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Post by lonewolf on Dec 6, 2009 23:47:45 GMT
Unless my English is very poor, this thread is about gender, not race. This thread is about anything and everything that is posted on it and if you find that upsetting then I suppose you will have to take that up with Big Lin, because, to be quite upfront, your personal likes and dislikes are not my problem. Maybe you need to pay closer attention when you read and before you post, lonewolf. And maybe you need to read the rules before you start blowing your horn, Gabriel. 1 No racist abuse 2 No religious bigotry 3 No personal attacks 4 No spam
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 7, 2009 0:50:35 GMT
Unless my English is very poor, this thread is about gender, not race. This thread is about anything and everything that is posted on it and if you find that upsetting then I suppose you will have to take that up with Big Lin, because, to be quite upfront, your personal likes and dislikes are not my problem. Maybe you need to pay closer attention when you read and before you post, lonewolf. And maybe you need to read the rules before you start blowing your horn, Gabriel. 1 No racist abuse 2 No religious bigotry 3 No personal attacks 4 No spam Come on, Lonewolf, stop being a troll!
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 7, 2009 2:12:36 GMT
Come on, Lonewolf, stop being a troll! I would assume Big Lin’s definition of a “Troll” is anybody who doesn’t dance to the same tunes that she does.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Dec 7, 2009 3:13:46 GMT
Come on, Lonewolf, stop being a troll! I would assume Big Lin’s definition of a “Troll” is anybody who doesn’t dance to the same tunes that she does. Nope lw. And yes this thread is about differences or similarities between "male and female" or "maleness and femaleness" and not racial theories! Please no hijacking!
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 7, 2009 4:31:37 GMT
And yes this thread is about differences or similarities between "male and female" or "maleness and femaleness" and not racial theories! Maybe you ought to explain that to Big Lin I saw a programme on TV recently about the supposed racial effects of IQ. It concluded, after a very detailed examination of the evidence, that IF you put non-whites on the same basis of opportunity, they would score exactly the same. After all, I was merely refuting what she had posted.
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Post by jean on Dec 7, 2009 9:18:22 GMT
(A pedant writes: You weren't 'refuting' what lin wrote - you were attempting a counter-argument. They're not the same thing.
As you were.)
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Post by iamjumbo on Dec 7, 2009 13:38:17 GMT
if you want to get downright technical, asians are the highest on the ladder, and throughout history have demonstrated it. Nonsense! Either you need to have your head examined or your bifocals adjusted for there is no race on this planet that has achieved more in technology, science, medicine, literature, music, and art than the Caucasian race. after all, the chinese invented gunpowder, one of the most useful tools ever devised Yeah, well next time you flip on an electric light, use a computer, make a phone call, drive your car, use a washing machine, or fly overseas on an airplane try to remember which race made it possible. damm you're daft lad. when was the last time that you bought a computer made by caucasians? hell, it's not too likely that your car was made by caucasians.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Dec 7, 2009 15:20:58 GMT
Dearest Jumbo, lonewolf and everyone contributing to this thread. We can discuss IQ differences between males and females. Males usually do better in mathematics, technology, etc. and females usually do better in languages. We really don't have room for a racial discussion here, which seems to interest some of you! This thread will lose it's coherence if we discuss that here. It's also a hot topic so please those interested in a discussion on "racial accomplishments", etc. feel free to start a thread on that here: biglinmarshall.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=vendettapassword rehab
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Dec 7, 2009 16:19:30 GMT
And yes this thread is about differences or similarities between "male and female" or "maleness and femaleness" and not racial theories! Maybe you ought to explain that to Big Lin I saw a programme on TV recently about the supposed racial effects of IQ. It concluded, after a very detailed examination of the evidence, that IF you put non-whites on the same basis of opportunity, they would score exactly the same. After all, I was merely refuting what she had posted. Lin merely challenged the accuracy and fairness of IQ test results to determine differences between males and females and used an analogy! She certainly didn't want to start a racial debate here!
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 7, 2009 17:59:25 GMT
I saw a programme on TV recently about the supposed racial effects of IQ. It concluded, after a very detailed examination of the evidence, that IF you put non-whites on the same basis of opportunity, they would score exactly the same. Don’t believe everything you see just because you happened to see it on television. We all started out as cavemen so the contention put forth by the program that we would all score the same is sheer bunk. After all, one need only take a look at the differences between Europe and sub-Saharan Africa to dispel such egalitarian nonsense. Your 'argument' is not only based on a false assumption - that I believe everything I see on TV - but also fails because of course the playing field is not level. When you give people equal opportunities the differences in IQ scores disappear completely - clear proof of the fact that it is environment and not genetics that determines results.
