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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 12:43:36 GMT
This is just another "beat 'em up" thread ... taking the place of the other bat'n' brawl thread and no more important than ... well .... a song by John Lennon. full of sound and fury and ... you know the rest. jmo Well I have asked repeatedly for input. Haven't gotten anywhere. Seems you are right. Just more of the same. I'm a fairly patient person and I'm getting tired of this. I can work to make the board better for everyone or not. Lin has made her feelings extremely clear. It doesn't seem any of you have heard her either. Personally I don't care if you pay attention to me. Most of you don't know me or owe me a thing. The same can not be said of Lin. If you want a board that is an enjoyable place to come to and debate you are being asked for feedback and your input now. If not....like she has made clear.....she can walk away and you can all continue to bicker somewhere else. I think your thoughts on all this are great! So are Wonder Woman's and BushAdmirer's! I'm NOT being sarcastic, I mean this!
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Post by fretslider on Dec 22, 2010 13:18:07 GMT
fret. Possum, you're such a productive member of society. We all know that you only have the best interests of this site in your mind when you post. Bless. Gabriella, why do you attack your fellow staff members here? I know I'm not the only one who receives your unhinged rants by PM I suppose you think that's productive Musical maestro.... definitely the joke of the year
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Post by firedancer on Dec 22, 2010 15:04:14 GMT
I disagree with Firedancer who says that a thread should immediately be switched to Vendetta when it becomes personal. Those personal attacks are most often one sided. One angry member should not be able to move the entire thread to Vendetta because of his or her rantings.
Sorry - I should clarify. I meant that when a thread descends into mutual personal attacks. One person being personal in an objectionable way, I would warn and then ban if the warning is ignored.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2010 15:14:32 GMT
Some of us were debating the issues withut resorting to abuse.
So....
....And I'm not sure whether to whisper this in embarrassment
....Or SHOUT to get attention
....but could someone please tell me how to get into Vendetta?
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 15:19:20 GMT
Some of us were debating the issues withut resorting to abuse. So.... ....And I'm not sure whether to whisper this in embarrassment ....Or SHOUT to get attention ....but could someone please tell me how to get into Vendetta? I guess the staff gives out that info. However, the thread is locked so you wouldn't be able to comment on it anyway.
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Post by sadie1263 on Dec 22, 2010 15:31:14 GMT
Vendetta is an area of the board that doesn't show up to everyone on the board. When a thread is moved there....the people involved in the thread can pm any of the moderators for the password to that area. There they can go to their thread and pretty much slug it out. We usually allow that to go on until things are settled. If after awhile it is just going no where and it is the same stuff over and over....the thread will be locked.
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Post by sadie1263 on Dec 22, 2010 15:39:03 GMT
I think we've had some great ideas kicked around. Many of you sent pm's and I think there are some things we are going to try.
I think this is a wonderful board filled with great posters and colorful characters. I think things got out of hand and for that I apologize.
No one wants a board where there are a lot of restrictions or censorship. We will try and keep the board that way. However, we will do our best to not allow abuse enter into the threads.
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 15:47:45 GMT
fret. Possum, you're such a productive member of society. We all know that you only have the best interests of this site in your mind when you post. Bless. Gabriella, why do you attack your fellow staff members here? I know I'm not the only one who receives your unhinged rants by PM I suppose you think that's productive Musical maestro.... definitely the joke of the year
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 15:51:12 GMT
When have I ever said I don't want controversy or dispute? There's not much point in a message board where everyone thinks the same (I've belonged to a couple and have long since stopped posting on them.) On the other hand, I will NOT tolerate personal abuse, racism, religious bigotry or prejudice against people because of their gender or sexual orientation. I'm going to try and behave like a dictator in the short term. If that doesn't work don't be surprised if I just walk away from a lost cause. What about peoples' religious beliefs NOT being questioned? I.e., stuff like "you SAY you're a...fill in the blank with a religion". I find this ###*** VERY upsetting.
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Post by june on Dec 22, 2010 16:09:25 GMT
I think that comes under personal slights pumpkinette.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 16:53:47 GMT
When have I ever said I don't want controversy or dispute? There's not much point in a message board where everyone thinks the same (I've belonged to a couple and have long since stopped posting on them.) On the other hand, I will NOT tolerate personal abuse, racism, religious bigotry or prejudice against people because of their gender or sexual orientation. I'm going to try and behave like a dictator in the short term. If that doesn't work don't be surprised if I just walk away from a lost cause. What about peoples' religious beliefs NOT being questioned? I.e., stuff like "you SAY you're a...fill in the blank with a religion". I find this ###*** VERY upsetting. Yeah, that'd be me. Don't say stuff that reflects a very unchristianlike attitude and I won't question the validity of your religious boastings. Now, please, take me back to vendetta where we can hash this out like the uncivilized christians we are.
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 22, 2010 16:56:39 GMT
Right, Fret, let's get something cleared up. It was me who gave Gabe the title of musical maestro. That's because I like light-hearted titles and stuff like that.
Point number two - you are a co-owner of another board. As such, you ought to know better than most about the need for self-discipline and self-control.
Unfortunately you don't seem to think that you have ANY obligation to follow my rules when you condescend to come on here.
I have asked you privately to try and control yourself and you just refuse to accept that you've done anything wrong. It's always someone ELSE'S fault and never YOURS.
