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Post by cammie on Jan 7, 2009 2:59:42 GMT
I believe the existance of humans on earth is to learn spiritual lessons with each reincarnated lifetime until we are spiritually elevated enough to reside in heaven with our Creator.
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Post by cammie on Jan 7, 2009 3:01:06 GMT
In other words: live life, do good, do unto others, shut up, then go home.
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Post by sandywinder on Jan 7, 2009 12:02:28 GMT
I believe our lives are totally meaningless and purposeless, created by the accidental mixing of chemicals.
Either that or we are all part of a massive computer game.
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Post by pumpkinette on Jan 7, 2009 14:20:24 GMT
We're here to make the world as better as we can as long as we live, ie., be activists. Even if we're only activists in 1 area is wonderful. I also believe we're here to prepare for the afterlife and that God is always testing us during life to see our true spiritual state. I think doing this is glorifying God and that we also glorify Him through our works to help make the world better. This includes helping those in need, whether it's with money, food, etc. We can also help people with words and caring. Helping doesn't HAVE to be material. I also think that whatever traumas we go through that we have a DUTY to help others who have just come through the same kind of traumas. OK, that's enough from preacher Pumpkin for now! ;D
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Post by mcgruff on Jan 7, 2009 14:32:16 GMT
I ask myself thsi question everyday I don't think it'll ever come to pass but I think humanity needs to get it thru it's thick skull that the Human race is a family and that all nations not just 1 are under God
Jeff
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Post by mindy on Jan 7, 2009 15:32:04 GMT
We're here to make the world as better as we can as long as we live, ie., be activists. Even if we're only activists in 1 area is wonderful. I also believe we're here to prepare for the afterlife and that God is always testing us during life to see our true spiritual state. I think doing this is glorifying God and that we also glorify Him through our works to help make the world better. This includes helping those in need, whether it's with money, food, etc. We can also help people with words and caring. Helping doesn't HAVE to be material. I also think that whatever traumas we go through that we have a DUTY to help others who have just come through the same kind of traumas. OK, that's enough from preacher Pumpkin for now! ;D I agree with you! I do try to live my life this way. I've asked myself this question too. I really don't know why we are here. Sometimes I think it's only to suffer and work hard. Other times I see a glimpse of something better, something happier, like love.
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Post by mcgruff on Jan 7, 2009 15:33:35 GMT
Preacher Pumpkin?
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jan 7, 2009 21:59:00 GMT
I believe our lives are totally meaningless and purposeless, created by the accidental mixing of chemicals. Either that or we are all part of a massive computer game. I like to think we are a giant simulation created by superior beings myself...it's a frightening thought though eh? Anyways, ya get born, then ya die, the bit in the middle is called life. Live it. AH
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Post by drewsmom595 on Jan 8, 2009 11:33:58 GMT
I believe there is a Divine purpose to every life...no matter how short. And we are here to learn spiritual lessons, grow, help others and make the world a better place.
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Post by pumpkinette on Jan 8, 2009 11:36:28 GMT
That's what I call myself when I can go on and on (and on... ) about this kind of stuff. ;D If my time weren't limited, my posts on these subjects would be even longer!
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Post by chefmate on Jan 10, 2009 8:09:46 GMT
What if the matrix is true and we are part of it?
I have no clue why we are here because none of it seems to fair......just ask the refugees in Darfar or other places in the world where God crapped on them big time with starvation, disease or pestulance and then throw in a few natural disasters or wars and I bet they just want to sit around singing kumbaya my lord for their miserable lives.
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Post by drewsmom595 on Jan 10, 2009 20:53:13 GMT
What if the matrix is true and we are part of it? I have no clue why we are here because none of it seems to fair......just ask the refugees in Darfar or other places in the world where God crapped on them big time with starvation, disease or pestulance and then throw in a few natural disasters or wars and I bet they just want to sit around singing kumbaya my lord for their miserable lives. I've learned there are some things which are beyond human understanding. Life doesn't seem fair a lot of times. Bad things do happen to good people. The crazy drunk driver almost always survives the car accident that he caused, but the innocents don't. I could go on and on. I do think human suffering exists for others to take action to alleviate it. If we see someone in trouble, the right thing to do is to lend a hand or try to help in whatever way you can.
