the time and to be Frank, it makes you look like a horse's ass.
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Post by mouse on Jul 18, 2010 20:08:12 GMT
Mouse I'd prefer if you just read what I type and didn't try to 'interpret' what I mean, you're never correct so give it up as a bad job. ah you mean they are never correct... ;Dvery true
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Post by mouse on Jul 18, 2010 20:24:26 GMT
Prejudice and intolerance are NOT understanding ANYTHING! but when people will insist that a conclusion reached from reading,,observation..interation..listening,,seeing ..living ...etc are simply down to predudice and irational intollorance...you really can see there is a problem..but WHOSE problem is it those on the end of the name calling or those doing the name calling.. a straight question.... people like nasir ali..waffa sultan..who have actually lived it..are they just predudiced and intollorant ...you know people should be given credit for the ability to make up their own minds on available evidence..the credit to be able to sift through the evidence. and ex muslims are they just a predudiced inttollorant bunch who know nothing .... ..for they turned their backs at great personal cost on this religion/way of life i shall be very interested in the answers when you explain how they dont know of what they speak
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Post by iamjumbo on Jul 18, 2010 21:08:32 GMT
Jim, I'll say this once. Stop implying I'm mentally illl because I don't share your view of the world. You do it all the time and to be Frank, it makes you look like a horse's ass. huh? i never said you, or anyone else is mentally ill. i did however, point out the fact that those who support the subjugation of women, rape of adolescent girls, murder of everyone and anyone who is intelligent enough to not have anything to do with the pedophile's teaching, and all the other basic tenets of islam, have CHOSEN to fall for it . of course, choosing to support something that you know is inherently wrong is a little worse than not knowing any better by the way, it is not my "view" of the world anyway. it is simply the way that it is, and demonstrated for all to see every single day
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Post by june on Jul 18, 2010 21:24:47 GMT
Mouse I'd prefer if you just read what I type and didn't try to 'interpret' what I mean, you're never correct so give it up as a bad job. ah you mean they are never correct... ;Dvery true No, I mean that to try and give your prejudices more weight you attempt to portray my comments as meaning the polar opposite of your opinion of Islam. I've never given my view on Islam. Worth pointing out I think! If you had bothered to read anything I have ever posted you will see I have questioned the 'Islam is pure evil' point of view posted by you, Anna and Jim. Does that mean I support Islam? I know for me it means I don't support you. ;D I do this because, it is a very simplistic task to condemn all for the acts of a few. However, when anyone argues against your extreme opinions on here, you Islamaphobes prefer to suggest we are all apologists who would have us all under Sharia law in a thrice. That's quite embarrassing really isn't it? is that the best argument you have?
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Post by june on Jul 18, 2010 21:27:39 GMT
Jim, I'll say this once. Stop implying I'm mentally illl because I don't share your view of the world. You do it all the time and to be Frank, it makes you look like a horse's ass. huh? i never said you, or anyone else is mentally ill. i did however, point out the fact that those who support the subjugation of women, rape of adolescent girls, murder of everyone and anyone who is intelligent enough to not have anything to do with the pedophile's teaching, and all the other basic tenets of islam, have CHOSEN to fall for it . of course, choosing to support something that you know is inherently wrong is a little worse than not knowing any better by the way, it is not my "view" of the world anyway. it is simply the way that it is, and demonstrated for all to see every single day
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Post by june on Jul 18, 2010 21:30:58 GMT
Mouse I'd prefer if you just read what I type and didn't try to 'interpret' what I mean, you're never correct so give it up as a bad job. ah you mean they are never correct... ;Dvery true you are =you're they are = they're happy to help your comprehension of the English Language, but thanks for providing a perfect example of how you purposely misconstrue to try and 'make' your point.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jul 18, 2010 21:54:44 GMT
Wow! This thread was on page 2 when I last visited. Now it's toward the end of page 4. A good discussion. I like a debate board where there is some controversy and strongly held opinions. It's pointless to have a debate board where everyone agrees. (example: the Canadian anti-DP board where everyone gets kicked off who doesn't agree with their point of view).
In this thread I'm in agreement with Mouse and with Jumbo.
I have a good friend who lives in Sweden. He sends frequent emails reporting just how bad it is there. Watch the video on Malmo which I posted here. That's how it really is there.
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Post by mouse on Jul 18, 2010 21:59:44 GMT
ah you mean they are never correct... ;Dvery true No, I mean that to try and give your prejudices more weight you attempt to portray my comments as meaning the polar opposite of your opinion of Islam. I've never given my view on Islam. Worth pointing out I think! If you had bothered to read anything I have ever posted you will see I have questioned the 'Islam is pure evil' point of view posted by you, Anna and Jim. Does that mean I support Islam? I know for me it means I don't support you. ;D I do this because, it is a very simplistic task to condemn all for the acts of a few. However, when anyone argues against your extreme opinions on here, you Islamaphobes prefer to suggest we are all apologists who would have us all under Sharia law in a thrice. That's quite embarrassing really isn't it? is that the best argument you have? actually the best argument against islam it islam its self..its words,,deeds and actions as you say very simplistic and there you go again with the predudice throw out ..what is predudiced about quoting facts.....actions..happenings islamophbes,,a fantastic word but sadly in the wrong context,,a pohobia is an irational fear..there is nothing irational in fearing the rise of islam especially for a woman... but then i think you are predudiced very predudiced against anyone who admit they dislike islam...against anyone who has an opinion on islam or quotes islamic teachings or actions or the actions of muslims incited and brainwashed by islam so you questioned ""islam is pure evil"" but were you able to prove it wasnt and i have never asked you for suport
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Post by mouse on Jul 18, 2010 22:05:45 GMT
[ you are =you're they are = they're happy to help your comprehension of the English Language, but thanks for providing a perfect example of how you purposely misconstrue to try and 'make' your point. whatever...i try to please ..just avin a larf...some things i just dont take seriously ..its always difficult when peeps WILL not understand what your trying to say ..isnt it ..agravating too
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Post by mouse on Jul 18, 2010 22:08:15 GMT
Wow! This thread was on page 2 when I last visited. Now it's toward the end of page 4. A good discussion. I like a debate board where there is some controversy and strongly held opinions. It's pointless to have a debate board where everyone agrees. (example: the Canadian anti-DP board where everyone gets kicked off who doesn't agree with their point of view). In this thread I'm in agreement with Mouse and with Jumbo. I have a good friend who lives in Sweden. He sends frequent emails reporting just how bad it is there. Watch the video on Malmo which I posted here. That's how it really is there. glad you are enjoying bush...the truth is out theres[as they say]
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