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Post by trubble on Aug 10, 2016 21:11:15 GMT
Oh, no, bigLin, that's a bit of an overstatement. Treating people as spoilt brats and describing everything written as a stream of vitriol and lies is not fair comment. One sided? ... yes, I think perhaps... A little reticent to concede points? (eg Sharia), yes I saw that... A couple of "bumper sticker" posts that don't invite debate so much as wave a placard? Yeah, I think so...But that's sometimes the way conversations go. I don't like using words like "bigotry" but I think there has been some moments where I felt it might be going there... A few lectures that may be misleading? I expect so, I don't have time to check every single "fact" that someone else puts up, I am still only catching up on things... And in between that, some good debate! That bit is important. Surely we can find a place, somewhere between "vendetta" and "everywhere", for these debates to continue. By the way, are you talking about the JSG board? If so, I can confirm that free speech without moderation was what effectively closed it down. Very sad! Used to be a fabulous place, lots of very robust debate and quite a few dramatic rows, always borderline offensive, lol, but it is true that it began to deter more moderate posters and attract some very iffy characters (not like those here, who are civil at all times as far as I've ever seen) and as a result became unenjoyable, unworkable, and finally unredeemable. So I understand your point of view, I think. And I hope we can all understand it.
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Post by Big Lin on Aug 10, 2016 21:30:40 GMT
James himself ended up telling me he was so disgusted with what was being posted on his board he closed it down.
And maybe if I've lost my temper it's because people have not responded to polite and friendly requests to tone down their language, find a wider range of topics to post on and to behave with consideration.
But even so the substance of what I said stands.
I am not going to allow this place to become a one-dimensional, one-topic hate fest.
I would rather close it down than allow that to happen.
This place used to be such fun; vibrant, funny, lots of topics, lots of different opinions.
And now?
I dread coming here and seeing the latest rants.
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Post by mikemarshall on Aug 15, 2016 22:32:05 GMT
I would add that just because a thread is moved to some where on a forum such as a password protected area does not mean the powers that be at proboards dont have access to it because they do and can still send you a warning about anything in that area that breaches the TOS , that happened to me on my forum in Gibby's Pub. We are aware of that; it happened to another forum owner whose board was closed down even though the entire forum was only visible to registered members. But some protection is better than none. And frankly recent developments have been entirely regrettable.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 6, 2018 12:01:44 GMT
For those who don't know what it is, Vendetta is a password-protected area of the board where threads that are either getting overheated or are in danger of breaking our rules or Proboards terms of service are moved. That's NOT some attempt to censor free speech; it's an attempt to prevent the board getting bogged down in feuding or, worse even than that, breaking TOS which could (I know two other forum owners it's happened to) getting their forum closed down by Proboards. Lately a number of threads are falling into this category. In Vendetta the discussion can continue but WITHOUT the threads being visible to guests or members who haven't logged in to the Vendetta section. That means that the main board can continue without the flaming or possible TOS violations distracting guests or new members who might otherwise have the mistaken impression that all that ever gets posted on here is hate speech. I know I can rely on members to co-operate and understand that Vendetta is there for a purpose - to allow free speech to continue but WITHOUT disrupting the main forum with silliness, anger, prejudice and so on. Thank you for your co-operation. An honest opinion of how DAS sees Islam doesn't seem to be feuding to me. A lot of the things said about Islam has been quoted from the Koran itself and appears to be true, but whatever, I don't really take much notice, because God will take care of everything in the last days, so why worry? I personally don't want to see DAS relegated to Vendetta. He talks about all religion, that is his point of view, does it really matter? He does text great posts. I have never seen any other forum where there has been a password protected site such as Vendetta. Shouldn't we have access to the password? I have been hanging around for long enough to have been given the password, but I don't have it.
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Post by Big Lin on Mar 6, 2018 21:49:49 GMT
NO member is 'relegated' to Vendetta. Vendetta is an option that (mercifully) has been only RARELY used since this board has been around.
And it's when POSTS - and NOT a particular poster - DAS is one of my favourite members - cross the lines of the very few rules I set on this board that they get moved there.
Vendetta is password protected so that anyone who wants to continue the discussion without disrupting the main forum can do so.
And for the record I belong to SIX forums that have the SAME function - a Vendetta-style section that is password protected.
You even belong to two of them!
As for the password, I will send it to you by PM.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 9, 2018 8:51:59 GMT
NO member is 'relegated' to Vendetta. Vendetta is an option that (mercifully) has been only RARELY used since this board has been around. And it's when POSTS - and NOT a particular poster - DAS is one of my favourite members - cross the lines of the very few rules I set on this board that they get moved there. Vendetta is password protected so that anyone who wants to continue the discussion without disrupting the main forum can do so. And for the record I belong to SIX forums that have the SAME function - a Vendetta-style section that is password protected. You even belong to two of them! As for the password, I will send it to you by PM. I'm certainly not aware of it then. I welcome receiving the password. TA.
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