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Post by Scottish Lassie on Apr 24, 2015 23:29:49 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, I realised after I posted, that it was Bush Admirer who sent it in, then when I read it again, and saw that the book hadn't been printed yet, the penny dropped. It's certainly a very clever and funny story, that's for sure. it's damn sure funny, and really is clever. it's just not something that hillary would say. I would, but hillary wouldn't Hi Iamjumbo, I thought she might have said it in order to clear the air, about the truth of the matter, in wanting to protect her husband. It is certainly difficult being in the public eye, you are constantly under a microscope, which can't be a good situation inwhich to be. |
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 25, 2015 12:46:29 GMT
it's damn sure funny, and really is clever. it's just not something that hillary would say. I would, but hillary wouldn't Hi Iamjumbo, I thought she might have said it in order to clear the air, about the truth of the matter, in wanting to protect her husband. It is certainly difficult being in the public eye, you are constantly under a microscope, which can't be a good situation inwhich to be. that's true. any kind of job of being in the public eye requires narcissism and exhibitionism. if you care what anyone else thinks, you have no business doing something that everyone else knows about |
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 27, 2015 22:24:59 GMT
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Apr 30, 2015 12:37:20 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, I thought she might have said it in order to clear the air, about the truth of the matter, in wanting to protect her husband. It is certainly difficult being in the public eye, you are constantly under a microscope, which can't be a good situation inwhich to be. that's true. any kind of job of being in the public eye requires narcissism and exhibitionism. if you care what anyone else thinks, you have no business doing something that everyone else knows about Hi Iamjumbo, I don't think exhibitionism and narcissism has anything to do with being a public figure, but they do have to try and please a whole lot of people In order to seem to be doing a good job at running the country or whatever, It goes with the job. So they do have to care. |
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 30, 2015 14:36:34 GMT
that's true. any kind of job of being in the public eye requires narcissism and exhibitionism. if you care what anyone else thinks, you have no business doing something that everyone else knows about Hi Iamjumbo, I don't think exhibitionism and narcissism has anything to do with being a public figure, but they do have to try and please a whole lot of people In order to seem to be doing a good job at running the country or whatever, It goes with the job. So they do have to care. the only time that politicians try to please anyone is during an election year. once elected, they could care less what their constituents want |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Apr 30, 2015 17:26:46 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, I don't think exhibitionism and narcissism has anything to do with being a public figure, but they do have to try and please a whole lot of people In order to seem to be doing a good job at running the country or whatever, It goes with the job. So they do have to care. the only time that politicians try to please anyone is during an election year. once elected, they could care less what their constituents want There you go again Iamjumbo,, everyone tries to tell me that they are positive minded, but when they answer a post, they are speaking of the worst in human beings instead of the best. I do believe that it's the norm for people to try to do their best, and I don't think politicians are any different., running a country would be very hard to do, do you think you would do any better if you were in their shoes? |
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 30, 2015 19:00:52 GMT
the only time that politicians try to please anyone is during an election year. once elected, they could care less what their constituents want There you go again Iamjumbo,, everyone tries to tell me that they are positive minded, but when they answer a post, they are speaking of the worst in human beings instead of the best. I do believe that it's the norm for people to try to do their best, and I don't think politicians are any different., running a country would be very hard to do, do you think you would do any better if you were in their shoes? positive minded means recognizing the evil in the world. obviously, i would do better than those we have |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 1, 2015 19:09:21 GMT
There you go again Iamjumbo,, everyone tries to tell me that they are positive minded, but when they answer a post, they are speaking of the worst in human beings instead of the best. I do believe that it's the norm for people to try to do their best, and I don't think politicians are any different., running a country would be very hard to do, do you think you would do any better if you were in their shoes? positive minded means recognizing the evil in the world. obviously, i would do better than those we have That is not how I see it Iamjumbo, I wouldn't dwell on the fact that the evil exists. To dwell on it is to make it important and that to me is negative thinking. Evil stems from Satan and to think about Satan makes him important, and he isn't important in my life, only God is, and the Holy Spirit. |
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Post by iamjumbo on May 2, 2015 9:49:55 GMT
positive minded means recognizing the evil in the world. obviously, i would do better than those we have That is not how I see it Iamjumbo, I wouldn't dwell on the fact that the evil exists. To dwell on it is to make it important and that to me is negative thinking. Evil stems from Satan and to think about Satan makes him important, and he isn't important in my life, only God is, and the Holy Spirit. no hon, i didn't say anything about DWELLING on it. i said recognizing the fact that the world is evil, and that there are just purely evil people. your problem is that you insist on thinking that the world is mostly good, and that it would be possible to get truly evil individuals to change. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 4, 2015 8:03:17 GMT
