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Post by june on Dec 22, 2010 17:56:22 GMT
I don't know fret apart from his posts here.
I guess he causes issues elsewhere because he is jumped on here before he posts. Gabriel has been ruder than fret to other posters and yet he is tolerated when fret is not. I don't understand it and makes me cringe to read.
This is what I mean about inter board stuff carrying over here. Can we judge people on what they say and do here, not what they have done elsewhere.
Or, Lin, if youd rather fret was not here then ban him?
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Post by fretslider on Dec 22, 2010 17:56:24 GMT
I think that comes under personal slights pumpkinette. I've had a LOT worse. When it comes down to it, God's the 1 who knows about what I am or am not 100%. He's the 1 whose view counts! ;D Oh dear! Bad news Pumpkin.... there is no god. Someone made it up to stop you all going nuts
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Post by june on Dec 22, 2010 18:22:07 GMT
;D That shows the difference neatly, questioning if there is a god is very different than questioning someones belief. However, nothing wrong in pointing out contradictions to faith, if someone claims they are and yet act differently. It all depends how it's done. A little respect helps. I've had a LOT worse. When it comes down to it, God's the 1 who knows about what I am or am not 100%. He's the 1 whose view counts! ;D Oh dear! Bad news Pumpkin.... there is no god. Someone made it up to stop you all going nuts
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Post by fretslider on Dec 22, 2010 18:24:31 GMT
I don't know fret apart from his posts here. I guess he causes issues elsewhere because he is jumped on here before he posts. Gabriel has been ruder than fret to other posters and yet he is tolerated when fret is not. I don't understand it and makes me cringe to read. This is what I mean about inter board stuff carrying over here. Can we judge people on what they say and do here, not what they have done elsewhere. Or, Lin, if youd rather fret was not here then ban him? Thank you, June. I don't mention JT in my posts here. There is one who does, and we know who that someone is. As far as I'm concerned there is no 'inter-board' thing. But that's only me. I have incurred the wrath of she who must be obeyed. I don't do obedience, but I do mark rules.
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Post by beth on Dec 22, 2010 19:12:01 GMT
Gabriel's issues are personal. I know it, fret knows it, both Lin and Mike know it and ... especially, Gabriel knows it. If we were to retaliate by spewing all we know, Gabe would have no choice but to pack it in, put it away and take care of his own turf. My thought would be to ask why? Why does Gabriel need to be handled with kid gloves ... petted, pampered and indulged? Does anyone know?
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Post by june on Dec 22, 2010 19:19:40 GMT
I don't know JT or the drama. It's all only words on a screen anyway and not life or death! Why can't people just have fun? I don't know fret apart from his posts here. I guess he causes issues elsewhere because he is jumped on here before he posts. Gabriel has been ruder than fret to other posters and yet he is tolerated when fret is not. I don't understand it and makes me cringe to read. This is what I mean about inter board stuff carrying over here. Can we judge people on what they say and do here, not what they have done elsewhere. Or, Lin, if youd rather fret was not here then ban him? Thank you, June. I don't mention JT in my posts here. There is one who does, and we know who that someone is. As far as I'm concerned there is no 'inter-board' thing. But that's only me. I have incurred the wrath of she who must be obeyed. I don't do obedience, but I do mark rules.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 20:05:44 GMT
;D That shows the difference neatly, questioning if there is a god is very different than questioning someones belief. However, nothing wrong in pointing out contradictions to faith, if someone claims they are and yet act differently. It all depends how it's done. A little respect helps. Oh dear! Bad news Pumpkin.... there is no god. Someone made it up to stop you all going nuts I dunno. Anyone knowing Pumpkin's past (and everyone should do) would find that a highly inflammatory post, far worse than my own, and having nothing to do with religious tolerance.
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 20:08:30 GMT
What about peoples' religious beliefs NOT being questioned? I.e., stuff like "you SAY you're a...fill in the blank with a religion". I find this ###*** VERY upsetting. Yeah, that'd be me. Don't say stuff that reflects a very unchristianlike attitude and I won't question the validity of your religious boastings. Now, please, take me back to vendetta where we can hash this out like the uncivilized christians we are. I posted this when I was in 1 of those "want to fight" moods. Reading it later, I was like... . I'm still working on those "want to fight" moods. Thank God you and no one else online knew me even 10 years ago! It was a TON worse then and even worse before that! Sorry I brought this up.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 20:11:13 GMT
Yeah, that'd be me. Don't say stuff that reflects a very unchristianlike attitude and I won't question the validity of your religious boastings. Now, please, take me back to vendetta where we can hash this out like the uncivilized christians we are. I posted this when I was in 1 of those "want to fight" moods. Reading it later, I was like... . I'm still working on those "want to fight" moods. Thank God you and no one else online knew me even 10 years ago! It was a TON worse then and even worse before that! Sorry I brought this up. I'm really not your enemy, Pumpkin. And, there's no need to be sorry.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 20:12:40 GMT
It's all only words on a screen anyway and not life or death! Why can't people just have fun? Isn't contraversy fun?
