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Post by beth on Mar 29, 2010 18:29:21 GMT
These are right wing loonies - in three states - have been arrested by the FBI and charged with a number of complaints, from making and selling pipe bombs to conspiring to overthrow the government. This news article focuses on the group in Michigan, but others in Indiana and Ohio have been nabbed. No surprise. The question is - how many more of these domestic terrorists cells exist. detroitnews.com/article/20100329/METRO/3290381/Indictment--Militia-members-sought-to--levy-war--against-U.S.#ixzz0jZoiMZMnDetroit -- Nine members of a Lenawee County-based militia group were planning to "levy war" against the United States and "oppose by force" the nation's government, according to an indictment unsealed this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit. Seven of the defendants of the "Hutaree" militia appeared briefly this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit and were ordered held without bond until Wednesday, when bond hearings will be held. Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald Waterstreet said he wants all the defendants held pending trial. The five-count indictment alleges that between August 2008 and the present, the defendants were trying to use bombs and other weapons to oppose the U.S. government. /snip
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Post by pumpkinette on Mar 29, 2010 18:40:39 GMT
These are right wing loonies - in three states - have been arrested by the FBI and charged with a number of complaints, from making and selling pipe bombs to conspiring to overthrow the government. This news article focuses on the group in Michigan, but others in Indiana and Ohio have been nabbed. No surprise. The question is - how many more of these domestic terrorists cells exist. detroitnews.com/article/20100329/METRO/3290381/Indictment--Militia-members-sought-to--levy-war--against-U.S.#ixzz0jZoiMZMnDetroit -- Nine members of a Lenawee County-based militia group were planning to "levy war" against the United States and "oppose by force" the nation's government, according to an indictment unsealed this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit. Seven of the defendants of the "Hutaree" militia appeared briefly this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit and were ordered held without bond until Wednesday, when bond hearings will be held. Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald Waterstreet said he wants all the defendants held pending trial. The five-count indictment alleges that between August 2008 and the present, the defendants were trying to use bombs and other weapons to oppose the U.S. government. /snip PLEASE note that there are MANY PEACEFUL, NON-VIOLENT militia people in the US. I get so tired of the CONSTANT focus on the NEGATIVE.
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Post by beth on Mar 29, 2010 19:23:31 GMT
Probably a good idea to focus on the negative in regard to these groups, Laura. Better than having them run amok and kill people. Sounds like the FBI knows what they are doing. Here's another link to the other loonies in Ohio and Indiana. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100328/ap_on_re_us/us_fbi_raids
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 29, 2010 20:36:32 GMT
These are right wing loonies - in three states - have been arrested by the FBI and charged with a number of complaints, from making and selling pipe bombs to conspiring to overthrow the government. This news article focuses on the group in Michigan, but others in Indiana and Ohio have been nabbed. No surprise. The question is - how many more of these domestic terrorists cells exist. detroitnews.com/article/20100329/METRO/3290381/Indictment--Militia-members-sought-to--levy-war--against-U.S.#ixzz0jZoiMZMnDetroit -- Nine members of a Lenawee County-based militia group were planning to "levy war" against the United States and "oppose by force" the nation's government, according to an indictment unsealed this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit. Seven of the defendants of the "Hutaree" militia appeared briefly this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit and were ordered held without bond until Wednesday, when bond hearings will be held. Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald Waterstreet said he wants all the defendants held pending trial. The five-count indictment alleges that between August 2008 and the present, the defendants were trying to use bombs and other weapons to oppose the U.S. government. /snip PLEASE note that there are MANY PEACEFUL, NON-VIOLENT militia people in the US. I get so tired of the CONSTANT focus on the NEGATIVE. nope. there are NO non violent militia folks. by definition, it is violence. the difference is between those who are lunatic right wing fringe who want to destroy the country, and those who are intelligent, and are armed to save the country from the right wing garbage
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 29, 2010 21:51:45 GMT
I will admit that there are some far-out right wing loonies, especially in the anti-abortion crowd and the religious fanatic crowd. However, they barely move the needle on the looney meter as compared to left wing loonies. For a look at some of them check out any Indymedia site. This one in Los Angeles is typical la.indymedia.org/
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Post by beth on Mar 29, 2010 23:06:10 GMT
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 29, 2010 23:40:40 GMT
That's not their style Beth. They try to get murderers off the hook (like Mumia). They promote anarchy. They just love Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and other Communists. They burn the American flag because they hate America. They're just run of the mill average liberals.
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Post by beth on Mar 30, 2010 0:40:50 GMT
That's not their style Beth. They try to get murderers off the hook (like Mumia). They promote anarchy. They just love Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and other Communists. They burn the American flag because they hate America. They're just run of the mill average liberals. What makes you think that? IOW, where did you get that information?
