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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 8, 2010 15:38:48 GMT
Some countries don't have legislation to punish incest.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_incest QUOTE: In Brazil, incest is considered any kind of sexual interaction between two blood related humans being. It has no criminal punishment if the involved are with age over 14 years, capable of acting upon their legal rights and in consentment that this relationship is absent of any kind of coersion or fraude. An uncle or aunt is allowed to have a relationship with a nephew or niece provided that they have a health check. In IndiaIndian legal statutes do not contain any specific provisions against incest. However, among certain groups of Hindus, marriage within the gotra (a very loosely defined extended family) is frowned upon and may even result in honor killings. Conversely, marriages among cousins is not only tolerated, but encouraged amongst Muslim communities In PortugalIncest is not specifically prohibited under Portuguese law. In Russia, consensual sex between adults, including incest, is not a crime. However, under the Family Code of Russia, persons who are related lineally, siblings, half-siblings, and a stepparent and a stepchild may not marry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2010 15:54:14 GMT
Pumpkinette - I'm not sure that "bothered" is entirely fair; I've never seen a need to research it and haven't seen any articles suggesting that incest can mess up the lives of consenting adults. If it does, I'd be inclined to place the blame at the door of a society that views the act with such repulsion. It can't be much fun to have to live in fear of your secret being discovered, let alone live with the condemnation that your relationship is bound to attract.
No doubt you will be able to enlighten me with some academic research proving otherwise!
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Post by mouse on Oct 8, 2010 16:07:56 GMT
one of the problems faced by reuniting long lost siblings .....is sibling and parental sexual attraction some one who is social services and in the adoption bussiness for SS was telling me all about it...that reunited families quite often have this to deal with..ie a long lost daughter can resemble the mother when younger and the father reacts and vice versa with mothers and sons thats apart from grand parents and brothers fancying sisters etc.... and while most people would find it quite revolting there is always the minority who cannot or will not walk away incest though apears to happen for a number of reasons..non of them complicated...but this week has been a bit of an eye opener
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Post by pumpkinette on Oct 8, 2010 16:59:27 GMT
Pumpkinette - I'm not sure that "bothered" is entirely fair; I've never seen a need to research it and haven't seen any articles suggesting that incest can mess up the lives of consenting adults. If it does, I'd be inclined to place the blame at the door of a society that views the act with such repulsion. It can't be much fun to have to live in fear of your secret being discovered, let alone live with the condemnation that your relationship is bound to attract. No doubt you will be able to enlighten me with some academic research proving otherwise! Why does it need to be academic? You can always go to a meeting of incest survivors to find out 1st hand what it does to people. It's always been funny to me how this information has to be a certain "kind" for people. It's like with alcoholism. A big 1st step in learning about that is to go to any Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. You'll interact with the people instead of with a book. Hearing 1st hand testimonies is a great thing and you can learn a ton from them. Academic research is great, but you don't always get the FULL picture. Also, the fact is some things will always be evil no matter how people try to excuse them, rationalize them, deny them, etc. Incest is 1 of them. It's even WORSE when it's consensual.
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Post by pumpkinette on Oct 8, 2010 17:02:01 GMT
Some countries don't have legislation to punish incest.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_incest QUOTE: In Brazil, incest is considered any kind of sexual interaction between two blood related humans being. It has no criminal punishment if the involved are with age over 14 years, capable of acting upon their legal rights and in consentment that this relationship is absent of any kind of coersion or fraude. An uncle or aunt is allowed to have a relationship with a nephew or niece provided that they have a health check. In IndiaIndian legal statutes do not contain any specific provisions against incest. However, among certain groups of Hindus, marriage within the gotra (a very loosely defined extended family) is frowned upon and may even result in honor killings. Conversely, marriages among cousins is not only tolerated, but encouraged amongst Muslim communities In PortugalIncest is not specifically prohibited under Portuguese law. In Russia, consensual sex between adults, including incest, is not a crime. However, under the Family Code of Russia, persons who are related lineally, siblings, half-siblings, and a stepparent and a stepchild may not marry. Slavery was once legal in the US also. This information is just more proof that some evil things are legal. Thanks, though, for this information as it is interesting on the surface. ;D
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Post by pumpkinette on Oct 8, 2010 19:20:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2010 19:21:02 GMT
I've quickly googled for incest survivors groups, and the first three I opened were set up for people abused as children. That isn't the kind of thing I was talking about. I was thinking about the case in this thread; two people who initally didn't even know they were related. Or even perhaps step siblings who formed deep relationships, perhaps after a period of separation. I don't understand what is inherently "evil" about that if they decide not to breed, and would be interested to find out.
