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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 17, 2015 15:24:51 GMT
it's quite simple. as long as there are two humans on this earth, there will not be peace. the irrefutable FACT is that world peace costs too much. it would never be worth that cost. as patrick henry said, "is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased by the chains of slavery? forbid it almighty god" the ONLY possible way that there could be peace is to submit to tyrants, and enslave yourself. no matter how much killing or anything else, obviously, peace is NEVER worth the price Hi Iamjumbo, To me a savage is a person who doesn't care about the rights of others and therefore causes harm in some way, to that person. We should always behave in a humane and civilized manner. obviously, that would be great. more obviously though, there is absolutely NO possibility of it happening
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 17, 2015 15:27:15 GMT
i think the numbers for the chairman are pretty inflated, but, the point is that hitler was teh most evil
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 19, 2015 9:04:59 GMT
Hi Iamjimbo, I don't see why it couldn't be a reality, It just needs to be incorporated as part of school subjects. if it were incorporated as a school subject, you would have close to about forty percent of the students converted to you. the rest would oppose you Why so Iamjumbo? If it a compulsory subject they have to take it. I'm not talking about Uni where they can pick and choose their subjects. Though of could still be a chosen subject. Vices are part of life, but nothing is done to educate people about how to control these passions. It is worth a try if it was able to rid this world of so much wickedness.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 19, 2015 21:55:34 GMT
if it were incorporated as a school subject, you would have close to about forty percent of the students converted to you. the rest would oppose you Why so Iamjumbo? If it a compulsory subject they have to take it. I'm not talking about Uni where they can pick and choose their subjects. Though of could still be a chosen subject. Vices are part of life, but nothing is done to educate people about how to control these passions. It is worth a try if it was able to rid this world of so much wickedness. that's exactly the point. it would NOT rid the world of wickedness. do you think that such a class would have stopped atila the hun? do you think that such a class would have stopped hitler? would such a class stop al queda and the taliban? the answer is a resounding NO
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 20, 2015 5:36:53 GMT
Why so Iamjumbo? If it a compulsory subject they have to take it. I'm not talking about Uni where they can pick and choose their subjects. Though of could still be a chosen subject. Vices are part of life, but nothing is done to educate people about how to control these passions. It is worth a try if it was able to rid this world of so much wickedness. that's exactly the point. it would NOT rid the world of wickedness. do you think that such a class would have stopped atila the hun? do you think that such a class would have stopped hitler? would such a class stop al queda and the taliban? the answer is a resounding NO By Golly!!! Iamjumbo, You are beaten before you start, what's the matter with you? A person would not get anywhere unless they were willing to give something a try. Were there any schools in these times? Those in authority in high places did what they felt like doinging in these days, but anyway I'm talking about teaching children from a young age, surely with understanding about the consequences, it is possible that they would give some serious thought whether to go along that road. Most people don't even know these vices exist, they just do what they feel like doing, but with some understanding there is the possibility of restraining yourself and therefore behaving more responsibly.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 20, 2015 12:41:55 GMT
that's exactly the point. it would NOT rid the world of wickedness. do you think that such a class would have stopped atila the hun? do you think that such a class would have stopped hitler? would such a class stop al queda and the taliban? the answer is a resounding NO By Golly!!! Iamjumbo, You are beaten before you start, what's the matter with you? A person would not get anywhere unless they were willing to give something a try. Were there any schools in these times? Those in authority in high places did what they felt like doinging in these days, but anyway I'm talking about teaching children from a young age, surely with understanding about the consequences, it is possible that they would give some serious thought whether to go along that road. Most people don't even know these vices exist, they just do what they feel like doing, but with some understanding there is the possibility of restraining yourself and therefore behaving more responsibly. no hon. that is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. there is NO amount of teaching that would have EVERY single individual in the entire world think like you do. as long as there is just one, in the whole world, that doesn't think like you do, it is an absolute impossibility for your fantasy to come true
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 20, 2015 14:16:36 GMT