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 30, 2010 8:38:15 GMT
That's not their style Beth. They try to get murderers off the hook (like Mumia). They promote anarchy. They just love Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and other Communists. They burn the American flag because they hate America. They're just run of the mill average liberals. except that they aren't as loonie as the typical conservative wingnuts planning on murdering cops and blacks. you can't get more tea party mentality than that. it's just the tea party in action
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 30, 2010 8:42:24 GMT
That's not their style Beth. They try to get murderers off the hook (like Mumia). They promote anarchy. They just love Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and other Communists. They burn the American flag because they hate America. They're just run of the mill average liberals. you make an intelligent comment about mumia, then go on to just simply lying, and plain dumb. YOU are the one promoting anarchy lad, by definition. anarchy is simply the absence of ANY form of government, which is your whole trip. most of the war protesters want more government, the antithesis of anarchy. get a grip
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Post by pumpkinette on Mar 30, 2010 9:51:54 GMT
I will admit that there are some far-out right wing loonies, especially in the anti-abortion crowd and the religious fanatic crowd. However, they barely move the needle on the looney meter as compared to left wing loonies. For a look at some of them check out any Indymedia site. This one in Los Angeles is typical la.indymedia.org/THANK YOU! This board NEEDS examples of this! Both political parties (Coke vs. Pepsi in an ENDLESS cycle) who also PERSECUTE 3rd parties way too much BOTH have SCUM in them who are for violence, etc. I'm so SICK AND TIRED of the "innocent" Democrats CRAP. I know better and you do, too, thank God! I also hate the "innocent" Republicans crap! Let's please be HONEST and post stuff about BOTH NOT being all innocent!
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Post by pumpkinette on Mar 30, 2010 9:52:30 GMT
PLEASE note that there are MANY PEACEFUL, NON-VIOLENT militia people in the US. I get so tired of the CONSTANT focus on the NEGATIVE. nope. there are NO non violent militia folks. by definition, it is violence. the difference is between those who are lunatic right wing fringe who want to destroy the country, and those who are intelligent, and are armed to save the country from the right wing garbage How can you be for gun rights and be against militia? I don't understand that 1 at all!
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 30, 2010 10:55:41 GMT
nope. there are NO non violent militia folks. by definition, it is violence. the difference is between those who are lunatic right wing fringe who want to destroy the country, and those who are intelligent, and are armed to save the country from the right wing garbage How can you be for gun rights and be against militia? I don't understand that 1 at all! i am in no way against militia. legitimate militia is necessary to the survival of america. it's the right wing lunatic militas who sole agenda is the perpetuation of greed that need to be eradicated
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Post by clemiethedog on Mar 30, 2010 11:15:07 GMT
I can't say I have any affinity for Chavez or Castro, but they are the problems of Venezuela and Cuba, respectively. Didn’t' care much for Marcos, either, or the emir of Kuwait, but US governments sure loved 'em.
As to the subject: those militias are whacked.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 30, 2010 13:12:15 GMT
I can't say I have any affinity for Chavez or Castro, but they are the problems of Venezuela and Cuba, respectively. Didn’t' care much for Marcos, either, or the emir of Kuwait, but US governments sure loved 'em. As to the subject: those militias are whacked. one must remember that the republicans put castro where he is. they are SOLELY responsible for everything he's done. there are problems with chavez, but at least the venezuelan people are only paying 14 cents a gallon for gas, so he's doing some good.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Mar 30, 2010 20:39:21 GMT
These tools were on a different planet...they were waiting for the anti-christ so they decided to murder a cop? Can ANYBODY make some sense out of that? Good work by the US authorities on nailing these dickheads before they murdered innocent folks anyways. AH
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 30, 2010 21:03:27 GMT
These tools were on a different planet...they were waiting for the anti-christ so they decided to murder a cop? Can ANYBODY make some sense out of that? Good work by the US authorities on nailing these dickheads before they murdered innocent folks anyways. AH the problem is, this is the typical mindset of the tea party crowd. fortunately, the majority are too chicken shyt to actually take action, but there are always the few who will. there are randy weavers and timothy mcveighs all over, perfectly willing to do what idiots like palin, rush, coulter, et al preach, and urge, but are too cowardly to do on their own. same thing as bin laden sending other imbeciles out to die
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Post by beth on Mar 30, 2010 22:39:57 GMT
Jim, did you know Palin advocated pulling over cars with Obama bumper stickers to the gathering in Nevada this past weekend. Then, some lunatic did that to a man driving with his young daughter and rammed their auto with his larger one. Very dangerous.
Palin has been quick to adopt crazed catch phrases from the minute she realized she could get attention that way. She is using a rifle cross hairs as one of her sigs, along with the message - "Reload". At first, I though she might be too stupid to know she is playing with fire, but after a quick bit of thought, I think she just does not care.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 30, 2010 23:26:14 GMT
Beth asked: "What makes you think that? IOW, where did you get that information?" Beth - all you need to do is read the Indymedia sites. They're worldwide. Go to www.indymedia.org and you'll find links on the left hand side of the page to all their sites. The Indymedia folks and the Pacifica Radio folks define the term liberal in its true meaning. It's not a pretty picture but that's where you will find it.
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Post by beth on Mar 31, 2010 0:26:40 GMT
Beth asked: "What makes you think that? IOW, where did you get that information?" Beth - all you need to do is read the Indymedia sites. They're worldwide. Go to www.indymedia.org and you'll find links on the left hand side of the page to all their sites. The Indymedia folks and the Pacifica Radio folks define the term liberal in its true meaning. It's not a pretty picture but that's where you will find it. Oh . . . Indymedia. If you're going to use them as your source, it's probably a good idea to use a little common sense. Everyone and anyone can contribute to those articles. They are, for the most part, op-eds. All you have to do is look around and find a few that back your opinion - ANY OPINION - so it's not difficult to set them up as a reference. Trouble is, they are worthless as a factual reference because most of the articles are opinion based. I have to disagree in regard to your stated opinion of Iraq war protesters. They have been pretty peaceful in their demonstrations, etc., AND, of course, they are absolutely right. War by deception is hard to swallow. Your side should be major Obama fans, if only because he let Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld off the hook where they might be hanging still. Right wing dissenters have long been the ones who push violence. Scary pin-heads!
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