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Post by june on Jun 15, 2010 21:03:01 GMT
So World Cup talk - anyone have a hot tip/good guess for the winner?
Brazil won today - and are always in the running, but is SA the right climate for them? No one in Europe striking me as great and it's been a bit of a goal famine too - are they all being cautious?
Whaddyathink?
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 15, 2010 23:54:07 GMT
well I have changed the title - so if you are not interested in talking about the results of the world cup there is nothing for you here! Hope that helps
Since you're the author of this thread i respect your right to change the thread title! I personally feel that if you wish to instill enthusiasm or at least some modest interest for football/soccer in the US and other bastions of low interest for football, you'd let these people comment here! Just my opinion!   |
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 15, 2010 23:58:37 GMT
The last time I checked, the purpose of a discussion board was debate and discussion. If you put up a topic here I think it's an invitation for members to give their opinions. Please let me know if I'm wrong about this.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 16, 2010 0:20:34 GMT
So World Cup talk - anyone have a hot tip/good guess for the winner? Brazil won today - and are always in the running, but is SA the right climate for them? No one in Europe striking me as great and it's been a bit of a goal famine too - are they all being cautious? Whaddyathink?
Brazil.......... 2 : 1 North Korea
Côte d’Ivoire 0 : 0 Portugal
New Zealand 1 : 1 Slovakia
I think the fact that the North Koreans could score a single goal against Brazil and the Brazilians only scored twice is a VERY
bad omen for Brazil! Mighty Portugal couldn't do anything against Côte d'Ivoire and that makes them look bad too! Spain is supposed to have a strong team this year! They play against Switzerland tomorrow/Wednesday!
HEY Germany beat mighty Austrailia 4-0! I actually put a German flag on my car after the win, although i like the Australians too! I think i may be sucumbing to this football/soccer jingoism mania! I'll be diagnosed with a split personality, if the USA and Germany are the 2 finalists! Heaven help me!  ___________________________________________________ ![]() _________ |
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 16, 2010 0:35:42 GMT
The last time I checked, the purpose of a discussion board was debate and discussion. If you put up a topic here I think it's an invitation for members to give their opinions. Please let me know if I'm wrong about this.
I love your input here and if June doesn't acquiesce to my humble protest a few posts back i'll put up another thread where you can post anything you want about SOCCER!! ( Yes! I speak American too! ...and YES!! I'll boycott this thread as being anti-free speech, if June doesn't let your voice be heard, without censorship!! ) |
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 16, 2010 1:13:23 GMT
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 16, 2010 1:27:38 GMT
Well thank you Anna.
It's not just soccer that I don't enjoy watching. I just don't see what the appeal is in soccer. There is a whole lot of running back and forth and hardly any scoring. What was the big deal about the USA tying England? There was no winner. Why would that be good for either team. Soccer is a weird sport.
There are other sports I find just as boring. Hockey has a large following in northern climates. It looks like soccer on ice to me. Boring.
Auto racing is another. Take the Indianapolis 500 which is the biggest auto race in the USA. Every year they go round and round on an oval track for 500 miles. They usually have some crashes and maybe a death or two. Winning has more to do with pit crews and automobile engineering than driving. It is Boring with a capital B.
Despite my lack of enthusiasm for those sports I am a big sports fan. My favorite sports are:
1. NBA Basketball - the players are so athletic and so talented. You can see their talent on the TV
2. Professional Cycling - especially the Tour de France because the TV satellite coverage is now so good. Thes are the best athletes in the world in terms of conditioning and suffering. Winning a major tour is a major achievement.
3. American Professional Football - The NFL only plays 16 games a year (aside from practice games) and there are too many player injuries. But the action is intense and exciting. There is a lot of scoring. The fans are totally involved.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 16, 2010 2:43:35 GMT
Well thank you Anna. It's not just soccer that I don't enjoy watching. I just don't see what the appeal is in soccer. There is a whole lot of running back and forth and hardly any scoring. What was the big deal about the USA tying England? There was no winner. Why would that be good for either team. Soccer is a weird sport. There are other sports I find just as boring. Hockey has a large following in northern climates. It looks like soccer on ice to me. Boring. Auto racing is another. Take the Indianapolis 500 which is the biggest auto race in the USA. Every year they go round and round on an oval track for 500 miles. They usually have some crashes and maybe a death or two. Winning has more to do with pit crews and automobile engineering than driving. It is Boring with a capital B. Despite my lack of enthusiasm for those sports I am a big sports fan. My favorite sports are: 1. NBA Basketball - the players are so athletic and so talented. You can see their talent on the TV 2. Professional Cycling - especially the Tour de France because the TV satellite coverage is now so good. Thes are the best athletes in the world in terms of conditioning and suffering. Winning a major tour is a major achievement. 3. American Professional Football - The NFL only plays 16 games a year (aside from practice games) and there are too many player injuries. But the action is intense and exciting. There is a lot of scoring. The fans are totally involved.