By Golly!!! Iamjumbo, You are beaten before you start, what's the matter with you? A person would not get anywhere unless they were willing to give something a try. Were there any schools in these times? Those in authority in high places did what they felt like doinging in these days, but anyway I'm talking about teaching children from a young age, surely with understanding about the consequences, it is possible that they would give some serious thought whether to go along that road. Most people don't even know these vices exist, they just do what they feel like doing, but with some understanding there is the possibility of restraining yourself and therefore behaving more responsibly. no hon. that is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. there is NO amount of teaching that would have EVERY single individual in the entire world think like you do. as long as there is just one, in the whole world, that doesn't think like you do, it is an absolute impossibility for your fantasy to come true Hi Iamjumbo, the fact that most people don't give any conscious thought to the fact that the vices exist, they are not going to give any credence to any of them. Explaining to children what they mean and the importance of not succumbing to their influence, would make them aware when they reach adulthood.that there is another road that they can travel.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 21, 2015 10:42:41 GMT
no hon. that is a nice fantasy, but that is all it is. there is NO amount of teaching that would have EVERY single individual in the entire world think like you do. as long as there is just one, in the whole world, that doesn't think like you do, it is an absolute impossibility for your fantasy to come true Hi Iamjumbo, the fact that most people don't give any conscious thought to the fact that the vices exist, they are not going to give any credence to any of them. Explaining to children what they mean and the importance of not succumbing to their influence, would make them aware when they reach adulthood.that there is another road that they can travel. atila was aware that there was another road that he could travel. hitler was are that there was another road that he could travel. EVERYONE knows that there is another road that they can travel. the majority of people never take the wrong road to begin with. a few decide to take the right road after they've been punished for taking the wrong one. some, and there will ALWAYS, through eternity, be some, who know that the road they are on is wrong, but CHOOSE to spend their lives on it. there is NOTHING, nada, zip, zilch, that can EVER be done, to change that. that is the consequence of the free will that god gave man
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 21, 2015 11:55:14 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, the fact that most people don't give any conscious thought to the fact that the vices exist, they are not going to give any credence to any of them. Explaining to children what they mean and the importance of not succumbing to their influence, would make them aware when they reach adulthood.that there is another road that they can travel. atila was aware that there was another road that he could travel. hitler was are that there was another road that he could travel. EVERYONE knows that there is another road that they can travel. the majority of people never take the wrong road to begin with. a few decide to take the right road after they've been punished for taking the wrong one. some, and there will ALWAYS, through eternity, be some, who know that the road they are on is wrong, but CHOOSE to spend their lives on it. there is NOTHING, nada, zip, zilch, that can EVER be done, to change that. that is the consequence of the free will that god gave man How do you know what they knew and were thinking as a result. I know from my own life that I'm not aware of certain things until someone draws my attention towards it, and then you wonder why you weren't aware of it beforehand. It just doesn't enter your mind for some reason. I consider myself a thoughtful person but the fact remains that some things just don't cross my mind. So it is possible that the people whom you mention could have the same thing happen to them. It just doesn't enter their mind that they could travel down a different road. So I still believe that if the different vices were brought to the attention of people when they are at a young age, it could make a difference to their future behaviour and some events could have ended up differently. A person is not aware of everything, despite what you say. In reincarnation a Soul enters the body of a newborn which has a certain path cut out for it which will unfold as the child grows older, giving that Soul experiences that will teach it. But as Soul always has free will it can choose another path to that which was originally arranged for it.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 21, 2015 12:48:04 GMT
so, you are saying that hitler wasn't aware of the fact that what he was doing was wrong? you don't think that the hitman who murders someone for money isn't aware of the fact that what he is doing is wrong? you don't think that the punk who hides in the bushes, and pulls a girl walking by and rapes her does not know that what he is doing is wrong?
right and wrong is NOT something that you have to think about.
