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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 4, 2009 5:19:50 GMT
Iyi gunlar Lin! Good Day Lin! (There should be 2 dots on the u, but if i post a ü i predict it will be garbled after a day or 2.. Proboards garble foreign letters. Iyi akshemlar! Good Evening! I've really neglected my fragmented Turkish, although a lot of people i know here in Germany speak it! I think two words that everyone should know when visiting a non-English speaking country are please and thank you, which in Turkish are Lütfen! ( pronounced lewtfen ) and Tesek kür ederim or sa ol. I know my spelling is wrong too! If you get stuck in a situation people will realize that you're making an effort to be polite if you can say this and will try more to help you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2009 6:32:43 GMT
I'm a rotten linguist and hate learning foreign languages, though I have tried from time to time. Before I went to Spain a few years ago I attended classes once a week and picked up enough to get by - and was quite proud of my achievements.
But since then I have attended classes to refresh my French and now, if I need to hunt quickly in my rusting brain for the right Spanish word or phrase, all that pops up is the French equivalent.
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Post by iamjumbo on Oct 18, 2009 8:22:21 GMT
spanish is definitely easier to read and write than it is to listen to. those for whom it is their native language speak it so rapidfire, that it gets confusing sometimes. the one thing you have to remember in writing spanish is the punctuation. you have to put a question mark at the beginning of the sentence as well as at the end, and upside down at that Hola Jumbo! Yes the spelling in Spanish is logical and corresponds to the pronounication! Only the Irish/Gaelic language seems to have a more illogical spelling than English! If we really pronounce say ough it sounds like caveman talk! Words like tough, through, bough, enough, although etc. have contradictory and illogical pronounciation that just needs to be memorized. You're quite right about needing to put an upside down question mark at the beginning of a Spanish sentence, but i can't figure out how to do that yet with my PC. I can put up an accent ( acentuación ), but getting the ~ on top of the ns in words like "an~o" meaning" year is something i can't do yet either. Of course an~o is pronounced anyo with a soft n and if you just write ano and pronounce it as such you're saying anus. Can be embarassing! i imagine that, somewhere, they make keyboards with the extra punctuation, but, i don't know where. there is a distinct advantage to having a question mark at the beginning of a sentence, especially if you're reading aloud.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 18, 2009 17:43:29 GMT
Big Lin Basque is a difficult language, isn't it? I just know a few words (hello, bye and the numbers ) Anna, yes, soy catalana!! But I am not a separatist, I don't mind this! In Spain is Cataluña, and in Catalan language, it is Catalunya. In Catalan ñ doesn't exist, it is "ny". "Thanks for correcting me" is "gracias por corregirme". About my English doubts...I said it because English for me was a subject, so I say "me voy a inglés", and I mean the language...I made a wrong sentence. And I can't say "doubts"? I wanted to say that I will make some questions about my doubts. I don't know Calaitos!! but this kind of music is more famous in Andalucía...I use to listen English music, but there are some Spanish groups that I like too, as El Canto del Loco Hola Indiga! Voy a añadir esto ñ de tu post cada vez cuando me necista uno ! I'm going to add this ñ from your post whenever i need one! Tienes tambien un signo inverso de interrogación para mi? Do you have an upside down question mark for me to? Sometimes certain words are used more broadly in one language than in others. Gracias por corregirme! The Spanish have 2 words for "for"; "por" and "para". I often confuse the two! That's one part of Spanish that's harder than English, French ( pour ) or German ( für ), which all only have one word for "for"!
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Post by clemiethedog on Oct 21, 2009 15:09:33 GMT
"spanish is definitely easier to read and write than it is to listen to. those for whom it is their native language speak it so rapidfire, that it gets confusing sometimes."
That's been my experience, as well. I can, for example, determine a written message without too much difficulty, but verbal communication is a stumbling block for me.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 21, 2009 21:59:48 GMT
"spanish is definitely easier to read and write than it is to listen to. those for whom it is their native language speak it so rapidfire, that it gets confusing sometimes." That's been my experience, as well. I can, for example, determine a written message without too much difficulty, but verbal communication is a stumbling block for me. For those who want to learn a 2nd language such as Spanish i recommend buying a favorite dvd film with the option to run in say Spanish too, preferably with subtitles in Spanish, since as Clemie points out it's easier for most beginners to read than to listen and understand. The Star War films have this clear, solemn manner of speaking that can be followed in other languages and you will discover that "La Fuerza esta contigo!" The Force is with you! ;D
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Post by indiga on Oct 24, 2009 20:25:05 GMT
anna!! esto es para ti: ¿¿?? ¡¡!! quieres también una ç, para decir visca el barça? jaja
También miro dvd's en inglés!! And some shows (Lost, Big Ban Theory, Supernatural...), and when I listen the voices in Spanish it's very ridiculous. Que la fueza te acompañe!! ;D
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 25, 2009 7:17:17 GMT
anna!! esto es para ti: ¿¿?? ¡¡!! quieres también una ç, para decir visca el barça? jaja También miro dvd's en inglés!! And some shows (Lost, Big Ban Theory, Supernatural...), and when I listen the voices in Spanish it's very ridiculous. Que la fueza te acompañe!! ;D ¡¡Gracias por los signos!! Thanks for the signs! I always confuse por and para the 2 Spanish words for "for"! I guess with Gracias you use "por" . I'll have to do a grammar study on "por" and "para"! I also have the TV episodes of the Addams Family in Spanish! It's fun to learn Spanish with Uncle Fester! ;D Tengo tambien los episodios de la Familia Addams en español. Es muy divertido a aprendar español con tio Fester! ;D ¡¡Hasta proximo!! Til next time!
