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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 6, 2010 3:14:29 GMT
Wrong you are Beth. That cartoon is really on the money. CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and especially MSNBC and PBS are simply propaganda outlets for the DNC (Democratic National Committee). I think they must have a morning conference call with the DNC every day to get their marching orders. They have stooges like Keith Olbermann who simply put out the party line.
Fox is the only independent network that's not in the pocket of the Democrats. Their motto is 'fair and balanced news' and that really is what you get from Fox. You can't get that from the other networks because they're in the pocket of the Democrats.
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Post by clemiethedog on Mar 6, 2010 18:01:13 GMT
FOX News is accurately labeled "GOP News". Like much of the Murdoch empire (for example, the NY Post) it is run by right wing extremists.
MSNBC is the most liberal of the news organizations, with Ed Schultz, Keith Olberman, and Rachel Maddow airing one-hour commentary programs back-to-back-to-back. Unlike their counterparts at FOX, they are openly liberal and will criticize Democrats, including Obama, when necessary. FOX, in contrast, claims they are 'fair and balanced' and never said a disparaging word about their boy W. Worse yet, they implied that those who did criticize W or his wars were 'un-American' and un-patriotic. Assholes. Every single one of them.
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Post by beth on Mar 6, 2010 18:19:13 GMT
Wrong you are Beth. That cartoon is really on the money. CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and especially MSNBC and PBS are simply propaganda outlets for the DNC (Democratic National Committee). I think they must have a morning conference call with the DNC every day to get their marching orders. They have stooges like Keith Olbermann who simply put out the party line. Fox is the only independent network that's not in the pocket of the Democrats. Their motto is 'fair and balanced news' and that really is what you get from Fox. You can't get that from the other networks because they're in the pocket of the Democrats. das, you're so far off the mark here that you just further nullify any reason to take you seriously. As Clemie said, MSNBC does lean left, but their commentators give a much fairer presentation than you imply - plus, some of their daytime programming is quite conservative. Then, too, Tweety is in the middle of the evening lineuip and he's a wild card who calls 'em as he sees 'em - not always in favor of the Democrats. You may also want to keep in mind that FAUX News had a hand (and purse strings) in organizing and running the Tea Parties, which may have started out as a grass roots movement but did not stay that way for long. That means, Fox started trying to MAKE the news they were reporting. Shady, even for one of Rupert's one-sided media org..
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 6, 2010 20:09:42 GMT
Wrong you are Beth. That cartoon is really on the money. CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and especially MSNBC and PBS are simply propaganda outlets for the DNC (Democratic National Committee). I think they must have a morning conference call with the DNC every day to get their marching orders. They have stooges like Keith Olbermann who simply put out the party line. Fox is the only independent network that's not in the pocket of the Democrats. Their motto is 'fair and balanced news' and that really is what you get from Fox. You can't get that from the other networks because they're in the pocket of the Democrats. which of course is patently false, but what IS the irrefutable truth is the faux news is nothing but the broadcast arm of the lunatic fringe of the republican party. "fair and balanced" is just one of the lies that they spread. normal americans don't pay any attention to faux news. it has about five percent of the viewing audience at any particular time, unlike the REAL news outlets such as cbs
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 6, 2010 20:11:29 GMT
FOX News is accurately labeled "GOP News". Like much of the Murdoch empire (for example, the NY Post) it is run by right wing extremists. MSNBC is the most liberal of the news organizations, with Ed Schultz, Keith Olberman, and Rachel Maddow airing one-hour commentary programs back-to-back-to-back. Unlike their counterparts at FOX, they are openly liberal and will criticize Democrats, including Obama, when necessary. FOX, in contrast, claims they are 'fair and balanced' and never said a disparaging word about their boy W. Worse yet, they implied that those who did criticize W or his wars were 'un-American' and un-patriotic. Assholes. Every single one of them. the ONLY intelligent commentators at faux news are juan williams, alan colmes, and susan estrich. just a simple fact of life
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 6, 2010 20:14:03 GMT
Wrong you are Beth. That cartoon is really on the money. CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and especially MSNBC and PBS are simply propaganda outlets for the DNC (Democratic National Committee). I think they must have a morning conference call with the DNC every day to get their marching orders. They have stooges like Keith Olbermann who simply put out the party line. Fox is the only independent network that's not in the pocket of the Democrats. Their motto is 'fair and balanced news' and that really is what you get from Fox. You can't get that from the other networks because they're in the pocket of the Democrats. das, you're so far off the mark here that you just further nullify any reason to take you seriously. As Clemie said, MSNBC does lean left, but their commentators give a much fairer presentation than you imply - plus, some of their daytime programming is quite conservative. Then, too, Tweety is in the middle of the evening lineuip and he's a wild card who calls 'em as he sees 'em - not always in favor of the Democrats. You may also want to keep in mind that FAUX News had a hand (and purse strings) in organizing and running the Tea Parties, which may have started out as a grass roots movement but did not stay that way for long. That means, Fox started trying to MAKE the news they were reporting. Shady, even for one of Rupert's one-sided media org.. except that there has been absolutely NOTHING grass roots about the tea parties from the beginning. there were all orchestrated by the right wing lunatics at faux news, such as the king of comedy beck
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Post by beth on Mar 6, 2010 20:49:53 GMT
Jim, I think some of the people who participated in one or more of the earlier events were honestly part of the "low taxes" conservative crowd and did not realize they were being manipulated. Then, others were the wild eyed far right loonies who worshiped at Glenn Beck's knew-caps and didn't care.