nonetheless, the idea that if everyone in the entire world was taught something, that EVERYONE in the world would accept and follow it, it totally insane. there is NO possibility that it would ever happen
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 23, 2015 5:18:31 GMT
so, you are saying that hitler wasn't aware of the fact that what he was doing was wrong? you don't think that the hitman who murders someone for money isn't aware of the fact that what he is doing is wrong? you don't think that the punk who hides in the bushes, and pulls a girl walking by and rapes her does not know that what he is doing is wrong? right and wrong is NOT something that you have to think about. nonetheless, the idea that if everyone in the entire world was taught something, that EVERYONE in the world would accept and follow it, it totally insane. there is NO possibility that it would ever happen You have to start somewhere Iamjumbo, Hitler and Atilla acted on instinct, bit if they had been made aware of the vices and taught what the meant and how to be in control of them the there is definitely the possibility of them having made a different choice.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 23, 2015 10:21:32 GMT
so, you are saying that hitler wasn't aware of the fact that what he was doing was wrong? you don't think that the hitman who murders someone for money isn't aware of the fact that what he is doing is wrong? you don't think that the punk who hides in the bushes, and pulls a girl walking by and rapes her does not know that what he is doing is wrong? right and wrong is NOT something that you have to think about. nonetheless, the idea that if everyone in the entire world was taught something, that EVERYONE in the world would accept and follow it, it totally insane. there is NO possibility that it would ever happen You have to start somewhere Iamjumbo, Hitler and Atilla acted on instinct, bit if they had been made aware of the vices and taught what the meant and how to be in control of them the there is definitely the possibility of them having made a different choice. huh uh. the notion that EVERYONE would accept your idea is just crazy hon. totally aside from the fact that everyone would not accept it, but still be a good person, the BIG fact is that there would be some who would not accept it and do evil, simply because they ARE evil. the idea that some are not inherently evil is ridiculous on its face
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 23, 2015 12:06:20 GMT
You have to start somewhere Iamjumbo, Hitler and Atilla acted on instinct, bit if they had been made aware of the vices and taught what the meant and how to be in control of them the there is definitely the possibility of them having made a different choice. huh uh. the notion that EVERYONE would accept your idea is just crazy hon. totally aside from the fact that everyone would not accept it, but still be a good person, the BIG fact is that there would be some who would not accept it and do evil, simply because they ARE evil. the idea that some are not inherently evil is ridiculous on its face Hi Iamjumbo, it is my belief that we are all on this world to have experiences so that we might learn from these experiences. Do you think differently? Are we here accidently or by Divine purpose? This is a school for Soul, why are we here, have you thought about it? I'd be interested to know what you think. Life is not haphazard in my opinion. There is meaning behind it all. What do you suppose it is?
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 24, 2015 7:37:45 GMT
huh uh. the notion that EVERYONE would accept your idea is just crazy hon. totally aside from the fact that everyone would not accept it, but still be a good person, the BIG fact is that there would be some who would not accept it and do evil, simply because they ARE evil. the idea that some are not inherently evil is ridiculous on its face Hi Iamjumbo, it is my belief that we are all on this world to have experiences so that we might learn from these experiences. Do you think differently? Are we here accidently or by Divine purpose? This is a school for Soul, why are we here, have you thought about it? I'd be interested to know what you think. Life is not haphazard in my opinion. There is meaning behind it all. What do you suppose it is? god put man here to care for his creation, and to serve him. had not adam sinned, there would have never been anyone else on earth. of course, that is something that i have never been able to get together. just this sunday, when i went to church, the sermon was about god's "plan". the bible says that, from the foundation of the world, the plan of sacrifice was made. god, being omnipotent, and omniscient, obviously knows EVERYTHING, which means that he knew that adam would sin, he planned to bring teh flood and only save noah, god knew that he would give hezekiah fifteen more years of life, etc etc etc. you have the free will to do as you like, but, god knew what you are going to do before he created the earth there isn't enough space on the board to go into it.