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Post by randomvioce on Aug 18, 2010 12:25:51 GMT
But one could argue that your culture is backward, backward and discriminatory in its approach to its own indigenous people. But not by people who have a life fretty. No-one with an IQ above 50 is likely to make such a claim in all seriousness. I have never met a well balanced person make such a suggestion and I seriously doubt you have met a normal person with a normal (i.e. three figured) I.Q. who seriously believes that our culture is discriminatory against ‘indigenous people’.
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Post by mouse on Aug 18, 2010 12:47:55 GMT
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Post by mouse on Aug 18, 2010 12:49:07 GMT
i did have the figures for europe[and eastern europe ]]...we all in all give a much better service than we get in return..although spain..france etc are not bad at all Where is your evidence for such a remark? What is this based on?
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Post by fretslider on Aug 18, 2010 17:49:52 GMT
But one could argue that your culture is backward, backward and discriminatory in its approach to its own indigenous people. But not by people who have a life fretty. No-one with an IQ above 50 is likely to make such a claim in all seriousness. I have never met a well balanced person make such a suggestion and I seriously doubt you have met a normal person with a normal (i.e. three figured) I.Q. who seriously believes that our culture is discriminatory against ‘indigenous people’. Well, RV its a well known fact that your IQ is exceeded quite comfortably by your shoe size. I doubt you would know 'a well balanced person' if you met one. You certainly can't claim to be one.
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Post by randomvioce on Aug 18, 2010 18:42:06 GMT
Well, RV its a well known fact that your IQ is exceeded quite comfortably by your shoe size. I doubt you would know 'a well balanced person' if you met one. You certainly can't claim to be one. Well balanced and of normal intellect? Let me tell you, I have met thousands of such people. The type of people who are not totally obsessed with all thing ‘Muslim’ or ‘Islamic’ or ‘multicultral’ or any of the other trigger words that get these obsessive people going hell for leather. People that somehow manage to look at an arch on a road without linking it directly to 9/11 or the opening of a pizza franchise as a re-enactment of the Crusades. People whose are more interested in living their lives, than worrying about what other people wear in the street. People who can get through a single day without uttering the phrase ‘If it were Muslims, they would be treated differently’. You might find it difficult to believe, but I have actually met people who do not actually sit in A&E departments earwigging, lest a ‘foreign accented person’ has sullied the waiting room, or God forbid, may even be treating people. I actually know people who waste their nights sleeping instead of raging at the thought that not enough British people get treated in Romanian hospitals to justify a Romanian getting treatment here. You know what? Life is too short to spend my entire life seeing everything as some kind of cultural battle. Life is just too short to see every Mosque, halal butcher or hijab as a personal attack or some kind of victory or defeat. I am under the impression that you are an atheist, if so, are you really content to lie on your deathbed and think: ‘I wish I had spent more time scouring the internet looking for anti Muslim stuff to cut and paste’? Surely all that time could have been better spent reading a couple of books or even listening to an album you have never heard before? Leave all the obsessive nonsense to the brain dead morons who know no better and make the effort to get more out of your life. I find myself reading and posting less on this board for precisely this reason. Why waste time debating with people who simply make up whatever ‘facts’ they see fit, when I could find myself in Edinburgh, listening to people who are trying to be funny and/or thought provoking?
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Post by fretslider on Aug 18, 2010 18:49:45 GMT
Well, RV its a well known fact that your IQ is exceeded quite comfortably by your shoe size. I doubt you would know 'a well balanced person' if you met one. You certainly can't claim to be one. Well balanced and of normal intellect? Let me tell you, I have met thousands of such people. The type of people who are not totally obsessed with all thing ‘Muslim’ or ‘Islamic’ or ‘multicultral’ or any of the other trigger words that get these obsessive people going hell for leather. People that somehow manage to look at an arch on a road without linking it directly to 9/11 or the opening of a pizza franchise as a re-enactment of the Crusades. People whose are more interested in living their lives, than worrying about what other people wear in the street. People who can get through a single day without uttering the phrase ‘If it were Muslims, they would be treated differently’. You might find it difficult to believe, but I have actually met people who do not actually sit in A&E departments earwigging, lest a ‘foreign accented person’ has sullied the waiting room, or God forbid, may even be treating people. I actually know people who waste their nights sleeping instead of raging at the thought that not enough British people get treated in Romanian hospitals to justify a Romanian getting treatment here. You know what? Life is too short to spend my entire life seeing everything as some kind of cultural battle. Life is just too short to see every Mosque, halal butcher or hijab as a personal attack or some kind of victory or defeat. I am under the impression that you are an atheist, if so, are you really content to lie on your deathbed and think: ‘I wish I had spent more time scouring the internet looking for anti Muslim stuff to cut and paste’? Surely all that time could have been better spent reading a couple of books or even listening to an album you have never heard before? Leave all the obsessive nonsense to the brain dead morons who know no better and make the effort to get more out of your life. I find myself reading and posting less on this board for precisely this reason. Why waste time debating with people who simply make up whatever ‘facts’ they see fit, when I could find myself in Edinburgh, listening to people who are trying to be funny and/or thought provoking? Oh dear RV, 9/11? Perhaps I ought to bring you up to speed on 9/11.... Having created the mujahadin resistance to fight the Soviets during the Cold War, the US then lost interest in the country, and allowed its former clients to destroy it. In order to gain the stability necessary for oil and gas operations, it flirted with the Taliban, until finally the whirlwind its earlier support for the mujahadin had created came blowing back home as a terrorist horror. Not really anything to do with England, my friend. You seem to have little understanding of atheism, but we'll let that pass. Suffice it to say that all religions cause trouble, and the ROP more than the others put together. I hope Edinburgh enjoys you more than we do.