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Post by motorist on Oct 25, 2009 8:54:49 GMT
For learning Finnish, I found comic books were good for that. Asterix, for instance, and Garfield (who they call "Karvinen" which is one letter less than the word for "hairy"). Aku ankka (Donald Duck) is popular here but, when learning, I found the text wasn't as simple as in the other two. A simple DVD with Finnish might include the first Shrek film
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Post by indiga on Oct 25, 2009 12:42:47 GMT
I liked "la cosa" of the Addams Family! ;D
And about para and por...I don't know what to say...Te puedo decir que "para" es para perseguir una finalidad...por ejemplo: escribo en este tema para aprender, juego para divertirme...
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Post by pumpkinette on Oct 26, 2009 14:43:22 GMT
anna!! esto es para ti: ¿¿?? ¡¡!! quieres también una ç, para decir visca el barça? jaja También miro dvd's en inglés!! And some shows (Lost, Big Ban Theory, Supernatural...), and when I listen the voices in Spanish it's very ridiculous. Que la fueza te acompañe!! ;D ¡¡Gracias por los signos!! Thanks for the signs! I always confuse por and para the 2 Spanish words for "for"! I guess with Gracias you use "por" . I'll have to do a grammar study on "por" and "para"! I also have the TV episodes of the Addams Family in Spanish! It's fun to learn Spanish with Uncle Fester! ;D Tengo tambien los episodios de la Familia Addams en español. Es muy divertido a aprendar español con tio Fester! ;D ¡¡Hasta proximo!! Til next time! Anna, this picture makes me think of a "joseph" we both know... ;D
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 26, 2009 20:55:23 GMT
For learning Finnish, I found comic books were good for that. Asterix, for instance, and Garfield (who they call "Karvinen" which is one letter less than the word for "hairy"). Aku ankka (Donald Duck) is popular here but, when learning, I found the text wasn't as simple as in the other two. A simple DVD with Finnish might include the first Shrek film Yeah the first Shrek film is very understandable. I like all the vowels in Finnish. Languages with a lot of consonsants like Arabic and the Slavic languages can be tongue breakers. Comics are good too for starters in a foreign language. Still Finnish is pretty tough! Does anyone have a clue what Aku Ankka is saying?
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Post by motorist on Oct 26, 2009 21:11:27 GMT
I think it's
"window cleaner's handbook entry 378: falling elegantly" or something like that - the last two words look like variations of "stylish" and "relaxed" which fits his pose
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 26, 2009 21:59:45 GMT
Anna, this picture makes me think of a "joseph" we both know... ;D
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 26, 2009 22:01:15 GMT
I think it's "window cleaner's handbook entry 378: falling elegantly" or something like that - the last two words look like variations of "stylish" and "relaxed" which fits his pose Hyvää iltaa Motorist!Good Evening Motorist! I notice that letters with the 2 dots on them, which in Germany is called an "Umlaut" can break down on proboards. French and Spanish accented vowels seem to stay up. I lived in the same university dorm with a Finnish girl, who got me started in Finnish. I love the double vowels! Sauna of course is one Finnish word that everyone knows!
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 26, 2009 23:05:38 GMT
I liked "la cosa" of the Addams Family! ;D And about para and por...I don't know what to say...Te puedo decir que "para" es para perseguir una finalidad...por ejemplo: escribo en este tema para aprender, juego para divertirme... Thanks for your help Indiga!Me parece que tras gracias hay siempre 'por' y no 'para'!It seems to me that 'por' follows gracias and not 'para'.BTW is Halloween celebrated in Spain? ¿¿ Hay una celebración de Halloween en España??Creo que "la cosa" no hable nada!Thing doesn't talk though! ;D
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Post by motorist on Oct 27, 2009 4:16:33 GMT
Sauna of course is one Finnish word that everyone knows! Yeah, though most Brits don't know how to pronounce it correctly. Nokia and Moomins they can manage ;D Another Finnish thing in the UK is the company "Kone" which makes many escalators and lifts used in Britain. Kone is Finnish for "machine"
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 27, 2009 20:06:48 GMT
Sauna of course is one Finnish word that everyone knows! Yeah, though most Brits don't know how to pronounce it correctly. Nokia and Moomins they can manage ;D Another Finnish thing in the UK is the company "Kone" which makes many escalators and lifts used in Britain. Kone is Finnish for "machine" I guess a correct Finnish pronounciation of sauna would be to pronounce the a and u seperately, but that's a tall order for most non Finns!
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Post by indiga on Oct 27, 2009 20:49:51 GMT
anna, de nada mujer!! yes, 'por' follows gracias. And here in Spain Halloween is not celebrated. The november 1st we is Todos los Santos, it's a holiday. And in Catalunya, october 31 is la "Castañada", we eat chestnuts and we prepare and eat "panellets" Anyway, in recent years I have started to see that people wants to celebrate Halloween too...in some clubs it is celebrated, and some people dresses some terror clothes, but they are a minority.
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Post by motorist on Oct 27, 2009 20:50:08 GMT
Make them!!! MAKE THEM!!!! *shakes fist*
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