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Post by Big Lin on May 18, 2022 14:42:37 GMT
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Post by Hunny on Jun 14, 2022 20:23:15 GMT
www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/19/vadim-shishimarin-russian-soldier-asks-ukrainian-widow-to-forgive-him-during-first-war-crimes-trial What's intolerable is: "Russia has denied targeting civilians or being involved in war crimes." while ALL that Putin's intent has been is to kill civilians, imagining that terror is a good weapon. And I do not wish to see this young man at the start of his life being punished for the war crimes Putin ordered. He is but a soldier, charged with 'doing his duty'. It is Putin who is the war criminal. And though it's quite uncharacteristic of me, I think Putin needs to be put to death in a manner causing him agony for three full days, very publicly. NOT as vengeance, so that he and anyone else thinking of being the next Hitler will know the world will no longer tolerate that, will not allow it TO EVEN START, will NOT reward evil with compassion and will not fear to act swiftly and ruthlessly if required. BECAUSE THIS THIS HAS TO STOP! We need to never allow another murdering bully to start up while we just watch it happen, then 'have to' join in the carnage ourselves (citing it as 'justified').
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 15, 2022 20:37:03 GMT
I didn't know you supported the death penalty, Hunny.
On the whole Ukraine issue I'm divided actually.
In the first place both sides have lied through their teeth and engaged in disgustingly dishonest propaganda.
Secondly, there have been atrocities by Ukrainians against Russians and I remember vividly how during the war against Yugoslavia and the show trials that followed only Serbs were ever punished - never Croats, Bosnias, Kossovans or Slovenes. What's the difference between Lincoln and Milosevic? Lincoln won. Both men wanted to preserve the unity of their country but Milosevic lost so he's been vilified unjustly.
As it happens Bosnia and Kossovo now treat the Romani people worse than any other countries in Europe.
But that's just me reminiscing.
In war soldiers often do bad things.
Yes, Putin is a brutal thugh but he's no worse than the Chinese or Morth Koreans or quite a few other countries.
And for years the Ukrainians have been treating their Russian population badly.
So it's not really black and white.
Of course war crimes have to be punished but the MSM is hysterically and uncritically swallowing Zelensky's one-sided narrative.
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Post by Hunny on Jun 21, 2022 15:59:08 GMT
Hi Lin. Well. You have more understanding of the situation than I. To an American it's as simplistic as Russia was our enemy, then told us Perestroika, but then attacked us in ways were it not for the nukes would have been responded to as the acts of war they were. Russia even took the world's Olympics away. And now they're right back to Imperialism. I don't approve of capital punishment, or killing at all. But terminating Putin, at the start of his war, might have stopped it, stopped his mass murdering spree, his setting out to take other folks countries away from them. It'd be ONE death to prevent many and all the destruction and harm of it. Yes, kill Putin. Stop him and let all would-be Hitlers know hereforward: You will be terminated. You will not succeed. My hope is it'd be the path of least killing. Take the problem out at the source. Stop it from starting. But shame on me for imagining the world would unite against the madness of war being an option any more. I live in right wing America so I know that most people are terrible and stupid, and we can do no better as a species than to be murdering and stealing from each other and causing mass misery so a few can live in protected splendor, while all others, what do they need to live indoors for. Inhumankind. It's what people are. So I've been a hermited misanthrope the last 6 years. I WANT an asteroid to annihilate humans.
They're selfish, mean, moronic, they parrot whatever they hear to pretend to know things, while psychopaths prey on that behavior.
And no one lifts a finger.
And now it turns out half of Americans are SO BLOODY RETARDED, they think it agreeable to end democracy and impoverish everybody so that a handful can buy their own space programs, and tell us we think Governor Satan of Florida would be a good next president, for them. (He's the one who made it law that children MAY NOT wear covid masks, so that some would (and did) die.) (But to be fair, it was only so his base of terribles would approve of him, so it was "for the greater good".) And Americans are ok with that! Oh.. where I've been for 2 months is the hospital, I had a stroke. I may recover, but for America, and it seems the world (eg, what France just did), there is no hope. The right wing has risen, democracy has been eliminated and no one CARED that it was happening.
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 22, 2022 20:19:43 GMT
So sorry to hear your sad news, Hunny. You've been through it a lot lately.
I'm sorry I haven't been spending much time online lately but it's always a pleasrue to see you.
If you don't mind I'll say a prayer for you.
Love and hugs always!
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