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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 12, 2015 14:11:17 GMT
when a kid gets to be 13, he knows that what he was taught is wrong, and it is HIS responsibility to no longer follow it It is not as easy as that, parents kill their children if they disobey their wishes so they don't have much of a choice EVERYONE has a choice. many times, the choice can be between the lesser of two evils, but, it is ALWAYS choice. no matter the circumstances, EVERYTHING that you do is by your choice
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 12, 2015 14:14:51 GMT
a savage is one who doesn't practice what YOU preach. of course, there will NEVER be a peaceloving world. world peace is a fantasy, which is neither attainable, nor desirable I want that, so why would you suppose that a peaceful world is not desirable? it's quite simple. as long as there are two humans on this earth, there will not be peace. the irrefutable FACT is that world peace costs too much. it would never be worth that cost. as patrick henry said, "is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased by the chains of slavery? forbid it almighty god" the ONLY possible way that there could be peace is to submit to tyrants, and enslave yourself. no matter how much killing or anything else, obviously, peace is NEVER worth the price
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 13, 2015 22:23:52 GMT
I want that, so why would you suppose that a peaceful world is not desirable? it's quite simple. as long as there are two humans on this earth, there will not be peace. the irrefutable FACT is that world peace costs too much. it would never be worth that cost. as patrick henry said, "is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased by the chains of slavery? forbid it almighty god" the ONLY possible way that there could be peace is to submit to tyrants, and enslave yourself. no matter how much killing or anything else, obviously, peace is NEVER worth the price Peace would be a reality if people would come to grips with the vices that exist in this world. It seems people don't try to master the ngativity in their life. The vices should be taught at school and focussed on individually, starting with RAGE which in my opinion is responsible for a lot of the ills of this world. Children go through the temper tantrum stage, but it is never really focussed on, consequently rage erupts whenever something happens that we don't like, which certainly not good for your health and besides that, it is demeaning. We should be able to conduct ourselves in a rational manner instead of going overboard in our behaviour,so that someone dies as a result and all because of lack of controlof our emotions.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 13, 2015 22:31:23 GMT
Why so? Gibby. Can a child be blamed for what it is brought up to believe? in their Holy Book, The Koran? If the children disobey, then they are punished. Even when children are adults if they embarrass the parents their own parents may kill them, as according to their belief the children are dishonouring their parents and that is apparently, against their law. No wonder the children grow up to be so cruel, because it is their law that is cruel. when a kid gets to be 13, he knows that what he was taught is wrong, and it is HIS responsibility to no longer follow it And be killed by their parents as a result. This does happen even today.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 15, 2015 10:42:58 GMT
it's quite simple. as long as there are two humans on this earth, there will not be peace. the irrefutable FACT is that world peace costs too much. it would never be worth that cost. as patrick henry said, "is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased by the chains of slavery? forbid it almighty god" the ONLY possible way that there could be peace is to submit to tyrants, and enslave yourself. no matter how much killing or anything else, obviously, peace is NEVER worth the price Peace would be a reality if people would come to grips with the vices that exist in this world. It seems people don't try to master the ngativity in their life. The vices should be taught at school and focussed on individually, starting with RAGE which in my opinion is responsible for a lot of the ills of this world. Children go through the temper tantrum stage, but it is never really focussed on, consequently rage erupts whenever something happens that we don't like, which certainly not good for your health and besides that, it is demeaning. We should be able to conduct ourselves in a rational manner instead of going overboard in our behaviour,so that someone dies as a result and all because of lack of controlof our emotions. obviously, you are quite right. of course, thinking that will EVER happen, is not. that would be pure fantasy.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 15, 2015 10:45:25 GMT
when a kid gets to be 13, he knows that what he was taught is wrong, and it is HIS responsibility to no longer follow it And be killed by their parents as a result. This does happen even today. yeah, it has happened here in the u.s. there are more than a few worthless parents in prison.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 15, 2015 23:39:19 GMT
Peace would be a reality if people would come to grips with the vices that exist in this world. It seems people don't try to master the ngativity in their life. The vices should be taught at school and focussed on individually, starting with RAGE which in my opinion is responsible for a lot of the ills of this world. Children go through the temper tantrum stage, but it is never really focussed on, consequently rage erupts whenever something happens that we don't like, which certainly not good for your health and besides that, it is demeaning. We should be able to conduct ourselves in a rational manner instead of going overboard in our behaviour,so that someone dies as a result and all because of lack of controlof our emotions. obviously, you are quite right. of course, thinking that will EVER happen, is not. that would be pure fantasy. Hi Iamjimbo, I don't see why it couldn't be a reality, It just needs to be incorporated as part of school subjects.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 16, 2015 1:54:27 GMT
I want that, so why would you suppose that a peaceful world is not desirable? it's quite simple. as long as there are two humans on this earth, there will not be peace. the irrefutable FACT is that world peace costs too much. it would never be worth that cost. as patrick henry said, "is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased by the chains of slavery? forbid it almighty god" the ONLY possible way that there could be peace is to submit to tyrants, and enslave yourself. no matter how much killing or anything else, obviously, peace is NEVER worth the price Hi Iamjumbo, To me a savage is a person who doesn't care about the rights of others and therefore causes harm in some way, to that person. We should always behave in a humane and civilized manner.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 16, 2015 19:32:47 GMT
of course, mao and joe combined didn't murder as many people as adolf, all by himself With all due respect Jumbo you're wrong here. After WW2 Stalin had all the areas in the Ukraine and White Russia sealed off by his soldiers and over 14 million inhabitants in these areas were starved to death.