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 20:13:05 GMT
I've had a LOT worse. When it comes down to it, God's the 1 who knows about what I am or am not 100%. He's the 1 whose view counts! ;D Oh dear! Bad news Pumpkin.... there is no god. Someone made it up to stop you all going nuts I know God is real and love Him. A lot of others know He's real also. I'll defend Him every chance I get because I'm sick of the lies out there that are VERY popular with so many. I do have struggles with Him, but that doesn't take away my love. He's kept me sane after the murders in my family and helped me and many others in so many ways. He gave us the easiest way possible to be saved! He could have just said you're all trash and burn in hell. Instead He sent His Son. ;D He also holds everyone accountable and won't let people get away with their evils if they never repent. I'm very glad He's like this and doesn't let people off the hook INCLUDING me. He gets on me when I need to do more work on my faults, etc. and I love that. If He didn't care He wouldn't bother. I know He's real. Thanks for listening.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 20:15:06 GMT
Gabriel's issues are personal. I know it, fret knows it, both Lin and Mike know it and ... especially, Gabriel knows it. If we were to retaliate by spewing all we know, Gabe would have no choice but to pack it in, put it away and take care of his own turf. My thought would be to ask why? Why does Gabriel need to be handled with kid gloves ... petted, pampered and indulged? Does anyone know? I think Gabe's sense of humour is oftentimes misunderstood. I haven't seen him (or Fret for that matter) post anything so bad as to be banned for it................ granted, I don't read everything.
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 20:15:19 GMT
Gabriel's issues are personal. I know it, fret knows it, both Lin and Mike know it and ... especially, Gabriel knows it. If we were to retaliate by spewing all we know, Gabe would have no choice but to pack it in, put it away and take care of his own turf. My thought would be to ask why? Why does Gabriel need to be handled with kid gloves ... petted, pampered and indulged? Does anyone know? You're showing a pattern of keeping this ###*** going. Not long ago you said to Gabriel how he should let things go, etc. Please take your own advice. ;D
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 20:15:54 GMT
Gabriel's issues are personal. I know it, fret knows it, both Lin and Mike know it and ... especially, Gabriel knows it. If we were to retaliate by spewing all we know, Gabe would have no choice but to pack it in, put it away and take care of his own turf. My thought would be to ask why? Why does Gabriel need to be handled with kid gloves ... petted, pampered and indulged? Does anyone know? I think Gabe's sense of humour is oftentimes misunderstood. I haven't seen him (or Fret for that matter) post anything so bad as to be banned for it................ granted, I don't read everything. I'm proud to call Gabriel a friend. ;D
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 20:24:48 GMT
I think Gabe's sense of humour is oftentimes misunderstood. I haven't seen him (or Fret for that matter) post anything so bad as to be banned for it................ granted, I don't read everything. I'm proud to call Gabriel a friend. ;D He's only ever been very kind to me.
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Post by june on Dec 22, 2010 20:36:39 GMT
My mistake for mentioning it but there was to me at least an issue in how two similar posters are treated.
Can we please not make ths too personal in the "I like Bob" "Bob is a moron" type vein plase.
No one has but, just incase we wander down that path......
ta! ;D
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Post by june on Dec 22, 2010 20:40:08 GMT
It's all only words on a screen anyway and not life or death! Why can't people just have fun? Isn't contraversy fun? only when done with style
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 20:53:45 GMT
My mistake for mentioning it but there was to me at least an issue in how two similar posters are treated. Can we please not make ths too personal in the "I like Bob" "Bob is a moron" type vein plase. No one has but, just incase we wander down that path...... ta! ;D Fret has only ever been nice to me too.
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 22, 2010 20:59:42 GMT
I try hard to separate out my personal feelings from my sense of responsibility as a board owner.
Sometimes I've had to tell off good friends when they've behaved in what I thought was an inappropriate way.
Sometimes I've complimented personal enemies when they've done something good.
I do try to separate out my personal feelings and I also never allow my disagreement with what a poster says to make me incapable of seeing the quality of his or her contributions to the board.
If anyone thinks I'm politically correct or a deranged granny well I'm not.
The simple fact is that the feuding, racism, religious bigotry and personal abuse has now cost me several valued members, including a highly valued member of staff.
I'm NOT prepared to sit back and let that trend continue.
That's all.
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Post by june on Dec 22, 2010 21:43:05 GMT
Unless anyone has anymore ideas for improvements to add the Mod team is proposing to close this thread at 10.30GMT.
get in now while it's hot!
Thanks
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