The Knox-Sollecito Retrial in Italy

[♫anna♫]

Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito have absolutely no history of evil. There is no charlie m*nson brainwashing them. People like them don't associate with derelict criminals like g*ede. There was no dna from Knox or Sollecito under Meredith Kercher's fingernails.

"Expert witnesses" make a lot of money for their testimony and they can always be found for the prosecution and the defense. An expert witness, a psychatrist Dr. Eliseo, received a fat payment to diagnose the serial killer g*cy as a schizophrenic. If he didn't make the diagnose Dr. Eliseo would have missed a fat pay check.

If g*ede had a cohort it was someone from his criminal underworld who broke into the home with him and maybe wore gloves the whole time. The claim that Knox and Sollecito instructed g*ede to fake a break in after the murder is ridiculous.




The liar and career criminal g*ede is the star witness for the prosecution. This liar continues to desecrate Meredith Kercher's memory and reputation by claiming it was Meredith who invited her in and they had consensual sex together.

[Big Lin]

Even serial killers usually start with just one victim.

Most murderers only kill one person.

The fact that someone hasn't killed before doesn't mean a thing - if it did most murderers would be declared innocent.

The facts aren't quite as clear-cut as you like to make out, Anna; I posted some while back about how there was overwhelming evidence of both DNA and blood which could ONLY have come from Amanda Knox and Rafael Sollecito.

[Big Lin]

www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/06/amanda-knox-cctv-footage_n_5273555.html?utm_hp_ref=crime&ir=Crime

Amanda Knox's Alibi Appears Challenged By CCTV Footage: TV Show
Posted: 05/06/2014 10:58 am EDT Updated: 3 hours ago

CCTV footage released by an Italian investigative TV show casts doubt over Amanda Knox's alibi in the case of the murder of her roommate Meredith Kercher.

The Italian investigative program Quarto Grado released a video appearing to show a woman resembling Amanda Knox walking through a car park near the roommates' home in the Italian town of Perugia. The footage is timestamped 20:53 on November 1, 2007, the night of Meredith Kercher's murder.

According to The Independent, Quarto Grado claimed the jeans and long coat the woman in the video is wearing are similar to those worn by Knox in the aftermath of Kercher's death. The investigative show also said it found similarities between the woman's walk and the way Knox is seen walking in public footage.


(Screenshot from Quarto Grado)

If it would be confirmed that the woman in the video is Knox, the footage would cast severe doubt on Knox's alibi for the night of the murder. The American student always maintained she spent the evening at the home of her then-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito.

Knox and Sollecito were found guilty of Kercher's murder in 2009, and spent four years in an Italian jail before their verdict was overturned and Knox returned to the U.S.

But in January, an Italian court reinstated their guilty verdicts and Knox now faces 28 ½ years in Italian prison. She has vowed to fight extradition to Italy if the verdict is upheld in the next appeal.

According to Quarto Gardo, the same CCTV camera appears to have captured Kercher walking through the car park just a few minutes earlier. Rudy Guede, who was convicted separately of Kercher's killing and is serving 16 years in jail also appears to have been filmed.

One expert following the case told The Times that the CCTV footage was known to the prosecution and defense in Knox's trial, but was not regarded as useful to either side.

"If the prosecution shows someone like Amanda Knox walking away from the crime scene it’s not helpful," Barbie Latza Nadeau told the newspaper. "For the defense, if there is a video of her anywhere near the house it’s not helpful to them because her alibi is that she was at Raffaele’s house."

Last week, the Italian court that convicted Knox and Sollecito released documents explaining their reasoning. The court argued that it believed Knox and Sollecito had attacked Kercher with knives, and that the American student had inflicted the fatal injury. Knox responded with a statement maintaining that no forensic evidence links her to the crime.

[♫anna♫]

Dearest Lin,
I need facts. a grainy video that may be been concocted way after the murder or shows a woman with some ressemblance to Knox is not a conviction. g*ede's hodge podge testimony claiming he saw Amanda's silhouette doesn't hold water. Well lets look at the alleged Amanda video.




And here's someone that rebukes the claim that Amanda's blood was mixed up with the predator and Meredith's dna.
Yes Amanda shouldn't have used the shower-agreed. But that doesn't make her a murderer.

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Did the pathology show more than one assailant i am confused

[♫anna♫]

May 8, 2014 7:59:29 GMT Gibby said:

Did the pathology show more than one assailant i am confused

The prosecution allegedly couldn't find dna evidenece under Meredith's fingernails and concluded that she must have been held down by a cohort of g*ede and concluded without evidence that this must have been Knox or Sollecito. It could also mean that Meredith tried to punch g*ede instead of scratching when she tried to defend herself or only tried to flee in terror from her attacker and murderer.

g*ede either prevented Meredith from scratching him or she tried to save herself with other means or the pathologist was incompetent-typical Italy-and didn't do his job right.

