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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 3, 2015 0:23:33 GMT
The peasant revolts were the first attempts IMO to overthrow the slavery of the people called serdom in those ages. The video above sums up the peasants revolt in 1381 around England.
There was an even bigger peasants' revolt in what is now Germany. In the city I live in there is a suburb called "Goldberg". It was here that a gigantic battle between a 150,000 man army of revolting peasants and the well trained 70,000 man army of the feudal rulers clashed. The peasant attempted to lure the armored clad soldiers into a marshy area in Goldberg hoping that their armor would cause them to sink. Instead the feudalist soldiers were ordered to encircle the peasants cutting off their escape and attack them from all sides. The result was a tragic massacre and a part of Goldberg is still called Gallows' Hill ( Galgenberg ) where many of the leaders of the peasants revolt were executed.
The slavery called "serfdom" was simply a cruel and barbaric slavery.
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Post by mikemarshall on Jun 7, 2015 23:30:58 GMT
That is a rather simplistic view both of serfdom and of the Peasant's Revolt (I assume in the case of the German one you are referring to the 1525 uprising).
In terms of the Peasant's Revolt in England religion undoubtedly played a part and the Lollards were a kind of proto-Protestant group who were protected by the Plantagenet kings. John Ball, one of the leading spirits of the Peasant's Revolt, was a Lollard.
The revolt in England concentrated not so much on serfdom but on the attempt by the nobility to maintain laws such as the Statute of Artificers (I am quoting from memory here) which enforced strict controls on trade and employment not simply on existing serfs but on tradespeople and artisans in general. As the Black Death and wars with France had hugely reduced the population the peasants felt they should be receiving greater recompense and rose up when that was denied to them.
Although in a technical sense they lost serfdom was already becoming a dead letter in England and under the Yorkists it was almost entirely dead. Its official abolition did not come about till the time of Charles II but it had been abolished de facto over three hundred years earlier.
The German revolt in 1525 was also complex; many of the leaders were Anabaptists and millenarians who believed in the imminent Second Coming. Anti-semitism also played a part.
Serfdom in Europe lasted much longer both in practice and theory than it did in England but even there, apart from Russia, it was virtually a dead letter by around the seventeenth century.
Nor is it true that serfdom can reasonably be equated with slavery. Serfs had rights under the law, even against their landlords while slaves had no legal protection.
From time to time courts did intervene on behalf of serfs who felt unjustly treated by their lords and compel the lords to make restitution for the wrong done to them.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 8, 2015 0:37:38 GMT
Thanks for your input mikemarshall . I intentionally make such complicated historical events as simplistic as possible on the forums. Serf was just another word for slave.
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Post by blc on Jun 8, 2015 0:46:52 GMT
mikemarshall, thanks for the very informative post. Do you think religion was part of the cause or was greed and wealth by clerics of different faiths, more the cause?
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Post by blc on Jun 8, 2015 0:53:30 GMT
Thanks for your input mikemarshall . I interntionally make such complicated historical events as simplistic as possible on the forums. Serf was just another word for slave. I had to look at the differences
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