IOW, the money and the hype came from the usual suspects, but in some cases, the participation was sincere - at least last spring and early summer. Then, information about the whole rigged deal came down and the honest folks backed away. Many gullible loonies are still there - unfortunately. I don't think Das is dumb or gullible, though. I think he knows exactly what's going on, but it's apparently in his best interests to try to focus attention in another direction.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 6, 2010 23:03:10 GMT
Jim, I think some of the people who participated in one or more of the earlier events were honestly part of the "low taxes" conservative crowd and did not realize they were being manipulated. Then, others were the wild eyed far right loonies who worshiped at Glenn Beck's knew-caps and didn't care. IOW, the money and the hype came from the usual suspects, but in some cases, the participation was sincere - at least last spring and early summer. Then, information about the whole rigged deal came down and the honest folks backed away. Many gullible loonies are still there - unfortunately. I don't think Das is dumb or gullible, though. I think he knows exactly what's going on, but it's apparently in his best interests to try to focus attention in another direction. your assessment is 100% correct, and that's what makes it worse. like the nutjobs sean, glenn, ann and rush, das knows exactly what he's doing. they all know that it is wrong too, but, doing right wouldn't enrich them. since they care nothing about anything but their own self agrandizement, they preach their lunacy, and a few, thankfully very few, of those with lesser intellectual capability go along with it. thus, the tea parties
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 7, 2010 0:23:24 GMT
>>>the ONLY intelligent commentators at faux news are juan williams, alan colmes, and susan estrich. just a simple fact of life
ROFL. Thanks for a great laugh Jumbo. I laughed so hard I could barely breathe when I read this line of yours. That's hilarious.
I'm sure you haven't noticed but O'Reilly and Hannity almost always invite guests who are on both sides of the issues. That never happens with your 'in the pocket' Democrat propaganda outlets (MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NBC, ABC). They just take whatever positions the DNC gives them and put that out there as if it was news.
Fox lives up to their motto: Fair and Balanced. The others do not.
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Post by beth on Mar 7, 2010 2:04:43 GMT
Oh Das, of course they invite guests from the full spectrum - Ed Schultz constantly has Republican talking heads, as does Chris Matthews. Keith usually doesn't, to be sure, and his show is advertised as left view, so they are honest. Rachel sometimes has conservative guests, but just as often, she invites them and they take a pass. Rachel is tough and won't let them get away with their glossed over lies - and, they know it.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 7, 2010 17:01:11 GMT
Oh Das, of course they invite guests from the full spectrum - Ed Schultz constantly has Republican talking heads, as does Chris Matthews. Keith usually doesn't, to be sure, and his show is advertised as left view, so they are honest. Rachel sometimes has conservative guests, but just as often, she invites them and they take a pass. Rachel is tough and won't let them get away with their glossed over lies - and, they know it. yeah, but since he doesn't have reality on his side, das is grasping at straws, and any excuse is better than none at all
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 7, 2010 17:03:11 GMT
>>>the ONLY intelligent commentators at faux news are juan williams, alan colmes, and susan estrich. just a simple fact of life ROFL. Thanks for a great laugh Jumbo. I laughed so hard I could barely breathe when I read this line of yours. That's hilarious. I'm sure you haven't noticed but O'Reilly and Hannity almost always invite guests who are on both sides of the issues. That never happens with your 'in the pocket' Democrat propaganda outlets (MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NBC, ABC). They just take whatever positions the DNC gives them and put that out there as if it was news. Fox lives up to their motto: Fair and Balanced. The others do not. i like you, so i trust that you didn't injure yourself in the fall to the floor. i do envy your ability to find the truth humorous. sadly, i cannot find the truth that faux news is not news very funny
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Post by pumpkinette on Mar 9, 2010 12:39:45 GMT
FOX News is accurately labeled "GOP News". Like much of the Murdoch empire (for example, the NY Post) it is run by right wing extremists. MSNBC is the most liberal of the news organizations, with Ed Schultz, Keith Olberman, and Rachel Maddow airing one-hour commentary programs back-to-back-to-back. Unlike their counterparts at FOX, they are openly liberal and will criticize Democrats, including Obama, when necessary. FOX, in contrast, claims they are 'fair and balanced' and never said a disparaging word about their boy W. Worse yet, they implied that those who did criticize W or his wars were 'un-American' and un-patriotic. Assholes. Every single one of them. Please note that Judge Napolitano on FOX (FAUX) has REPEATEDLY BLASTED Dubya. I've heard him do so at least a few times. As usual, you make blanket statements without the full information. I personally have NO use for the Democrat worshipping STOOGES on MSNBC NOR the Republican worshipping STOOGES on FOX (FAUX). BOTH are EQUALLY COMPROMISED. However, Napolitano has repeatedly blasted Dubya. He also has Ron Paul on his show regularly who ALSO blasts Dubya a LOT.