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Post by cammie on Jan 11, 2009 23:36:48 GMT
Human suffering has GOT to be a test of faith. There is NO excuse for being evil or greedy. Perhaps we suffer in order to appreciate the good more fully. I see ppl who have easy lives, are spoiled, have everything material given to them, no personal tramas, no loss of loved ones (yet) and I believe they have not evolved spiritually enough to survive the true tests of adversity, tramas and hardships. ___________________ We choose our paths before we arrive on this negative planet.
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Post by chefmate on Jan 12, 2009 0:49:27 GMT
I don't buy into choosing our paths before we get here; it is utter nonsence to me.
This planet is negative but there is alot of positive to counteract the negative but I just can't buy that someone like Carolyn for examply would chose a life filled with loved ones being taken away from her for no darn reason whatsoever other than shyt happens theory.
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Post by mikemarshall on Jan 12, 2009 19:29:26 GMT
Unlike the majority of my fellow humanists, I've experienced a number of sufficiently strange events to make me not rule out altogether the possibility of some kind of survival of physical death. I still lean towards the extinction hypothesis as being on balance more probable but I do not dismiss the possibility of immortality as absolutely as some of my fellow believers.
Chefmate is absolutely correct in that if we had a choice about our lives all sane people would choose a life of peace, contentment and possibly also comfort and ease rather than the less attractive realities which so many of us endure unwillingly.
Reincarnation is a problem on many levels. I have met a few people who claim to have been reincarnated and it immediately struck me how they were all either famous historical characters or at least a higher social class than they presently were.
In India, it has become almost a cottage industry for parents from low-caste Hindu families to train their young children to claim to be reincarnations of Brahmins.
I find the whole concept more problematic than the simple mechanism of survival, which, even though it is hard for me to accept, is marginally more plausible as a mechanism than the metempsychosis hypothesis.
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Post by swl on Jan 12, 2009 22:55:35 GMT
You're all here to entertain me.
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Post by Big Lin on Jan 13, 2009 20:14:30 GMT
Hm, you and Jumbo are going to get along well, swl.
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Post by swl on Jan 13, 2009 23:37:52 GMT
Me and Jumbo are best mates. Aren't we Jumbo?
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Post by cammie on Jan 19, 2009 1:41:53 GMT
In a life of contentment, comfort and ease... what possible spiritual lessons would one learn? Perhaps it is the more diffficult, the hardest, most tramatic lives that are endured under grace that lay evidence of true faith and spiritual growth.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 11, 2009 6:53:10 GMT
There is a saying "The Way is the Goal"! In other words all the talk about why, meaning or meaninglessness is not really that important! The "WAY" you are going is important! Either you move in a positive direction towards the "light" or you discover the addictiveness of evil "darkness" and go that way!
I think most of us have certain "dark vices", but if we are moving in the right direction more often than the wrong direction that spiritual guidance will become stronger!
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Post by cammie on Mar 12, 2009 8:11:42 GMT
Good post Anna! Some are on the white path but get off on the wrong exits, get lost, then find their way back.
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Post by mikemarshall on Mar 12, 2009 12:48:38 GMT
Welcome back, Cammie!
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Post by Ben Lomond on Mar 12, 2009 17:00:57 GMT
I believe the existance of humans on earth is to learn spiritual lessons with each reincarnated lifetime until we are spiritually elevated enough to reside in heaven with our Creator. Yeah. But who would want to live in heaven with such a cruel and manifestly racist creator? Or on a more practical note, who in their right mind can actually believe in reincarnation? Whatever you are smoking must be pretty good shit!
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Post by lawrence on Mar 21, 2009 17:04:10 GMT
In a life of contentment, comfort and ease... what possible spiritual lessons would one learn? Perhaps it is the more diffficult, the hardest, most tramatic lives that are endured under grace that lay evidence of true faith and spiritual growth. We make mistakes, so that we can have better experiences.
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Post by mikemarshall on Mar 27, 2009 1:34:15 GMT
But if we do not learn from our mistakes, we are perpetually doomed to create a world of ever increasing misery!
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