A friend of mine was involved with professional cycling! He told me about all the doping back then. I guess with the tests the cyclists have to stay off the testable stuff at least.
I get peeved with basketball when i hear the fans of a certain rapist, who paid his victim off, cheer him on. I like to play basketball though!
Yes! The US side of my family got me interested in Superbowls, etc.. Cute, how my relatives divide themselves up into Packer and Viking fans and the black sheep in our family is a Chicago Bear fan! WHAT A DISGRACE!! I have to be a Packer fan, if i know what's good for me, but being a Vikings fan is a forgivable offense in the non-Minnesota side of our family!
Soccer/European Football enthusiasm can infect you, if you start taking notice of it. I know what you mean about low scoring, but the World Cup match between Germany and Argentina had such an eerie suspense that high scoring basketball fans just don't get!
Every American should have felt indignation when the Italien team did a cheap shot on the US world cup player McBride in 2006!
Fortunately the referee noticed it, but unfortunately the Italien team continued their cheap shots in other matches and won the World Cup. |
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Post by june on Jun 16, 2010 7:59:28 GMT
The last time I checked, the purpose of a discussion board was debate and discussion. If you put up a topic here I think it's an invitation for members to give their opinions. Please let me know if I'm wrong about this. you are wrong about that. Hth. |
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Post by june on Jun 16, 2010 8:01:22 GMT
well I have changed the title - so if you are not interested in talking about the results of the world cup there is nothing for you here! Hope that helps
Since you're the author of this thread i respect your right to change the thread title! I personally feel that if you wish to instill enthusiasm or at least some modest interest for football/soccer in the US and other bastions of low interest for football, you'd let these people comment here! Just my opinion! I've no interest in coverting anyone to football, I just want to talk about this world cup. |
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Post by mouse on Jun 16, 2010 8:03:51 GMT
shant say a dickie bird.............................
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Post by randomvioce on Jun 16, 2010 9:39:32 GMT
I personally feel that if you wish to instill enthusiasm or at least some modest interest for football/soccer in the US and other bastions of low interest for football, you'd let these people comment here! Just my opinion! Why would we want to instill anything in people who have no interest in football? Most of the World is interested in football at the moment, every Country in the World has a league and has a team in the World Cup qualifiers, so what are the football people missing out on? There are people in England who don't like/understand/interested in football, yet we never try to convert them. So, why waste time trying to get someone who thinks the rules of football are messed up because the rules don't allow you to use your hands and counts basketball as a real sport? I couldn't care less if he watches football or not, nor do most of the World to be fair, we are not packing up and going home because some Amnericans are not interested. |
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 16, 2010 13:54:48 GMT
More Americans watched the US-England game on TV than watched either the ice hockey or the NBA basketball game.
With the growing number of Hispanics among the American population, I believe that the popularity of the game in the US will continue to grow.
Of course success on the pitch makes a lot of difference. The American women's soccer team have been one of the best in the world for a few years now while the men have got a long way to go before they could be seen in the same like.
On a general point - this IS a discussion board. I don't like muzzling anyone's opinion and as long as they don't cross certain lines pretty much anything goes here.
On the other hand, if people want to talk about the World Cup surely that should basically be about the games, the players, that sort of thing?
A lot of people (especially women - I'm probably much more of a 'sporty' girl than average to be honest) find soccer and indeed MOST sports deeply boring.
That's a point of view as well.
I can't understand the point of a bunch of overweight men dressing up in suits of armour and rushing about the field getting nowhere and basically looking like fat Daleks but I respect the fact that millions of Americans DO consider that sport.
If you took them out of their padding and asked them to play a game of rugby I doubt very much if they'd last five minutes.
Equally, hardly any NFL players are mobile enough to play soccer successfully (except perhaps the quarterbacks.)
They are slow, fat, and look like robots dressed up in tins of corned beef.
It doesn't strike me as a very MANLY game at all.
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Post by june on Jun 16, 2010 16:56:13 GMT
Spain lost!
Not sure who the favorite are now. Of course one loss means nothing at this stage......
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Post by june on Jun 16, 2010 16:58:33 GMT
shant say a dickie bird............................. gah! And now you have mentioned cricket!  ;D |
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 16, 2010 21:30:26 GMT
The last time I checked, the purpose of a discussion board was debate and discussion. If you put up a topic here I think it's an invitation for members to give their opinions. Please let me know if I'm wrong about this. you are wrong about that. Hth.