That is not how I see it Iamjumbo, I wouldn't dwell on the fact that the evil exists. To dwell on it is to make it important and that to me is negative thinking. Evil stems from Satan and to think about Satan makes him important, and he isn't important in my life, only God is, and the Holy Spirit. no hon, i didn't say anything about DWELLING on it. i said recognizing the fact that the world is evil, and that there are just purely evil people. your problem is that you insist on thinking that the world is mostly good, and that it would be possible to get truly evil individuals to change. It has to happen at some point, because a wicked person is asked to repent and sin no more. The people who don't comply will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So what say you? |
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Post by iamjumbo on May 4, 2015 11:11:14 GMT
no hon, i didn't say anything about DWELLING on it. i said recognizing the fact that the world is evil, and that there are just purely evil people. your problem is that you insist on thinking that the world is mostly good, and that it would be possible to get truly evil individuals to change. It has to happen at some point, because a wicked person is asked to repent and sin no more. The people who don't comply will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So what say you? there will be many more who DON'T enter the kingdom of heaven than those who do |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 5, 2015 13:59:14 GMT
It has to happen at some point, because a wicked person is asked to repent and sin no more. The people who don't comply will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So what say you? there will be many more who DON'T enter the kingdom of heaven than those who do Hi Iamjumbo, we have been told that there will come a time when all will believe that ECKANKAR is the true Religion including Atheists. So we will all be able to enter the Kindom of Heaven eventually. |
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Post by iamjumbo on May 5, 2015 14:44:30 GMT
there will be many more who DON'T enter the kingdom of heaven than those who do Hi Iamjumbo, we have been told that there will come a time when all will believe that ECKANKAR is the true Religion including Atheists. So we will all be able to enter the Kindom of Heaven eventually. that time will NEVER come hon. ONLY those who accept christ forgiving their sins will be entering the kingdom of heaven, and they will be far less in number than those cast into damnation |
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Post by blc on May 5, 2015 15:19:26 GMT
It has to happen at some point, because a wicked person is asked to repent and sin no more. The people who don't comply will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So what say you? there will be many more who DON'T enter the kingdom of heaven than those who do Agree. We are told that narrow is the path and few that will find it. |
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Post by iamjumbo on May 5, 2015 15:21:33 GMT
there will be many more who DON'T enter the kingdom of heaven than those who do Agree. We are told that narrow is the path and few that will find it. exactly |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 7, 2015 8:46:02 GMT
there will be many more who DON'T enter the kingdom of heaven than those who do Agree. We are told that narrow is the path and few that will find it. Hi BLC, I know for a fact that I have found it, so I'm safe. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 7, 2015 21:09:41 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, we have been told that there will come a time when all will believe that ECKANKAR is the true Religion including Atheists. So we will all be able to enter the Kindom of Heaven eventually. that time will NEVER come hon. ONLY those who accept christ forgiving their sins will be entering the kingdom of heaven, and they will be far less in number than those cast into damnation Hi Iamjumbo, that is only what you have come to believe, are we children? I thought we were all grown up and could look after ourselves? I believe I told you before that there are many dimensions in the Kingdom of Heaven, and I have visited some of them, so I know that to be true. In ECKANKAR you don't have to wait until you die before you can go there. Soul leaves the body and can visit the dimension that it has earned by its level of spiritual development. We are climbing Jacobs Ladder ( figuratively speaking ) back to the Godhead. step by step until we reach the dimension where God dwells. Everyone will get there in their own good time. |
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 8, 2015 0:58:20 GMT
All religious beliefs are just complete nonsense.
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Post by iamjumbo on May 8, 2015 10:28:49 GMT
that time will NEVER come hon. ONLY those who accept christ forgiving their sins will be entering the kingdom of heaven, and they will be far less in number than those cast into damnation Hi Iamjumbo, that is only what you have come to believe, are we children? I thought we were all grown up and could look after ourselves? I believe I told you before that there are many dimensions in the Kingdom of Heaven, and I have visited some of them, so I know that to be true. In ECKANKAR you don't have to wait until you die before you can go there. Soul leaves the body and can visit the dimension that it has earned by its level of spiritual development. We are climbing Jacobs Ladder ( figuratively speaking ) back to the Godhead. step by step until we reach the dimension where God dwells. Everyone will get there in their own good time. no hon. most will not get there at all |
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Post by iamjumbo on May 8, 2015 10:29:53 GMT
All religious beliefs are just complete nonsense. ah, my boy, the prudent man would rather believe, and find out that he's wrong, than to not believe, and find out he's wrong |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 11, 2015 4:11:30 GMT
Are we still arguing over what we all think is the truth? I am having real spiritual experiences, which tell me that my belief is the truth. I am not just relying on faith of things unseen, but of actual experiences. What proof do you have?