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Post by mouse on Aug 18, 2010 19:45:08 GMT
do you feel better now you all that out of your system poor edunburgh ;D..what strange creature you are
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Post by randomvioce on Aug 18, 2010 20:06:06 GMT
what strange creature you are Yes, it will be me that is strange, simply because I have a life that does not revolve around obsessing about Johnny Foreigner 24/7 and do sit repeating the same old post every day. During my time in Edinburgh, I met dozens of people from all over the World who came here, not to scrounge benefits or sneak into A&E, destroy our culture, flood our schools and force views on us, but they came to enjoy a bit sightseeing and a bit of culture to boot. These people have lives and therefore more vauled members of the human race in my book than your average Daily Hate reader, who looks at EVERYTHING as a reason to moan and groan and show a general hatred for the human race. But hey! That is just me.
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Post by mouse on Aug 18, 2010 20:30:13 GMT
it is indeed ::)but that not my problem
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 18, 2010 20:47:48 GMT
RV - I must say that you have the most extreme delusions of adequacy that I've ever observed in someone with so many prejudices.
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Post by randomvioce on Aug 18, 2010 20:50:59 GMT
it is indeed ::)but that not my problem Does it never occur to you that there could be more to life than simply pouring bile into everything, mouse? Does it never occur to you that if you looked to the best in people you would be a lot happier? Are you really so boring and nasty you you are only ever capable of looking at things from a purely negative point of view? Is it not possible to look at another human being and just accept that they just want to get on with life, same as the rest of us? Is everybody got to be judged by you and your small minded attitude? Must the ‘foreigner’ in A&E be up for scrutiny every time? Can you not simply accept that this person has broken an ankle (for example) and is waiting to get it fixed? Just one of life’s mishaps, perhaps? Fell of a ladder at work? Why is it important to you to discover every aspect of this guy’s life before we can decide whether or not we want to treat him? Why? What do you get out of life that scrutinising every foreigner’s motivation for doing anything? Why is it necessary to analyse the entire human race? Surely there is more to your life than hate?
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 18, 2010 21:02:30 GMT
RV this is a classic. Join me as I enjoy annotating your post:
Does it never occur to you that there could be more to life than simply pouring bile into everything, mouse? Does it never occur to you that if you looked to the best in people you would be a lot happier? Are you really so boring and nasty you you are only ever capable of looking at things from a purely negative point of view? [Good thinking RV. Now you can start saying nice things about America and our great President GW Bush. Glad you've decided to start thinking positive rather than pouring bile all the time].
Is it not possible to look at another human being and just accept that they just want to get on with life, same as the rest of us? Is everybody got to be judged by you and your small minded attitude? [So now I presume you're going to respond to posts from RV, Jumbo, Mouse, and myself with cheery positive comments because you are now going to be so accepting of other points of view. That's good RV]
Why? What do you get out of life that scrutinising every foreigner’s motivation for doing anything? Why is it necessary to analyse the entire human race? Surely there is more to your life than hate? [Wonderful RV. No more demonizing Americans. You're going to be so much happier now that you've decided to stop that scrutinising].
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Post by randomvioce on Aug 18, 2010 21:04:37 GMT
someone with so many prejudices. What prejudices would those be?
