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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Feb 3, 2016 19:14:22 GMT
Fascinating history. I hadn't realized that the Portuguese started the slave trade, though I did know that the Brits dominated it.
Like any sales and marketing operation, there were suppliers (africans), middlemen (Europeans), and customers (plantation owners mainly in Brazil and the West Indies. Only 5% of the slaves were sold to North American customers.
I found the triangular nature of the business interesting. Manufactured goods were shipped from Europe to Africa where they were bartered for slaves. The slaves were then shipped to Brazil and the West Indies where they were bartered for sugar and agricultural products such as cotton. Those products went back to Europe where the cycle was repeated. The ships followed that triangular route and had a full cargo on each leg of the trip(s). Hence the shipping business was so profitable that many European countries jumped into the trade.
I think the history of slavery is misunderstood. There has been so much publicity about the American Civil War and the Emancipation Proclamation that many people mistakenly believe that slavery was an American thing. Though the southern states were involved, they were really minor players in the overall slave trade.
Another misconception is that slavery was an African invention. There were slaves throughout history up to the 19th century. All the early empires, such as Rome, were built on the backs of slaves.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Feb 3, 2016 22:15:04 GMT
Here is a photo of the Carrara Marble Quarry in Italy. It is a mountainous area with huge natural marble deposits. The Romans loved marble. They used it to sheath important buildings and to carve statues. To do their magic, the sculptors and artisans needed large blocks of marble delivered to their workshops in or near Rome. That all happened with slave labor. There were horses and carts but no cranes, caterpillar tractors, or motorized vehicles. When I stood beforef these mountains and viewed the immense marble deposits, I couldn't help but think of those slaves and what looks like a near impossible task of bringing down large blocks of this stuff by hand. Yes, the African slaves had a tough go of it, but Roman slaves had an even worse lot.
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Post by blc on Feb 4, 2016 12:02:06 GMT
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 28, 2016 14:25:58 GMT
The Soviets, Maoists, National Socialists, etc. copied the ancient Roman concept of using slave labor to help "build an empire".
It's a logical assumption to suspect that slave labor based dictatorships will return some time in the future since the fiat currency is destined to loose it's value and leave only debt. The citizens of indebted nations will be held responsible for this inherited debt. This "no future debt creating economy" is something that it's creators + enablers know how to use to their advantage, but most people will be victims of it.
Slave labor will then be justified as a means to save lives. Freedom for many people would mean bitter poverty at best and occupations such as thief, prostitute, beggar, etc.. As in Biblical times we will have slaves in fear of being cast out into freedom as in Christ's Parable of the Talents. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A14-30&version=NASB
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Feb 28, 2016 15:08:31 GMT
gardenofpraise.com/slave.htmBack to the main subject of this thread: "Who financed the slave trade and brought it to America, etc.".
Politically correct people are welcome to search for the "villains of slavery" among slave owners, especially in the US. The fact is Americans, etc. have had a history of buying bad products such as slavery, especially if these products were well advertised. Even the holier than thou churches endorsed slavery and promoted it ( and still do ) in some form. This "Robinson Crusoe fantasy" that many Whites sadly have in some variation that they can enlighten Blacks and others and/or offer them something wonderful has been then and now skillfully manipulated for evil agendas. I don't deny of course that there were cruel Simon Legree type slave owners with bad intentions as well.
The biggest villains of slavery were those who financed it, built the hell like ships to transport slaves, hired the brutal crews, promoted it and made it possible in the first place.
The identities of those who built the slave ships are mostly carefully concealed, except for some small scale pirate rogue type slave traders.
No one denies that the slave ship Brooke for example existed and transported up to 609 slaves with unbelievable cruelty that wouldn't even be tolerated today for cattle destined to be slaughtered. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookes_%28ship%29 It's a farce that no one can be identified as being responsible for creating these monstrosity slave ships. Big Lin blc DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) mikemarshall
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Feb 28, 2016 18:04:06 GMT
I agree with Anna that the slave traders were major bad guys in the slave trade. Plantation owners, whether in Brazil, America, Cuba, or elsewhere were consumers of a product -- Cheap labor -- workers whom you literally owned and didn't have to pay salaries. You even owned their offspring so you could consider going into the slave breeding business. The slave traders offered a very tempting business deal.