As for academic research - well, it has the big advantage of being impartial, so the researcher can balance the positive against the negative. You can't just form a conclusion that an act is inherently bad if you limit your experiences to the ones that have failed!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2010 19:31:29 GMT
Nowhere have I said that consensual incest is great. It certainly isn't great in the situations where there is sex between an adult and a young person they are supposed to be nurturing. It isn't great in any family really, because of the need to keep relationships between siblings non-sexual to guard against abuse. It is just that I'm not sure what is inherently wrong if two half or even full siblings form a non-breeding relationship in adulthood - especially if they didn't even know of their blood ties!
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Post by riotgrrl on Oct 8, 2010 19:49:01 GMT
Nowhere have I said that consensual incest is great. It certainly isn't great in the situations where there is sex between an adult and a young person they are supposed to be nurturing. It isn't great in any family really, because of the need to keep relationships between siblings non-sexual to guard against abuse. It is just that I'm not sure what is inherently wrong if two half or even full siblings form a non-breeding relationship in adulthood - especially if they didn't even know of their blood ties! It's wrong because it's icky.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2010 21:18:12 GMT
;D
As I said in an earlier post, it makes me feel a bit queezy too!
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Post by pumpkinette on Oct 12, 2010 11:50:53 GMT
Nowhere have I said that consensual incest is great. It certainly isn't great in the situations where there is sex between an adult and a young person they are supposed to be nurturing. It isn't great in any family really, because of the need to keep relationships between siblings non-sexual to guard against abuse. It is just that I'm not sure what is inherently wrong if two half or even full siblings form a non-breeding relationship in adulthood - especially if they didn't even know of their blood ties! This couple FOUND OUT they were related and didn't even have the decency to separate! That makes it worse! You and I don't have to agree on this subject and I think we've gone around and around enough on here. Thank you, though, for not attacking me personally, making "jokes" ( : , etc., on this thread. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 6:23:37 GMT
Goodness, Pumkinette, that suggests that I attacked you personally and made jokes on another thread!
I do hope not.
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Post by pumpkinette on Oct 13, 2010 14:48:04 GMT
Goodness, Pumkinette, that suggests that I attacked you personally and made jokes on another thread! I do hope not. Dear skylark, sorry for any misunderstanding I caused! I was thanking you for NOT making "jokes" to me OR attacking me personally on this topic! Sorry if you thought that meant I WAS saying that about you!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 15:42:29 GMT
Just ignore me - I get paranoid!
But thanks
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Post by pumpkinette on Oct 13, 2010 16:52:58 GMT
Just ignore me - I get paranoid! But thanks No problem! ;D I've sure had my paranoid moments online! Some of them WERE for good cause, unfortunately. Some weren't. I've been going through what's called benzodiazepine withdrawl since January of last year and it hasn't helped my emotions at times! Plus have gone through other stresses. I've taken these things out on some online a few too many times... . I've also reacted too strongly at times to real personal attacks. Anyway, I understand so no hard feelings! ;D
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♫anna♫
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Dec 7, 2010 0:00:42 GMT
In the Bible marriage between first cousins was permitted. Jacob worked for his Uncle Laban 7 years ( Genesis 29, etc. ) on the condition that he could marry Laban's daughter Rachel. Laban, the brother of Jacob's mother agreed. After 7 years Jacob was tricked into marrying Laban's other daughter Leah, but Laban agreed to let him marry Rachel if he worked another 7 years for him.
The 12 male children that Rachel and Leah gave birth to founded the 12 tribes of Israel.
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