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Post by randomvioce on May 17, 2009 19:15:15 GMT
The muslim analogy does not hold, for oppression is in play. That was the point I was making. You cannot simply say it is down to genes. Culture is FAR more important.
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Post by fretslider on May 18, 2009 18:22:13 GMT
The muslim analogy does not hold, for oppression is in play. That was the point I was making. You cannot simply say it is down to genes. Culture is FAR more important. It tends to skip a generation or two.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Feb 7, 2010 0:39:16 GMT
Why did God put us on earth? Why are we here? Deep and ponderous questions. Number one, I would say he (or she) wanted us to get laid. Sex is truly a consuming obsession especially in the mating age of 18 to 30 years. We're animals and the same is true for most animals. The urge to reproduce is governing. It's in our genes. Ladies, lift your skirts. Next I would say kill or be killed. I don't know why but men are wired to compete and to kill their enemies. Enemies are defined as anyone on the other team (country, city state, religion, whatever). It's been going on for centuries. When the Romans didn't have an convenient enemy army nearby, they put up the Colloseum so they could kill for spectator sports. Look at today's Jihadists. It's crazy I agree, but it seems to be out there. It's interesting that man has the ability to learn, adapt, and develop solutions to problems. This is what puts us at the top of the food chain. It's what gave us air conditioning, automobiles, computers, and television. It also gave us spam, traffic congestion, crime, and recessions. My advice is to ignore killing your enemies and the recession. Concentrate on getting laid. Interesting. In your first paragraph you declare a joy in the most base lust and suggest that women make themselves more sexually accessible. But in your penultimate paragraph you talk about how we have developed and evolved from our primitive states. See any contradictions there? Where is the contradiction Riotgirl? What's primitive about getting laid? Happens every night most everywhere around the world. It had better continue if mankind is going to sustain long term.
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Post by riotgrrl on Feb 7, 2010 0:51:22 GMT
Interesting. In your first paragraph you declare a joy in the most base lust and suggest that women make themselves more sexually accessible. But in your penultimate paragraph you talk about how we have developed and evolved from our primitive states. See any contradictions there? Where is the contradiction Riotgirl? What's primitive about getting laid? Happens every night most everywhere around the world. It had better continue if mankind is going to sustain long term. We're animals and the same is true for most animals. The urge to reproduce is governing. It's in our genes. Ladies, lift your skirts.Sounds pretty primitive and animalistic to me. The demand for women to make themselves immediately sexually available is something a bit different from the simple urge to get laid.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Feb 7, 2010 1:38:16 GMT
Where did you find this RiotGirl? "The demand for women to make themselves immediately sexually available."
If that would happen there would be an uncontrollable population explosion. Not what we need.
Women are going to continue to use their favors as a negotiating chip. Always have, always will.
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Post by everso on Feb 7, 2010 9:44:20 GMT
I believe there is a Divine purpose to every life...no matter how short. And we are here to learn spiritual lessons, grow, help others and make the world a better place. Can't think of any Divine purpose regarding the little babies that died in the Haiti earthquake. Tell me this: what sort of god allows people to be buried in an earthquake for a fortnight then takes all the praise when a bunch of men risk their lives to rescue said people? Why does he go to the bother of letting the earthquake happen in the first place? Is it to reap praise? Ah, you're going to say "we are here to learn spiritual lessons, grow, help others and make the world a better place" Hmmmmmmmm. The thing is, it's ALWAYS god who gets the thanks, never the poor saps who do the rescuing. [come on Jumbo, we haven't had a god discussion for a while ]
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Post by fretslider on Feb 7, 2010 11:10:28 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean by 'broad sense' Let us say that you have 'the fat gene' for example. Being fat in this culture may make you worse off. It may limit you in ways that are not all that noticable. You may have fewer friends, you may not enjoy sports and therefor you might not mix with children. That may make you a loner and get buliied that makes you withdraw from school. By the time you leave, you may not have the ability to earn good wages. I would say that the 'fat gene' made you worse off, but not directly in that it made you stupid, but our attidude to fat people clearly has. This is the sort of misinformed rubbish one sees all the time. "the fat gene" Alleles do not influence in splendid isolation. It should be common knowledge by now that a gene family is a group of genes that share important characteristics. In many cases, genes in a family share a similar sequence of nucleotides. In other cases, dissimilar genes are grouped together in a family because proteins produced from these genes work together as a unit or participate in the same process. Genes interact with other genes. But don't take my word for it.... Bateson, W. Mendel's Principles of Heredity (Cambridge, Cambridge University Press, 1909) Bateson, W., et al. Experimental studies in the physiology of heredity. Reports to the Evolution Committee of the Royal Society 2, 1–154 (1904) ---. Experimental studies in the physiology of heredity. Reports to the Evolution Committee of the Royal Society 3, 1–53 (1906) ---. Experimental studies in the physiology of heredity. Reports to the Evolution Committee of the Royal Society 4, 1–60 (1908) Dooner, H. K., Robbins, T. P., & Jorgensen, R. A. Genetic and developmental control of anthocyanin biosynthesis. Annual Review of Genetics 25, 173–199 (1991) Cordell, H. Epistasis: What it means, what it doesn't mean, and statistical methods to detect it in humans. Human Molecular Genetics 11, 2463–2468 (2002)
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Post by riotgrrl on Feb 7, 2010 13:30:59 GMT
Yes Fret, but we knew what he meant by 'the fat gene'.