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 7, 2009 18:01:07 GMT
Come on, Lonewolf, stop being a troll! I would assume Big Lin’s definition of a “Troll” is anybody who doesn’t dance to the same tunes that she does. Considering that you once sent me a PM in which you openly said: 'I'm a troll - feed me!' I rest my case!
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Post by june on Dec 7, 2009 19:52:05 GMT
if you want to get downright technical, asians are the highest on the ladder, and throughout history have demonstrated it. Nonsense! Either you need to have your head examined or your bifocals adjusted for there is no race on this planet that has achieved more in technology, science, medicine, literature, music, and art than the Caucasian race. after all, the chinese invented gunpowder, one of the most useful tools ever devised Yeah, well next time you flip on an electric light, use a computer, make a phone call, drive your car, use a washing machine, or fly overseas on an airplane try to remember which race made it possible. and before that point folks nobody discovered or invented anything ;D
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 8, 2009 2:59:40 GMT
damm you're daft lad. when was the last time that you bought a computer made by caucasians? hell, it's not too likely that your car was made by caucasians. Son, when and where did I ever say that Asians were incapable of mass producing electronics and automobiles?
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 8, 2009 4:05:27 GMT
I would assume Big Lin’s definition of a “Troll” is anybody who doesn’t dance to the same tunes that she does. Considering that you once sent me a PM in which you openly said: 'I'm a troll - feed me!' I rest my case! As if you ever had a case, Big Lin! You posted the following “Come on, Lonewolf, stop being a troll!” simply because you were upset with the comments that I made on this thread…not because of any PM I sent you asking to be fed.
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Post by gabriel on Dec 8, 2009 10:39:30 GMT
Unless my English is very poor, this thread is about gender, not race. This thread is about anything and everything that is posted on it and if you find that upsetting then I suppose you will have to take that up with Big Lin, because, to be quite upfront, your personal likes and dislikes are not my problem. Maybe you need to pay closer attention when you read and before you post, lonewolf. And maybe you need to read the rules before you start blowing your horn, Gabriel. 1 No racist abuse 2 No religious bigotry 3 No personal attacks 4 No spam Then start a thread about racial superiority. That isn't this thread. Fairly simple process. Click on the point where it says new thread. There you go. I might even contribute. I don't much care what you post as long as you don't break the rules and you stay on topic. Start a new thread and go for it. Once again. 1st post on this thread. There seems to be a big interest in male and female psychology here however that may be defined. Male roles and female roles typical or stereotypical are also a topic of debate.
How we react to other people based on gender is also an interesting topic.
If a man, especially someone i don't know taps me on the shoulder i am immediately offended. If a woman does this i may be amused after being startled or offended. As a rule we don't tap a stranger on the shoulder to get their attention and i never do that! I thinks it's impolite, but i think women as a rule would find it much more impolite, if a man they don't know touches then i some form. I have gender based reservations about hand shakes too!
Comments anyone?
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 8, 2009 10:54:11 GMT
I don't much care what you post as long as you don't break the rules and you stay on topic. Whether I stay on topic or not is absolutely no concern of yours for there is no rule that requires me to do so.
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Post by gabriel on Dec 8, 2009 11:37:22 GMT
Why do I get the feeling you're poking your tongue out at me? Come on man. I'll say again. I don't care what you post as long as you follow the rules and stay on the thread.
Start a new thread. There's no-one stopping you. Discuss racial superiority. Your view of it.
Gabriel
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 8, 2009 14:30:25 GMT
I don't much care what you post as long as you don't break the rules and you stay on topic. Whether I stay on topic or not is absolutely no concern of yours for there is no rule that requires me to do so. Why exactly are you here, Lonewolf? To cause trouble or to be a constructive contributor? Gabriel is one of my most trusted and respected staff members and if he tells you that you're out of line you ought to at least LISTEN to what he says. For what it's worth I can't much see the point of derailing topics by posting irrelevant stuff. Much better to start a new thread. This is my board and you'll play by my rules. I've already had enough of the nonsense from another member and I won't stand for it from you either.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Dec 8, 2009 14:45:25 GMT
I don't much care what you post as long as you don't break the rules and you stay on topic. Whether I stay on topic or not is absolutely no concern of yours for there is no rule that requires me to do so. Dearest LW, I'll bet you like your wife/girl friend to serve you breakfast in bed! So I humbled myself and put up this thread for you on "Racial Differences?!" here.. biglinmarshall.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=936I found these pics in a Google image search and found it amusing,, Care to comment??