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 24, 2015 23:03:28 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, it is my belief that we are all on this world to have experiences so that we might learn from these experiences. Do you think differently? Are we here accidently or by Divine purpose? This is a school for Soul, why are we here, have you thought about it? I'd be interested to know what you think. Life is not haphazard in my opinion. There is meaning behind it all. What do you suppose it is? god put man here to care for his creation, and to serve him. had not adam sinned, there would have never been anyone else on earth. of course, that is something that i have never been able to get together. just this sunday, when i went to church, the sermon was about god's "plan". the bible says that, from the foundation of the world, the plan of sacrifice was made. god, being omnipotent, and omniscient, obviously knows EVERYTHING, which means that he knew that adam would sin, he planned to bring teh flood and only save noah, god knew that he would give hezekiah fifteen more years of life, etc etc etc. you have the free will to do as you like, but, god knew what you are going to do before he created the earth there isn't enough space on the board to go into it. Hi Iamjumbo, that ofcourse is supposition. Who really knows what is on God's mind? We are not on the same level. We can only suppose with our ignorant minds. Has the Garden of Eden ever been found? Because I believe that there are other dimensions, perhaps the Garden of Eden was on the dimension above the earth plane, and maybe when Adam & Eve were cast out because of disobedience, this is where they ended up, here on earth. This is a theory that has been bandied around.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 25, 2015 12:06:31 GMT
god put man here to care for his creation, and to serve him. had not adam sinned, there would have never been anyone else on earth. of course, that is something that i have never been able to get together. just this sunday, when i went to church, the sermon was about god's "plan". the bible says that, from the foundation of the world, the plan of sacrifice was made. god, being omnipotent, and omniscient, obviously knows EVERYTHING, which means that he knew that adam would sin, he planned to bring teh flood and only save noah, god knew that he would give hezekiah fifteen more years of life, etc etc etc. you have the free will to do as you like, but, god knew what you are going to do before he created the earth there isn't enough space on the board to go into it. Hi Iamjumbo, that ofcourse is supposition. Who really knows what is on God's mind? We are not on the same level. We can only suppose with our ignorant minds. Has the Garden of Eden ever been found? Because I believe that there are other dimensions, perhaps the Garden of Eden was on the dimension above the earth plane, and maybe when Adam & Eve were cast out because of disobedience, this is where they ended up, here on earth. This is a theory that has been bandied around. some clowns sit around hallucinating all kinds of "theories". that is one which has absolutely NOTHING to recommend it. genesis is quite explicit
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 21, 2015 14:27:22 GMT
Excerpt from Hilary Clinton's new book (from Hillary Clinton's new autobiography, “The Truth Will Always Prevail”, soon to be released.) "Some years ago, nearing dinner time at the White House, our regular cook fell ill and they had to get a replacement on short notice. He wasn't the smartest looking guy. In fact he seemed a bit dirty. Bill voiced his concerns to his Chief of Staff, but was told that this was the best they could do on such short notice. "Just before the meal, Bill noticed the cook sticking his finger in the soup to taste it and again complained to the Chief Of Staff, but he was assured that many Chefs did that. "Dinner went okay, although Bill thought that the soup tasted a little funny. By the time dessert came, he started to have stomach cramps and nausea. It was getting worse and worse until finally the President had to excuse himself. "By now, he was desperately ill with violent cramps and was so disorientated that he couldn't remember which door led to the bathroom. He was on the verge of passing out from the pain when he finally found a door that opened. "As he unzipped his trousers and ran in, he realized to his horror that he had stumbled into Monica Lewinsky's office with his trousers around his knees. “As he was about to pass out, this naive girl bent over him and heard President Clinton whisper in a barely audible voice, "Sack my cook" "And that is how the whole misunderstanding occurred."