Slave owners varied from cruel and heartless to caring and generous. They weren't all evil as depicted in our politically correct media today. I've personally toured some well preserved slave plantations that are now museums in Louisiana and Georgia. Several of them were pretty nice, situated on a very attractive piece of property along a river bank, with a great climate and attractive surroundings. Even the slave quarters were pretty decent. Better, in fact, than some poor low income neighborhoods today.
Just as evil as the slave traders, were the black African tribes who hunted down their neighbors and then sold them to the slave ship traders.
Today, we are given the impression that being sold into slavery was just about the worst thing that could happen to you. What's seldom mentioned is the fact that staying with your tribe in Africa, while being hunted by other tribes, was no picnic either.
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Post by blc on Feb 29, 2016 17:08:19 GMT
I agree with Anna that the slave traders were major bad guys in the slave trade. Plantation owners, whether in Brazil, America, Cuba, or elsewhere were consumers of a product -- Cheap labor -- workers whom you literally owned and didn't have to pay salaries. You even owned their offspring so you could consider going into the slave breeding business. The slave traders offered a very tempting business deal. Slave owners varied from cruel and heartless to caring and generous. They weren't all evil as depicted in our politically correct media today. I've personally toured some well preserved slave plantations that are now museums in Louisiana and Georgia. Several of them were pretty nice, situated on a very attractive piece of property along a river bank, with a great climate and attractive surroundings. Even the slave quarters were pretty decent. Better, in fact, than some poor low income neighborhoods today. Just as evil as the slave traders, were the black African tribes who hunted down their neighbors and then sold them to the slave ship traders. Today, we are given the impression that being sold into slavery was just about the worst thing that could happen to you. What's seldom mentioned is the fact that staying with your tribe in Africa, while being hunted by other tribes, was no picnic either. Agreed. Another thing that is annoying is that when they talk about the slave trade, they inevitably try to make it seem like the American colonies started it, when they didn't.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 4, 2016 0:08:16 GMT
I agree with Anna that the slave traders were major bad guys in the slave trade. Plantation owners, whether in Brazil, America, Cuba, or elsewhere were consumers of a product -- Cheap labor -- workers whom you literally owned and didn't have to pay salaries. You even owned their offspring so you could consider going into the slave breeding business. The slave traders offered a very tempting business deal. Slave owners varied from cruel and heartless to caring and generous. They weren't all evil as depicted in our politically correct media today. I've personally toured some well preserved slave plantations that are now museums in Louisiana and Georgia. Several of them were pretty nice, situated on a very attractive piece of property along a river bank, with a great climate and attractive surroundings. Even the slave quarters were pretty decent. Better, in fact, than some poor low income neighborhoods today. Just as evil as the slave traders, were the black African tribes who hunted down their neighbors and then sold them to the slave ship traders. Today, we are given the impression that being sold into slavery was just about the worst thing that could happen to you. What's seldom mentioned is the fact that staying with your tribe in Africa, while being hunted by other tribes, was no picnic either. Agreed. Another thing that is annoying is that when they talk about the slave trade, they inevitably try to make it seem like the American colonies started it, when they didn't. Yes Americans as most people have a history of getting involved in well advertised bad agendas and slavery was a very bad product that was well advertised. I'm a direct descendant of one the signers of the Declaration of Independence and he was also a repentant slave owner. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carroll_of_Carrollton When slavery was rightfully outlawed in the Northern States he knew that nothing, but bitter poverty was awaiting his former slaves and he allowed them to stay on his property to avoid this. He later spent much of his wealth to help repatriate his former slaves and many others to stabile Black African communities in Liberia + Sierra Leone. The labor on his property was done before and after slavery. I suppose he like many at first succumbed to the Robinson Crusoe fantasy that Whites could guide Blacks to enlightenment when only God can do this for all ethnicities.
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