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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 14, 2016 18:51:50 GMT
Jean-Baptiste Salvaing and Jessica Schneider This jihadist tortured Mrs. Sschneider with a knife and livestreamed it on Facebook before murdering her. www.examiner.com/article/france-isis-kills-husband-and-wife-live-streams-torture-and-murder-of-wife June 14, 2016 QUOTE: The Islamic jihadist live-streamed on Facebook a video feed of the knife torture and eventual throat slitting of Jessica, all the while screaming the jihadist war chant of "Allahu Akbar" (God is great). On his Facebook page — maintained under the pseudonym “Mohamed Ali” — he also uploaded various bloody photos of his victims. All the while, the son was hiding behind the living room sofa, but nonetheless, witnessing the horror his mother was forced to endure. blc Big Lin
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 14, 2016 23:01:57 GMT
Two things; Genghis Khan and even Alexander the Great were both pretty ruthless. Before the twentieth century Genghis Khan was certainly vying with the Catholic Church for the title of biggest mass murderer in history.
Leaving that aside, I don't understand why only staff can see it.
Is this yet another Proboards glitch?
I certainly haven't changed any settings or edited any posts.
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 14, 2016 23:02:49 GMT
Anna, did you mean to post this in the staff room? I'm quite happy for you to post it on the main board!
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 14, 2016 23:10:08 GMT
Anna, did you mean to post this in the staff room? I'm quite happy for you to post it on the main board! Thank you Big Lin .
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 14, 2016 23:17:18 GMT
Two things; Genghis Khan and even Alexander the Great were both pretty ruthless. Before the twentieth century Genghis Khan was certainly vying with the Catholic Church for the title of biggest mass murderer in history. Leaving that aside, I don't understand why only staff can see it. Is this yet another Proboards glitch? I certainly haven't changed any settings or edited any posts. The terror that Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great caused died when they died. Muhammed's empire was never defeated and his strategy of conquest and terror continues.DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) @menantol iamjumbo kronks
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 14, 2016 23:17:39 GMT
This was a despicable crime; there is NO excuse for what this scumbag did.
What he did is beyond contempt and a POS like him fully deserves to be executed.
He used Islam as an excuse for his own choked and perverted hatred just as others have used Christianity, others Hinduism, others Judaism (the assassination of Rabin dealt a devastating blow to the hopes of Middle Eastern peace and that was carried out by one of Kach's mob) and so on.
As Rabindranath Tagore wrote:
Rabindranath Tagore “Those who in the name of Faith embrace illusion, kill and are killed. Even the atheist gets God's blessings- Does not boast of his religion;
With reverence he lights the lamp of Reason And pays his homage not to scriptures, But to the good in man.
The bigot insults his own religion When he slays a man of another faith. Conduct he judges not in the light of Reason; In the temple he raises the blood-stained banner And worships the devil in the name of God.
All that is shameful and barbarous through the Ages, Has found a shelter in their temples- Those they turn into prisons; O, I hear the trumpet call of Destruction! Time comes with her great broom Sweeping all refuse away.
That which should make man free, They turn into fetters; That which should unite, They turn into sword; That which should bring love From the fountain of the Eternal, They turn into prison
And with its waves they flood the world. They try to cross the river In a bark riddled with holes; And yet, in their anguish, whom do they blame?
O Lord, breaking false religion, Save the blind! Break! O break The alter that is drowned in blood.
Let your thunder strike Into the prison of false religion,
And bring to this unhappy land The light of Knowledge.”
― Rabindranath Tagore
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 14, 2016 23:19:31 GMT
Two things; Genghis Khan and even Alexander the Great were both pretty ruthless. Before the twentieth century Genghis Khan was certainly vying with the Catholic Church for the title of biggest mass murderer in history. Leaving that aside, I don't understand why only staff can see it. Is this yet another Proboards glitch? I certainly haven't changed any settings or edited any posts. The terror that Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great caused died when they died. Muhammed's empire was never defeated and his strategy of conquest and terror continues.Well, actually, the Ptolemys, Seleucids, Antigonides and so on carried on persecuting and exploiting and even murdering people. So did Hulagu Khan, Timurlane, Baber and so on. So you're not actually correct. And the Catholic Church certainly murdered more people than Islam has managed.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 15, 2016 5:49:19 GMT
And the Catholic Church certainly murdered more people than Islam has managed. The Spanish Inquisition alone was certainly horrifying enough with up to a million dead. Yes Christianity had it's barbaric medieval inquisition. The 30 years war was a horror in itself. Thankfully Europe survived without provoking some foreign intervention. We can only hope the Islamic nations will be contained within this borders and allowed to grow through their middle ages as Europe once did. That means not nuking these countries nor allowing those who should stand and fight extremism to flee to Europe with the inevitable ISIS agents hiding among them.
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 15, 2016 13:06:32 GMT
Where are you getting these figures from, Anna?
Frankly when you consider the population of the world at the time when Islam was at its most persecutory that would make them responsible for murdering more than the combined population of the world at the time.