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Dec 8, 2009 14:52:21 GMT
I'm only posting a small part of this long and interesting article from the US magazine "Psychology Today"! Please click the link and go to the other pages for the full article! www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200306/the-new-sex-scorecard QUOTE: The New Sex Scorecard Men and women's minds really do work differently -- but not on everything. By Hara Estroff Marano, published on July 01, 2003 - last reviewed on September 09, 2005 Get out the spittoon. Men produce twice as much saliva as women. Women, for their part, learn to speak earlier, know more words, recall them better, pause less and glide through tongue twisters. Put aside Simone de Beauvoir's famous dictum, "One is not born a woman but rather becomes one." Science suggests otherwise, and it's driving a whole new view of who and what we are. Males and females, it turns out, are different from the moment of conception, and the difference shows itself in every system of body and brain. It's safe to talk about sex differences again. Of course, it's the oldest story in the world. And the newest. But for a while it was also the most treacherous. Now it may be the most urgent. The next stage of progress against disorders as disabling as depression and heart disease rests on cracking the binary code of biology. Most common conditions are marked by pronounced gender differences in incidence or appearance. Although sex differences in brain and body take their inspiration from the central agenda of reproduction, they don't end there. "We've practiced medicine as though only a woman's breasts, uterus and ovaries made her unique -- and as though her heart, brain and every other part of her body were identical to those of a man," says Marianne J. Legato, M.D., a cardiologist at Columbia University who spearheads the new push on gender differences. Legato notes that women live longer but break down more. Do we need to explain that difference doesn't imply superiority or inferiority? Although sex differences may provide ammunition for David Letterman or the Simpsons, they unfold in the most private recesses of our lives, surreptitiously molding our responses to everything from stress to space to speech. Yet there are some ways the sexes are becoming more alike -- they are now both engaging in the same kind of infidelity, one that is equally threatening to their marriages. Everyone gains from the new imperative to explore sex differences. When we know why depression favors women two to one, or why the symptoms of heart disease literally hit women in the gut, it will change our understanding of how our bodies and our minds work. The Gene Scene Whatever sets men and women apart, it all starts with a single chromosome: the male-making Y, a puny thread bearing a paltry 25 genes, compared with the lavish female X, studded with 1,000 to 1,500 genes. But the Y guy trumps. He has a gene dubbed Sry, which, if all goes well, instigates an Olympic relay of development. It commands primitive fetal tissue to become testes, and they then spread word of masculinity out to the provinces via their chief product, testosterone. The circulating hormone not only masculinizes the body but affects the developing brain, influencing the size of specific structures and the wiring of nerve cells. But sex genes themselves don't cede everything to hormones. Over the past few years, scientists have come to believe that they too play ongoing roles in gender-flavoring the brain and behavior. Females, it turns out, appear to have backup genes that protect their brains from big trouble. To level the genetic playing field between men and women, nature normally shuts off one of the two X chromosomes in every cell in females. But about 19 percent of genes escape inactivation; cells get a double dose of some X genes. Having fall-back genes may explain why females are far less subject than males to mental disorders from autism to schizophrenia. What's more, which X gene of a pair is inactivated makes a difference in the way female and male brains respond to things, says neurophysiologist Arthur P. Arnold, Ph.D., of the University of California at Los Angeles. In some cases, the X gene donated by Dad is nullified; in other cases it's the X from Mom. The parent from whom a woman gets her working genes determines how robust her genes are. Paternal genes ramp up the genetic volume, maternal genes tune it down. This is known as genomic imprinting of the chromosome. For many functions, it doesn't matter which sex genes you have or from whom you get them. But the Y chromosome itself spurs the brain to grow extra dopamine neurons, Arnold says. These nerve cells are involved in reward and motivation, and dopamine release underlies the pleasure of addiction and novelty seeking. Dopamine neurons also affect motor skills and go awry in Parkinson's disease, a disorder that afflicts twice as many males as females. XY makeup also boosts the density of vasopressin fibers in the brain. Vasopressin is a hormone that both abets and minimizes sex differences; in some circuits it fosters parental behavior in males; in others it may spur aggression.
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