Hitler had made threats to people under his control if a world war was started which is one reason why I oppose the US participation in WW2. If a criminal is holding hostages a negociation may be forced to ensure their safe release.
Stalin and Mao couldn't be negotiated with and their victims never had a chance.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 17, 2015 15:21:44 GMT
obviously, you are quite right. of course, thinking that will EVER happen, is not. that would be pure fantasy. Hi Iamjimbo, I don't see why it couldn't be a reality, It just needs to be incorporated as part of school subjects. if it were incorporated as a school subject, you would have close to about forty percent of the students converted to you. the rest would oppose you
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 17, 2015 15:24:51 GMT
it's quite simple. as long as there are two humans on this earth, there will not be peace. the irrefutable FACT is that world peace costs too much. it would never be worth that cost. as patrick henry said, "is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased by the chains of slavery? forbid it almighty god" the ONLY possible way that there could be peace is to submit to tyrants, and enslave yourself. no matter how much killing or anything else, obviously, peace is NEVER worth the price Hi Iamjumbo, To me a savage is a person who doesn't care about the rights of others and therefore causes harm in some way, to that person. We should always behave in a humane and civilized manner. obviously, that would be great. more obviously though, there is absolutely NO possibility of it happening
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 17, 2015 15:27:15 GMT
i think the numbers for the chairman are pretty inflated, but, the point is that hitler was teh most evil
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 19, 2015 9:04:59 GMT
Hi Iamjimbo, I don't see why it couldn't be a reality, It just needs to be incorporated as part of school subjects. if it were incorporated as a school subject, you would have close to about forty percent of the students converted to you. the rest would oppose you Why so Iamjumbo? If it a compulsory subject they have to take it. I'm not talking about Uni where they can pick and choose their subjects. Though of could still be a chosen subject. Vices are part of life, but nothing is done to educate people about how to control these passions. It is worth a try if it was able to rid this world of so much wickedness.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 19, 2015 21:55:34 GMT
if it were incorporated as a school subject, you would have close to about forty percent of the students converted to you. the rest would oppose you Why so Iamjumbo? If it a compulsory subject they have to take it. I'm not talking about Uni where they can pick and choose their subjects. Though of could still be a chosen subject. Vices are part of life, but nothing is done to educate people about how to control these passions. It is worth a try if it was able to rid this world of so much wickedness. that's exactly the point. it would NOT rid the world of wickedness. do you think that such a class would have stopped atila the hun? do you think that such a class would have stopped hitler? would such a class stop al queda and the taliban? the answer is a resounding NO
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 20, 2015 5:36:53 GMT
Why so Iamjumbo? If it a compulsory subject they have to take it. I'm not talking about Uni where they can pick and choose their subjects. Though of could still be a chosen subject. Vices are part of life, but nothing is done to educate people about how to control these passions. It is worth a try if it was able to rid this world of so much wickedness. that's exactly the point. it would NOT rid the world of wickedness. do you think that such a class would have stopped atila the hun? do you think that such a class would have stopped hitler? would such a class stop al queda and the taliban? the answer is a resounding NO By Golly!!! Iamjumbo, You are beaten before you start, what's the matter with you? A person would not get anywhere unless they were willing to give something a try. Were there any schools in these times? Those in authority in high places did what they felt like doinging in these days, but anyway I'm talking about teaching children from a young age, surely with understanding about the consequences, it is possible that they would give some serious thought whether to go along that road. Most people don't even know these vices exist, they just do what they feel like doing, but with some understanding there is the possibility of restraining yourself and therefore behaving more responsibly.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 20, 2015 12:41:55 GMT
that's exactly the point. it would NOT rid the world of wickedness. do you think that such a class would have stopped atila the hun? do you think that such a class would have stopped hitler? would such a class stop al queda and the taliban? the answer is a resounding NO By Golly!!! Iamjumbo, You are beaten before you start, what's the matter with you? A person would not get anywhere unless they were willing to give something a try. Were there any schools in these times? Those in authority in high places did what they felt like doinging in these days, but anyway I'm talking about teaching children from a young age, surely with understanding about the consequences, it is possible that they would give some serious thought whether to go along that road. Most people don't even know these vices exist, they just do what they feel like doing, but with some understanding there is the possibility of restraining yourself and therefore behaving more responsibly. no hon. that is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. there is NO amount of teaching that would have EVERY single individual in the entire world think like you do. as long as there is just one, in the whole world, that doesn't think like you do, it is an absolute impossibility for your fantasy to come true