If g*ede had a cohort-a theoretical possibility-, but IMO unproven possibility, it would be someone from his criminal underworld and not an American exchange student who was only in Italy a few weeks or Sollecito, both who have absolutely no criminal history.

Expert witnesses are a dime a dozen and for a fee will support either the prosecution or the defense. The prosecution has already spent a scandalous amount of money to convict Knox and Sollecito. They will hire whatever "expert witness" they can find to support their biased claims.

[♫anna♫]

This video discredits entirely the prosecution's attempt to railroad Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito.

The sole murderer Rudi Guede continues to defame Meredith Kercher's memory with evil claims that Meredith invited him over because she wanted to have sex with him.

[DAS (formerly BushAdmirer)]

Here is prominent Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz' take on Amanda Knox

[♫anna♫]

Amanda Knox's lawyers are appealing to Italy's last resort court. Hopefully Knox's obvious innocence will be demonstrated and an acquittal of Knox would of course acquit Raffaele Sollecito. The lone murderer Rudi Guede continues to spout his lies that murder victim Meredith Kercher invited him over because she wanted to have sex with him.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/18/amanda-knox-italy-court/10751647/
Knox defense turns to Italy's last-resort court
June 18, 2014
ROME (AP) — Amanda Knox's lawyers have formally asked Italy's court of last resort to review the U.S. student's appeals court conviction for the 2007 stabbing murder of her British roommate.

Defense lawyer Luciano Ghirga told The Associated Press on Wednesday that the paperwork was submitted last week to the Court of Cassation, Italy's highest criminal court.

Knox's lawyers had promised the move after a Florence appeals court in January reinstated a lower court's murder convictions of her and her Italian former boyfriend in the slaying of Meredith Kercher in the central city of Perugia, where all three were studying. The defense filed its recourse after studying the appeals court's written rationale, issued in April, for the convictions.

Cassation judges can either uphold the convictions if they find the appeals trial was properly conducted or order yet another appellate trial.

Ghirga said the Cassation Court might take up the case late this year or in early 2015.

The January ruling against Knox included a 28-1/2-year prison sentence for her and a 25-year sentence for her ex-boyfriend and co-defendant, Raffaele Sollecito.

Knox, a University of Washington student, has been in the United States since 2011. She left Italy right after an earlier appeals court ruling overturned the initial lower court conviction that had led to her imprisonment in Italy. The American, who turns 27 next month, has vowed the she would never "willingly" return to Italy to face her fate in court.

She has said she is hopeful Italian courts will "once again recognize" her innocence.

In the 337-page document in which the Florence court laid out its reasons for the convictions, the presiding judge contended Knox herself delivered the fatal knife blow, writing that the American wanted to "humiliate the victim."
Sollecito has also proclaimed his innocence.

[♫anna♫]

Jun 19, 2014 14:02:49 GMT DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) said:

Here is prominent Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz' take on Amanda Knox

groundreport.com/alan-dershowitz-is-mistaken-about-amanda-knox-evidence/ QUOTE:
Alan Dershowitz is mistaken about Amanda Knox evidence

alan dershowitz

Sergei Chuzavkov/AP

In an interview earlier this month with CNN anchor/correspondent Max Foster, Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz said this:

“The evidence against [Amanda Knox] is very, very considerable. You wouldn’t know that by listening to the American media that has been saying repeatedly that there’s no evidence against her. She falsely accused somebody of committing the crime, she created a false alibi, she first admitted she was at the scene of the crime, they found forensically that multiple people had to commit the murder, the person who was convicted in the murder said she did it. The evidence is very, very considerable, now that may not be enough to persuade everybody or even to go beyond a reasonable doubt but for people who say there’s no evidence, they’re just not telling the truth. There is considerable evidence and she would probably be extradited under the law if the conviction were confirmed.”

Alan Dershowitz’s comments betray only a superficial understanding of the facts of this case. As opposed to his beliefs, it is, in fact, true that there is no evidence against Amanda Knox.

Mr. Dershowitz offers five specific examples of evidence for guilt, but all of them are weak, if not completely false. One example is without any merit and cannot be supported logically. The claim that Amanda created a false alibi is not evidence that she was involved in the crime, because the only way it can be made is by engaging in circular reasoning by presuming guilt.