No this doesn't help! Are you the new admin here? I'm very disappointed with you, June, inviting everyone to comment here with the initial thread title: "Are We Interested in the World Cup?" and then reacting inappropriately to the Nays! This seems to be the first thread with an attempt to segregate posters and their viewpoints! I prefer free speech! |
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Post by june on Jun 16, 2010 21:49:52 GMT
you are wrong about that. Hth.
No this doesn't help! Are you the new admin here? I'm very disappointed with you, June, inviting everyone to comment here with the initial thread title: "Are We Interested in the World Cup" and then reacting inappropriately to the Nays! This seems to be the first thread with an attempt to segregate posters and their viewpoints! I prefer free speech! Anna I didn't ask if anyone was interested, I asked if you were excited. Quite different things. If you aren't really excited by football I didn't expect, encourage or want pages of posts running down football. That seems a rather puerile endeavour to me but, each to their own. It is a shame you feel that I have acted inappropriately and I hope you get over that but quite frankly this is a message board not the UN and the thread is a bit of fun. Getting huffy something so totally unimportant is, quite frankly, a bit silly. It's a tiny thread on the huge internet that I started to discuss the world cup. End Of. If you feel so strongly about giving people on here the opportunity to discuss why they don't like football I suggest you do as mentioned earlier and start your own. (and it's 'happy to help' - which I am ) |
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 17, 2010 1:35:59 GMT
OK June. Since I'm definitely not a World Cup fan (snooze) I'll leave this thread to you and yours.
I was attracted to this thread based on your original title because I find it amazing that soccer has a following. It is such a ho-hum sport.
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Post by june on Jun 17, 2010 4:49:56 GMT
I see Spain are blaming a woman for their defeat! Didn't know they had one playing!
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Post by mouse on Jun 17, 2010 8:46:48 GMT
shant say a dickie bird............................. gah! And now you have mentioned cricket! ;D he is retired ;D |
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Post by june on Jun 17, 2010 22:07:07 GMT
gah! And now you have mentioned cricket! ;D he is retired ;D and was quite nuts! |
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Post by june on Jun 17, 2010 22:08:43 GMT
So Greece, Agentina and Mexico all win today.
I have a soft spot for the Greek team. Never been overly excited by the south american's - too much hype!
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 18, 2010 0:05:49 GMT
Argentina are a lot better than Brazil who looked very ordinary against North Korea.
Mexico are flashy but lack substance.
Spain have flair but lack grit.
Holland could be dark horses.
England - well, you never know WHAT team will turn up wearing that shirt.
On their day they can beat anyone but they can lose to anyone too.
Japan and South Korea have been surprisingly good as well.
I have a feeling that Argentina are now the most likely team to win the World Cup.
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Post by trubble on Jun 18, 2010 8:15:39 GMT
Argentina are a lot better than Brazil who looked very ordinary against North Korea. Mexico are flashy but lack substance. Spain have flair but lack grit. Holland could be dark horses. England - well, you never know WHAT team will turn up wearing that shirt. On their day they can beat anyone but they can lose to anyone too. Japan and South Korea have been surprisingly good as well. I have a feeling that Argentina are now the most likely team to win the World Cup. England can beat anyone on their day? No. No, no, no.. I wish it were so, Lin. England is my first choice to win the Cup. I'm cheering for them all the way. But they are underdogs. |
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Post by trubble on Jun 18, 2010 8:26:09 GMT
OK June. Since I'm definitely not a World Cup fan (snooze) I'll leave this thread to you and yours. I was attracted to this thread based on your original title because I find it amazing that soccer has a following. It is such a ho-hum sport. Are you a baseball fan, BA? Because it's the same dynamic at work. I think soccer gets such a fanbase because people can play it in their back yards, on the street, even alone against a wall. You can be the poorest of the poor and still join in with it. Brazil is allegedly so good because so many boys have absolutely nothing but they can still play football on the beach or street and do - and so their skills develop to a very high level. The rules are simple and intuitive. The equipment is as cheap as you could wish for. You don't even need to own a ball, truth be told, you can improvise, but footballs are cheap as chips. And of course there are the infamous jumpers for goalposts. It's known as the working-man's game partly because it used to be affordable to watch your local and favourite team play and that accessibility made it popular too. It is, in fact, the everyman (and woman) game. In America, it just happens that baseball fulfills that role so Americans had no need for soccer, just as Europeans had no need for baseball. Just one of those things... like you saying potato and me saying potato.... |
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