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Post by riotgrrl on Feb 7, 2010 13:33:51 GMT
Where did you find this RiotGirl? "The demand for women to make themselves immediately sexually available." . YOU made this demand Bushadmirer.
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Post by june on Feb 7, 2010 13:37:02 GMT
I think we are here to 'be'
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Post by fretslider on Feb 7, 2010 14:35:59 GMT
Yes Fret, but we knew what he meant by 'the fat gene'. Did you. Because I did not. Which ones???
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Post by beth on Feb 7, 2010 19:25:40 GMT
I don't think I agree with some of this. One of my best friends is heavy - always has been, so I guess that mean the "fat gene". In spite of that, she married a great guy, had 3 lovely, bright children, has traveled the world and is, generally, an interesting, happy person. Stereotypes often lead down a strange and winding garden path. Why are we here? Our parents decided to procreate. Beyond that, it's up to us to give our lives some meaning. jmo
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Post by everso on Feb 8, 2010 19:29:02 GMT
I don't think I agree with some of this. One of my best friends is heavy - always has been, so I guess that mean the "fat gene". In spite of that, she married a great guy, had 3 lovely, bright children, has traveled the world and is, generally, an interesting, happy person. Stereotypes often lead down a strange and winding garden path. Why are we here? Our parents decided to procreate. Beyond that, it's up to us to give our lives some meaning. jmo Beth, I'm sure your friend is a lovely person (I have one or two "heavy" friends who are lovely people), but, as far as traveling is concerned, sitting next to a "heavy" person on a plane in economy can be a bit of a trial.
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Post by beth on Feb 9, 2010 1:26:48 GMT
I don't think I agree with some of this. One of my best friends is heavy - always has been, so I guess that mean the "fat gene". In spite of that, she married a great guy, had 3 lovely, bright children, has traveled the world and is, generally, an interesting, happy person. Stereotypes often lead down a strange and winding garden path. Why are we here? Our parents decided to procreate. Beyond that, it's up to us to give our lives some meaning. jmo Beth, I'm sure your friend is a lovely person (I have one or two "heavy" friends who are lovely people), but, as far as traveling is concerned, sitting next to a "heavy" person on a plane in economy can be a bit of a trial. Oh, I agree with that, Everso - from experience. I don't believe my friend is quite that portly, though. She's what I'd describe as "well padded". My point is that one cannot assume people who are over their ideal weight are, somehow, socially incapable. That may be the case, but there are probably additional reasons.
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Post by mouse on Feb 9, 2010 10:16:33 GMT
we are here because of the sexual urge and the random meeting of egg and sperm the urge to reproduce.....
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Post by gabriel on Oct 4, 2010 12:36:33 GMT
we are here because of the sexual urge and the random meeting of egg and sperm the urge to reproduce..... Personally, I'd like to think it was more than that. When your parents are married for decades and never stray from each other, you know that you were wanted. I do feel for the kids who are less than welcome.
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Post by mouse on Oct 4, 2010 13:43:54 GMT
well i certainly wasnt wanted...i was nothing more than another unwanted pregnancy..loved once i arived..but certainly not a pregnancy that was wanted personally i dont think it matters as long as we are loved at some point once we arive
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Post by Wonder Woman on Oct 4, 2010 18:00:13 GMT
We're here because we aren't there.
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 12, 2010 16:11:34 GMT
'Here, there and everywhere' - The Beatles!
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Nov 1, 2010 2:10:31 GMT
Questions like this are imponderable. Why was I born an American rather than an Indian? Indians have more cell phones than toilets. Thankfully, I live in a house with three toilets. That's what really matters.
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