I suspect this is just propaganda rather than sober historical fact.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 15, 2016 14:53:03 GMT
Where are you getting these figures from, Anna? Frankly when you consider the population of the world at the time when Islam was at its most persecutory that would make them responsible for murdering more than the combined population of the world at the time. I suspect this is just propaganda rather than sober historical fact. These are the deaths caused by Islam during the course of it's existence and not from a single genocidal act.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 15, 2016 15:04:46 GMT
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Post by kronks on Jun 16, 2016 3:11:55 GMT
And the Catholic Church certainly murdered more people than Islam has managed. The Spanish Inquisition alone was certainly horrifying enough with up to a million dead. Yes Christianity had it's barbaric medieval inquisition. The 30 years war was a horror in itself. Thankfully Europe survived without provoking some foreign intervention. We can only hope the Islamic nations will be contained within this borders and allowed to grow through their middle ages as Europe once did. That means not nuking these countries nor allowing those who should stand and fight extremism to flee to Europe with the inevitable ISIS agents hiding among them.
Those figures sound made up.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 16, 2016 13:20:26 GMT
The Spanish Inquisition alone was certainly horrifying enough with up to a million dead. Yes Christianity had it's barbaric medieval inquisition. The 30 years war was a horror in itself. Thankfully Europe survived without provoking some foreign intervention. We can only hope the Islamic nations will be contained within this borders and allowed to grow through their middle ages as Europe once did. That means not nuking these countries nor allowing those who should stand and fight extremism to flee to Europe with the inevitable ISIS agents hiding among them.
Those figures sound made up. Some people say the death figures attributed to Stalin + Hitler are made up or exaggerated too. The Turks claim the Armenian genocide was a myth and you get arrested in Turkey if you say otherwise.
Let's just try and get the facts together and see if these allegations below can be refuted.
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 16, 2016 22:48:38 GMT
Those figures sound made up. Some people say the death figures attributed to Stalin + Hitler are made up or exaggerated too. The Turks claim the Armenian genocide was a myth and you get arrested in Turkey if you say otherwise.
Let's just try and get the facts together and see if these allegations below can be refuted.
OK, world population figures. By 1400 - between 350-400 million. By 1500 - between 425-500 million By 1600 - between 500-580 million By 1700 - between 600-680 million By 1800 - between 890-980 million By 1900 - between 1560 million and 1710 million As any RATIONAL person can see, on those figures it's IMPOSSIBLE - let alone the technical difficulties of mass murder before the modern Industrial Age - for 'Islam' to have murdered 270 million people. On the specific issue of the Armenian genocide, the numbers of Armenians allegedly killed is GREATER - by over three hundred thousand people - than the ENTIRE population of Armenia at the time. Now I'm NOT denying that the Armenian genocide took place; but the numbers of dead have been considerably inflated. None of that makes it any less despicable. Nor does my objection to the ludicrous and obviously DELIBERATELY DISHONEST figure that the nutjob Warner and his fellow crazies put forward make the murders committed in the name of Islam any less despicable. But stupid nonsense and downright LIES don't help a cause that's already grasping at straws.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 17, 2016 0:33:23 GMT
All conquering totalitarian systems in history used a large number of slave laborers to enable these conquests. It is justifiable to assume that "the able bodied slaves" kept their people alive before being enslaved. Big Lin here's a rough summary of the justification Dr. Warren gives for these estimates: www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/ QUOTE: AfricaThomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa. 120 million AfricansChristiansThe number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have: 60 million ChristiansHindusKoenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.” 80 million HindusBuddhistsBuddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam) everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.] 10 million BuddhistsJewsOddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power. iamjumbo DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) @menantol kronks blc
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 22, 2016 4:54:39 GMT
Why the fascination with how many people were killed in the past, and by whom? We should be discussing how to prevent it happening in the future.
Torture is carried out by sick people. Sadists which is what they are, are not normal as they love to inflict pain. It makes me wonder what happened in their childhood to bring about such horrific behaviour?
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 22, 2016 13:17:13 GMT
Why the fascination with how many people were killed in the past, and by whom? We should be discussing how to prevent it happening in the future. Torture is carried out by sick people. Sadists which is what they are, are not normal as they love to inflict pain. It makes me wonder what happened in their childhood to bring about such horrific behaviour? The difference between Eckankar and Christianity is the belief that some who appear as humans have a demonic soul from the devil and not God. Or perhaps Sri Harji would reveal that he agrees with Christ here. Matthew 13: 38-39 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jun 23, 2016 7:23:19 GMT
Hi Anna, I am under the impression that there are two forces in this physical plane, the positive and negative these are personified as God and Satan, as far as I am aware they are really working hand in hand in order that we will learn what it is that we need to know.
We are the ones that make the choices and put them into action. We suffer the consequences of that choice. It is up to each person what sort of life that they live. We need to learn unconditional love for one another and in doing so we wend our way back to the Godhead, helped by God's messenger, the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master, Sri Harold Klemp.
I have met him many times in the the next dimension when out of the body. These are real experiences according to ECKANKAR beliefs, others may think of them as dreams just a figment of our imagination. Each experience is teaching a person something that will help them in this life and every other life as they travel the path of enlightenment.
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