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Post by Big Lin on May 11, 2015 17:26:03 GMT
Are we still arguing over what we all think is the truth? I am having real spiritual experiences, which tell me that my belief is the truth. I am not just relying on faith of things unseen, but of actual experiences. What proof do you have? Chris, the point about truth is that EVERYONE knows it's the truth. You seem to assume that your spiritual experiences are valid but that people who have different spiritual experiences from you are non-valid. Now NO amount of experience - spiritual or otherwise - gives you the right to claim that your inner visions are 'the truth' and for what it's worth how do you explain conflicts between spiritual experiences? Muhammed had spiritual experiences that led him to believe his ideas were truth; so did Jesus, Moses, Paul, Torquemada, Conrad of Marburg, Gesar, Buddha, Lao Tse and so on. Now as all these guys believed many different things many of which are incompatible with each other how can you honestly claim that spiritual experience alone is any kind of statement about truth or knowledge? It's an experience. I've had spiritual experiences - even my husband has and he's an agnostic. The problem is when people go on to draw conclusions from them that aren't justified. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 20:11:52 GMT
Are we still arguing over what we all think is the truth? I am having real spiritual experiences, which tell me that my belief is the truth. I am not just relying on faith of things unseen, but of actual experiences. What proof do you have? Chris, the point about truth is that EVERYONE knows it's the truth. You seem to assume that your spiritual experiences are valid but that people who have different spiritual experiences from you are non-valid. Now NO amount of experience - spiritual or otherwise - gives you the right to claim that your inner visions are 'the truth' and for what it's worth how do you explain conflicts between spiritual experiences? Muhammed had spiritual experiences that led him to believe his ideas were truth; so did Jesus, Moses, Paul, Torquemada, Conrad of Marburg, Gesar, Buddha, Lao Tse and so on. Now as all these guys believed many different things many of which are incompatible with each other how can you honestly claim that spiritual experience alone is any kind of statement about truth or knowledge? It's an experience. I've had spiritual experiences - even my husband has and he's an agnostic. The problem is when people go on to draw conclusions from them that aren't justified. Very well put Big Lin. It is amazing the numbers of absolute truths that are offered.
Of course, just between you and I, only you and I know the absolute truth. . . . . . . . . but then. . . . . I'm not to sure about you so that only leaves me knowing the absolute truth. Just so you are aware mine includes worshiping the Road Runner who demonstrates how to never fail!
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 11, 2015 23:52:06 GMT
Are we still arguing over what we all think is the truth? I am having real spiritual experiences, which tell me that my belief is the truth. I am not just relying on faith of things unseen, but of actual experiences. What proof do you have? Chris, the point about truth is that EVERYONE knows it's the truth. You seem to assume that your spiritual experiences are valid but that people who have different spiritual experiences from you are non-valid. Now NO amount of experience - spiritual or otherwise - gives you the right to claim that your inner visions are 'the truth' and for what it's worth how do you explain conflicts between spiritual experiences? Muhammed had spiritual experiences that led him to believe his ideas were truth; so did Jesus, Moses, Paul, Torquemada, Conrad of Marburg, Gesar, Buddha, Lao Tse and so on. Now as all these guys believed many different things many of which are incompatible with each other how can you honestly claim that spiritual experience alone is any kind of statement about truth or knowledge? It's an experience. I've had spiritual experiences - even my husband has and he's an agnostic. The problem is when people go on to draw conclusions from them that aren't justified. Lin - I don't think Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Paul, Torquemada, Conrad of Marburg, Gesar, Buddha, Lao Tse, etc. had any spiritual experiences. They either imagined spiritual experiences or they were con men (most likely). |
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Post by Big Lin on May 12, 2015 22:26:16 GMT
Chris, the point about truth is that EVERYONE knows it's the truth. You seem to assume that your spiritual experiences are valid but that people who have different spiritual experiences from you are non-valid. Now NO amount of experience - spiritual or otherwise - gives you the right to claim that your inner visions are 'the truth' and for what it's worth how do you explain conflicts between spiritual experiences? Muhammed had spiritual experiences that led him to believe his ideas were truth; so did Jesus, Moses, Paul, Torquemada, Conrad of Marburg, Gesar, Buddha, Lao Tse and so on. Now as all these guys believed many different things many of which are incompatible with each other how can you honestly claim that spiritual experience alone is any kind of statement about truth or knowledge? It's an experience. I've had spiritual experiences - even my husband has and he's an agnostic. The problem is when people go on to draw conclusions from them that aren't justified. Lin - I don't think Mohammed, Jesus, Moses, Paul, Torquemada, Conrad of Marburg, Gesar, Buddha, Lao Tse, etc. had any spiritual experiences. They either imagined spiritual experiences or they were con men (most likely). I'm not really sure what you would think constituted a genuine spiritual experience, BA. But the point I was making was that it's one thing believing that you've had them and another forcing people to agree with you on the basis of those beliefs. Truth is much more than just belief or experience. |
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