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 20, 2015 14:16:36 GMT
By Golly!!! Iamjumbo, You are beaten before you start, what's the matter with you? A person would not get anywhere unless they were willing to give something a try. Were there any schools in these times? Those in authority in high places did what they felt like doinging in these days, but anyway I'm talking about teaching children from a young age, surely with understanding about the consequences, it is possible that they would give some serious thought whether to go along that road. Most people don't even know these vices exist, they just do what they feel like doing, but with some understanding there is the possibility of restraining yourself and therefore behaving more responsibly. no hon. that is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. there is NO amount of teaching that would have EVERY single individual in the entire world think like you do. as long as there is just one, in the whole world, that doesn't think like you do, it is an absolute impossibility for your fantasy to come true Hi Iamjumbo, the fact that most people don't give any conscious thought to the fact that the vices exist, they are not going to give any credence to any of them. Explaining to children what they mean and the importance of not succumbing to their influence, would make them aware when they reach adulthood.that there is another road that they can travel.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 21, 2015 10:42:41 GMT
no hon. that is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. there is NO amount of teaching that would have EVERY single individual in the entire world think like you do. as long as there is just one, in the whole world, that doesn't think like you do, it is an absolute impossibility for your fantasy to come true Hi Iamjumbo, the fact that most people don't give any conscious thought to the fact that the vices exist, they are not going to give any credence to any of them. Explaining to children what they mean and the importance of not succumbing to their influence, would make them aware when they reach adulthood.that there is another road that they can travel. atila was aware that there was another road that he could travel. hitler was are that there was another road that he could travel. EVERYONE knows that there is another road that they can travel. the majority of people never take the wrong road to begin with. a few decide to take the right road after they've been punished for taking the wrong one. some, and there will ALWAYS, through eternity, be some, who know that the road they are on is wrong, but CHOOSE to spend their lives on it. there is NOTHING, nada, zip, zilch, that can EVER be done, to change that. that is the consequence of the free will that god gave man
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 21, 2015 11:55:14 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, the fact that most people don't give any conscious thought to the fact that the vices exist, they are not going to give any credence to any of them. Explaining to children what they mean and the importance of not succumbing to their influence, would make them aware when they reach adulthood.that there is another road that they can travel. atila was aware that there was another road that he could travel. hitler was are that there was another road that he could travel. EVERYONE knows that there is another road that they can travel. the majority of people never take the wrong road to begin with. a few decide to take the right road after they've been punished for taking the wrong one. some, and there will ALWAYS, through eternity, be some, who know that the road they are on is wrong, but CHOOSE to spend their lives on it. there is NOTHING, nada, zip, zilch, that can EVER be done, to change that. that is the consequence of the free will that god gave man How do you know what they knew and were thinking as a result. I know from my own life that I'm not aware of certain things until someone draws my attention towards it, and then you wonder why you weren't aware of it beforehand. It just doesn't enter your mind for some reason. I consider myself a thoughtful person but the fact remains that some things just don't cross my mind. So it is possible that the people whom you mention could have the same thing happen to them. It just doesn't enter their mind that they could travel down a different road. So I still believe that if the different vices were brought to the attention of people when they are at a young age, it could make a difference to their future behaviour and some events could have ended up differently. A person is not aware of everything, despite what you say. In reincarnation a Soul enters the body of a newborn which has a certain path cut out for it which will unfold as the child grows older, giving that Soul experiences that will teach it. But as Soul always has free will it can choose another path to that which was originally arranged for it.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 21, 2015 12:48:04 GMT
so, you are saying that hitler wasn't aware of the fact that what he was doing was wrong? you don't think that the hitman who murders someone for money isn't aware of the fact that what he is doing is wrong? you don't think that the punk who hides in the bushes, and pulls a girl walking by and rapes her does not know that what he is doing is wrong?
right and wrong is NOT something that you have to think about.
nonetheless, the idea that if everyone in the entire world was taught something, that EVERYONE in the world would accept and follow it, it totally insane. there is NO possibility that it would ever happen
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