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Post by randomvioce on Aug 18, 2010 21:23:35 GMT
RV this is a classic. Join me as I enjoy annotating your post: Does it never occur to you that there could be more to life than simply pouring bile into everything, mouse? Does it never occur to you that if you looked to the best in people you would be a lot happier? Are you really so boring and nasty you you are only ever capable of looking at things from a purely negative point of view? [Good thinking RV. Now you can start saying nice things about America and our great President GW Bush. Glad you've decided to start thinking positive rather than pouring bile all the time]. Is it not possible to look at another human being and just accept that they just want to get on with life, same as the rest of us? Is everybody got to be judged by you and your small minded attitude? [So now I presume you're going to respond to posts from RV, Jumbo, Mouse, and myself with cheery positive comments because you are now going to be so accepting of other points of view. That's good RV] Why? What do you get out of life that scrutinising every foreigner’s motivation for doing anything? Why is it necessary to analyse the entire human race? Surely there is more to your life than hate? [Wonderful RV. No more demonizing Americans. You're going to be so much happier now that you've decided to stop that scrutinising]. I have never had a problem with America or Americans. If I was compiling a list of my favourite writers/musicians/artists/comedians/sit coms/films etc, many of that list would be Americans. In fact, I spent a rather enjoyable afternoon last week in the company of three Americans, two from Denver and a third from Boston. All three were very nice, decent and funny. They all fitted into the general company that we were in and no-one made a single anti-American comment the whole time I was there. To be fair to them though, they had made the effort to join in and mix with the company and did not come across as boorish strutting little Nazis. What little politics came up, did put them onto the slightly Right of Centre of myself, but nothing too shocking. A firm handshake and two kisses later we parted on good terms. It is not 'Americans' I have a problem with, it is halfwits and knoheads I have a problem with.
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Post by mouse on Aug 19, 2010 5:19:58 GMT
it is indeed ::)but that not my problem Does it never occur to you that there could be more to life than simply pouring bile into everything, mouse? Does it never occur to you that if you looked to the best in people you would be a lot happier? Are you really so boring and nasty you you are only ever capable of looking at things from a purely negative point of view? Is it not possible to look at another human being and just accept that they just want to get on with life, same as the rest of us? Is everybody got to be judged by you and your small minded attitude? Must the ‘foreigner’ in A&E be up for scrutiny every time? Can you not simply accept that this person has broken an ankle (for example) and is waiting to get it fixed? Just one of life’s mishaps, perhaps? Fell of a ladder at work? Why is it important to you to discover every aspect of this guy’s life before we can decide whether or not we want to treat him? Why? What do you get out of life that scrutinising every foreigner’s motivation for doing anything? Why is it necessary to analyse the entire human race? Surely there is more to your life than hate? and does it never occur to you that this is a message board,,where people talk/discuss specifics... so if there is a thread about porn...then porn is discussed if there is a thread about things islamic then islam is discussed if there is a thread about child care then children are discussed and has it never ocured to you that there are people who have wide ranging and interesting lives,,who have experiences...and who are interested in the experiences of others..who take note of things and people around them...who find people facinating and has it ever ocured to you to live life on more than one dimension...judging by your posts i would say the answer is pretty well no you havent....but that is your problem you dont care for my posts..thats fine...dont coment on them...or those of any one else you think fit to castigate for ""not comming up to your standards ""[how ever low your standards may be] and while you say you have a problem with knobheads and fuckwits no one is more crass in their descriptions of people or groups than your self...no one more inclined to put people into little boxes than you........cast the mote out of your own eye before looking for motes in others...you are not the arbiter of what is and what is not aceptable on message boards ....
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Post by mouse on Aug 19, 2010 5:20:58 GMT
someone with so many prejudices. What prejudices would those be? ::)unbelievable
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Post by aubrey on Aug 19, 2010 8:41:43 GMT
Mouse - any attempt to stop a few foreigners getting treatment that they are not entitled to, would also mean that a lot of people who are entitled will not get it either.
You have to show your passport - a lot of people don't have one; Birth certificate - you what? Even if you can find it, it often won't help.
Nat Ins number - I've forgotten it - haven't used it for years.
Etc etc.
It would cause more trouble than it solves. Much more.
And, you could always nip over to Rumania if you wanted - there's nowt stopping you.
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Post by mouse on Aug 19, 2010 15:42:22 GMT
from the national health blurbif you are going to another eea coutry on leisure or bussiness..you will need a health insurance card]EHIC] to acess state provided healthcare that becomes necessary during your visit the threatement you recieve will be at a REDUCED cost or some times may even be free it is important you take out travel insurance as the EHIC does not cover all costs
i made a point of calling in the chemists this am to get the leaflet to be absolutely sure of the facts
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Post by mouse on Aug 19, 2010 15:45:53 GMT
am suprised you can all be so relaxed about this issue of the pot being spread ever more thinly...to cope with increasing numbers who have never paid one penny into the running costss
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Post by mouse on Aug 19, 2010 15:50:32 GMT
Mouse - any attempt to stop a few foreigners getting treatment that they are not entitled to, would also mean that a lot of people who are entitled will not get it either. You have to show your passport - a lot of people don't have one; Birth certificate - you what? Even if you can find it, it often won't help. Nat Ins number - I've forgotten it - . dont worry aboyut your insurance number it can be had if necessary now why wouldnt foriegners have a passport i little iregular as they would have come through pass port control....surely if you havent got a bith certificate in this ountry you dont officially exist and a few thousand can cost a hell of lot of money..a few thousand more and your talking even more money....so dont complain when the treatment you may need isnt availble or you prescription charges rise...be careful what you wish for
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