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Post by pumpkinette on Mar 9, 2010 12:40:45 GMT
das, you're so far off the mark here that you just further nullify any reason to take you seriously. As Clemie said, MSNBC does lean left, but their commentators give a much fairer presentation than you imply - plus, some of their daytime programming is quite conservative. Then, too, Tweety is in the middle of the evening lineuip and he's a wild card who calls 'em as he sees 'em - not always in favor of the Democrats. You may also want to keep in mind that FAUX News had a hand (and purse strings) in organizing and running the Tea Parties, which may have started out as a grass roots movement but did not stay that way for long. That means, Fox started trying to MAKE the news they were reporting. Shady, even for one of Rupert's one-sided media org.. except that there has been absolutely NOTHING grass roots about the tea parties from the beginning. there were all orchestrated by the right wing lunatics at faux news, such as the king of comedy beck The tea parties were started by the supporters of Ron Paul PLUS 9/11 truthers. SCUM took over the tea parties, unfortunately. However, there ARE still Ron Paul supporters and 9/11 truthers who are fighting to TAKE the movement back, thank God. I'm 1 of them.
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Post by pumpkinette on Mar 9, 2010 12:42:25 GMT
>>>the ONLY intelligent commentators at faux news are juan williams, alan colmes, and susan estrich. just a simple fact of life ROFL. Thanks for a great laugh Jumbo. I laughed so hard I could barely breathe when I read this line of yours. That's hilarious. I'm sure you haven't noticed but O'Reilly and Hannity almost always invite guests who are on both sides of the issues. That never happens with your 'in the pocket' Democrat propaganda outlets (MSNBC, CBS, PBS, NBC, ABC). They just take whatever positions the DNC gives them and put that out there as if it was news. Fox lives up to their motto: Fair and Balanced. The others do not. Do you watch Judge Napolitano? Just wondering. MSNBC is NO better than FOX (FAUX). I'm FED UP with the compromised SCUM on BOTH channels. Judge is the only 1 on FOX I can see who's decent.
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Post by pumpkinette on Mar 9, 2010 12:45:51 GMT
Oh Das, of course they invite guests from the full spectrum - Ed Schultz constantly has Republican talking heads, as does Chris Matthews. Keith usually doesn't, to be sure, and his show is advertised as left view, so they are honest. Rachel sometimes has conservative guests, but just as often, she invites them and they take a pass. Rachel is tough and won't let them get away with their glossed over lies - and, they know it. Ron Paul doesn't pass NOR does his son, Rand Paul. I have no use for Maddow, though. She's just another compromised STOOGE for the SCUM-FILLED Democratic Party. The stooges on FOX (FAUX) are just as bad for the SCUM-FILLED Republican Party. I can't in good conscience support any of them on MSNBC or FAUX except Judge Napolitano. Thank God there's a FEW 3rd party shows (on radio at least) that don't have compromisers on them and I support 2 of those.
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 9, 2010 12:57:17 GMT
What is a '9/11 truther'?
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 9, 2010 15:05:40 GMT
What is a '9/11 truther'? while i love pumpkin, she gets that term for use in talking about those who have no interest in the 9/11 truth. these are chaps who hallucinate all kinds of insane reasons for 9/11 except the real one they keep reynolds aluminum in business making tin foil for their hats
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Mar 9, 2010 21:46:31 GMT
To quote Bill O'Reilly of Fox News, "If Fox News is a conservative channel—and I’m going to use the word ‘if’—so what? … You’ve got 50 other media that are blatantly left. Now, I don’t think Fox is a conservative channel. I think it’s a traditional channel. There’s a difference. We are willing to hear points of view that you’ll never hear on ABC, CBS or NBC.”
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Post by beth on Mar 10, 2010 2:51:25 GMT
What is a '9/11 truther'? A conspiracy theorist who believes either LIHOP or MIHOP in regard to government involvement in the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01. LIHOP = let it happen on purpose MIHOP = made it happen on purpose
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