I'm asking you nicely to stop this nonsense, please.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Dec 22, 2010 16:57:23 GMT
I think that comes under personal slights pumpkinette. I take umbrage with the good lord's children (who have done nothing beyond slighting people personally) being referred to as "IT".
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 22, 2010 17:01:06 GMT
For what it's worth I was NOT referring to Wonder Woman or June when I made my comments.
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Post by fretslider on Dec 22, 2010 17:26:13 GMT
Right, Fret, let's get something cleared up. It was me who gave Gabe the title of musical maestro. That's because I like light-hearted titles and stuff like that. Point number two - you are a co-owner of another board. As such, you ought to know better than most about the need for self-discipline and self-control. Unfortunately you don't seem to think that you have ANY obligation to follow my rules when you condescend to come on here. I have asked you privately to try and control yourself and you just refuse to accept that you've done anything wrong. It's always someone ELSE'S fault and never YOURS. I'm asking you nicely to stop this nonsense, please. Right, Lin lets put that into context, its a damned good laugh. Does he realise its at his expense? I haven't broken the rules, you just don't like what I have said and that's fine. "Unfortunately you don't seem to think that you have ANY obligation to follow my rules when you condescend to come on here. " Ok show me where I have broken the rules. The last time I asked you this you went all quiet. Again, show me where I have done something wrong. If you can't.... What is someone elses fault? Over to you.
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 22, 2010 17:30:46 GMT
Right, Fret, let's get something cleared up. It was me who gave Gabe the title of musical maestro. That's because I like light-hearted titles and stuff like that. Point number two - you are a co-owner of another board. As such, you ought to know better than most about the need for self-discipline and self-control. Unfortunately you don't seem to think that you have ANY obligation to follow my rules when you condescend to come on here. I have asked you privately to try and control yourself and you just refuse to accept that you've done anything wrong. It's always someone ELSE'S fault and never YOURS. I'm asking you nicely to stop this nonsense, please. Right, Lin lets put that into context, its a damned good laugh. Does he realise its at his expense? I haven't broken the rules, you just don't like what I have said and that's fine. "Unfortunately you don't seem to think that you have ANY obligation to follow my rules when you condescend to come on here. " Ok show me where I have broken the rules. The last time I asked you this you went all quiet. Again, show me where I have done something wrong. If you can't.... What is someone elses fault? Over to you. You've broken the rules on LOTS of occasions. You've broken the rules on racist postings, on religious bigotry and on personally abusive postings. No, you're NOT the only one and I've had to tell other members off about it as well. Basically I've asked you to stop and you've told me you don't think you've done anything wrong and you don't accept that I, the board owner, have any right to tell you to follow the rules. Now please, try and show some self-discipline and self-control for once in your life! And yes, that DOES include NOT trying to provoke Gabriel.
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 17:44:57 GMT
What about peoples' religious beliefs NOT being questioned? I.e., stuff like "you SAY you're a...fill in the blank with a religion". I find this ###*** VERY upsetting. Yeah, that'd be me. Don't say stuff that reflects a very unchristianlike attitude and I won't question the validity of your religious boastings. Now, please, take me back to vendetta where we can hash this out like the uncivilized christians we are. That's OK. I'll pass. I've been starting to get tired of going back and forth for a while now, which for me is progress. I'm willing to let this 1 go as when it comes down to it it's God who knows about me 100% for sure. He's the 1 whose view matters on this issue the most.
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 17:49:24 GMT
I think that comes under personal slights pumpkinette. I take umbrage with the good lord's children (who have done nothing beyond slighting people personally) being referred to as "IT". Can we agree to disagree on this 1 please? Thanks!
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Post by pumpkinette on Dec 22, 2010 17:50:30 GMT
I think that comes under personal slights pumpkinette. I've had a LOT worse. When it comes down to it, God's the 1 who knows about what I am or am not 100%. He's the 1 whose view counts! ;D
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Post by fretslider on Dec 22, 2010 17:53:52 GMT
Right, Lin lets put that into context, its a damned good laugh. Does he realise its at his expense? I haven't broken the rules, you just don't like what I have said and that's fine. "Unfortunately you don't seem to think that you have ANY obligation to follow my rules when you condescend to come on here. " Ok show me where I have broken the rules. The last time I asked you this you went all quiet. Again, show me where I have done something wrong. If you can't.... What is someone elses fault? Over to you. You've broken the rules on LOTS of occasions. You've broken the rules on racist postings, on religious bigotry and on personally abusive postings. No, you're NOT the only one and I've had to tell other members off about it as well. Basically I've asked you to stop and you've told me you don't think you've done anything wrong and you don't accept that I, the board owner, have any right to tell you to follow the rules. Now please, try and show some self-discipline and self-control for once in your life! And yes, that DOES include NOT trying to provoke Gabriel. No I haven't. and you apparently haven't a scintilla of evidence to back up what you claim. Here's a controlled question for you: where have I broken your rules? As for Gabriel, do you really think posting a song which consisted of an indelicate fusion of genres as the last desperate gasp of a has-been is provocation? Do you really suppose it was (musically) understood? I suppose you do. You know the history, and so do quite a few others. Nuff said. I won't mention the abuse you've posted in the past on our board.
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