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 22, 2015 9:47:00 GMT
Excerpt from Hilary Clinton's new book (from Hillary Clinton's new autobiography, “The Truth Will Always Prevail”, soon to be released.) "Some years ago, nearing dinner time at the White House, our regular cook fell ill and they had to get a replacement on short notice. He wasn't the smartest looking guy. In fact he seemed a bit dirty. Bill voiced his concerns to his Chief of Staff, but was told that this was the best they could do on such short notice. "Just before the meal, Bill noticed the cook sticking his finger in the soup to taste it and again complained to the Chief Of Staff, but he was assured that many Chefs did that. "Dinner went okay, although Bill thought that the soup tasted a little funny. By the time dessert came, he started to have stomach cramps and nausea. It was getting worse and worse until finally the President had to excuse himself. "By now, he was desperately ill with violent cramps and was so disorientated that he couldn't remember which door led to the bathroom. He was on the verge of passing out from the pain when he finally found a door that opened. "As he unzipped his trousers and ran in, he realized to his horror that he had stumbled into Monica Lewinsky's office with his trousers around his knees. “As he was about to pass out, this naive girl bent over him and heard President Clinton whisper in a barely audible voice, "Sack my cook" "And that is how the whole misunderstanding occurred." now, THAT seems reasonable. that's the best version that i've seen. of course, it doesn't cover the other times in the oval office and such when she sacked his cook
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Apr 22, 2015 11:48:29 GMT
Excerpt from Hilary Clinton's new book (from Hillary Clinton's new autobiography, “The Truth Will Always Prevail”, soon to be released.) "Some years ago, nearing dinner time at the White House, our regular cook fell ill and they had to get a replacement on short notice. He wasn't the smartest looking guy. In fact he seemed a bit dirty. Bill voiced his concerns to his Chief of Staff, but was told that this was the best they could do on such short notice. "Just before the meal, Bill noticed the cook sticking his finger in the soup to taste it and again complained to the Chief Of Staff, but he was assured that many Chefs did that. "Dinner went okay, although Bill thought that the soup tasted a little funny. By the time dessert came, he started to have stomach cramps and nausea. It was getting worse and worse until finally the President had to excuse himself. "By now, he was desperately ill with violent cramps and was so disorientated that he couldn't remember which door led to the bathroom. He was on the verge of passing out from the pain when he finally found a door that opened. "As he unzipped his trousers and ran in, he realized to his horror that he had stumbled into Monica Lewinsky's office with his trousers around his knees. “As he was about to pass out, this naive girl bent over him and heard President Clinton whisper in a barely audible voice, "Sack my cook" "And that is how the whole misunderstanding occurred." now, THAT seems reasonable. that's the best version that i've seen. of course, it doesn't cover the other times in the oval office and such when she sacked his cook Hi Iamjumbo, I haven't had such a good laugh for ages. Is Hilary Clinton cracking a joke or is she speaking for real. It's very funny. that's for sure!!! Thanks for the laugh.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 22, 2015 12:28:47 GMT
now, THAT seems reasonable. that's the best version that i've seen. of course, it doesn't cover the other times in the oval office and such when she sacked his cook Hi Iamjumbo, I haven't had such a good laugh for ages. Is Hilary Clinton cracking a joke or is she speaking for real. It's very funny. that's for sure!!! Thanks for the laugh. you're welcome hon, but, i was just commenting on ba's posting the story. i seriously doubt that it is actually in a book. it sounds like something out of the onion
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Apr 22, 2015 20:29:36 GMT
Hi Iamjumbo, I haven't had such a good laugh for ages. Is Hilary Clinton cracking a joke or is she speaking for real. It's very funny. that's for sure!!! Thanks for the laugh. you're welcome hon, but, i was just commenting on ba's posting the story. i seriously doubt that it is actually in a book. it sounds like something out of the onion Hi Iamjumbo, I realised after I posted, that it was Bush Admirer who sent it in, then when I read it again, and saw that the book hadn't been printed yet, the penny dropped. It's certainly a very clever and funny story, that's for sure.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 24, 2015 10:33:33 GMT
you're welcome hon, but, i was just commenting on ba's posting the story. i seriously doubt that it is actually in a book. it sounds like something out of the onion Hi Iamjumbo, I realised after I posted, that it was Bush Admirer who sent it in, then when I read it again, and saw that the book hadn't been printed yet, the penny dropped. It's certainly a very clever and funny story, that's for sure. it's damn sure funny, and really is clever. it's just not something that hillary would say. I would, but hillary wouldn't
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