Dershowitz also claims that Amanda falsely accused someone of committing the crime, and that she admitted she was at the scene. The reality is that statements to that effect were typed in Italian by police, who then required Amanda to sign them. The statements contained information the police wanted to convey, not information Amanda wanted to convey. The essential conflict, though, is that the statements are legally irrelevant. Those who respect the Italian legal system should respect the fact that in 2008, the Italian Supreme Court excluded the use of the two statements from the murder trial of Amanda Knox, primarily because they were obtained from her while authorities improperly withheld access to legal counsel.

If Italy requests the extradition of Amanda from the United States, it must be noted that the two nations’ mutual extradition treaty already has been broken. As indicated by the 2008 Italian Supreme Court ruling, Italy violated its own constitution by depriving Amanda of her human rights under Italian law when they did not provide her with a lawyer during interrogations.

Next, Dershowitz claims that it was found forensically that multiple individuals had to have committed the crime. On the contrary, in the summary of the judges’ motivations for the first trial of Knox and Sollecito, all six of the forensic scientists consulted on the matter of the autopsy are cited as having asserted unanimously that the evidence did not allow them to conclude the crime was committed by more than a single attacker. Only by fiat was the lead judge able to reach a decision that defied all of the forensic consultants’ opinions.

If a multiple-attacker theory resulted from the separate, individual trial for Rudy Guede (the person who was convicted of the murder), it is irrelevant to the guilt of Knox and Sollecito, as Guede’s court’s duty was to rule exclusively on Guede, not to identify potential abettors.

Finally, Dershowitz states that the person who was convicted of the murder said Amanda did it. Yet, before he was arrested, Rudy Guede, having seen news coverage about the crime, confided to a friend in a recorded conversation that Amanda Knox was not at the cottage the night of the murder. Hence, it is just as accurate to state that Guede said Amanda did not do it.

It was not until four months later, after continuous consultations (persuasions?) with his attorneys and the attorneys working for the prosecution case, that Rudy Guede officially accused Knox and Sollecito of involvement. Over time, Guede had told a number of stories, all of which excluded himself as the actual murderer. Dershowitz can give Guede credibility if he wants to, but he should keep in mind that none of Guede’s proposed versions of the crime has ever matched any of the prosecutors’ proposed versions of the crime.

To summarize, the evidence Alan Dershowitz has offered above is much, much less than considerable.

Regarding the extradition process, on which Dershowitz also commented in the CNN interview, it should go without saying that the process is not simply a matter of quid pro quo between nations. A legitimate case must be made for every request, and every case must be studied carefully. A truly in-depth study of this case always finds not only no evidence for Knox’s guilt, but also reveals that she was falsely accused, falsely imprisoned and falsely convicted.

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I don't know why so many people can't just accept that Knox and Sollictoe are both guilty as well.

Not sure if it's American racism or just plain old sexism!

[DAS (formerly BushAdmirer)]

The notoriety of this case has turned it into a finger pointing spectacle. There are spectators worldwide, and they're choosing sides, as if rooting for a sports team. A mediocre prosecutor, flawed judicial processes, and sensational tabloid style news reporting have turned it into a bit of a circus. All you need for a successful TV crime drama is sex, crime, and a pretty girl. This has all of that.

[♫anna♫]

Jun 21, 2014 13:14:42 GMT DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) said:

The notoriety of this case has turned it into a finger pointing spectacle. There are spectators worldwide, and they're choosing sides, as if rooting for a sports team. A mediocre prosecutor, flawed judicial processes, and sensational tabloid style news reporting have turned it into a bit of a circus. All you need for a successful TV crime drama is sex, crime, and a pretty girl. This has all of that.

The crime is horrible, but in reality quite simple. Career criminal Rudi Guede was on the prowl and threw a rock into a back window of the home where Meredith Kercher, Amanda Knox and other women students had their rooms. Since there was no reaction he climbed into the apartment. He robbed, raped and murdered Meredith Kercher in a cruel and sadistic manner.

When Mignini's goon squad police started investigating all the girls living in the house got lawyers because it was that clear the police were trying to incriminate them in Meredith's murder. Only Amanda Knox naively volunteered to submit to repeated 4 hour plus grueling enhanced interrogations by Mignini's inquisitors. She grew up believing the police were there to help and thought very naively that she could clear up what she ignorantly thought were "misunderstandings" and she only ended up in a state of confusion and exhaustion and made some confused statements.

The whole case is a farce.

Rudi Guede claims slanderously that Meredith Kercher invited him over because she wanted to have sex with him. We're supposed to believe that Knox and Sollecito brought that huge kitchen knife over from Sollecito's apartment just in case Meredith Kercher changed her mind about having sex with Guede. This is just so outrageously absurd.

Seeing this farce of a case confirms to me how braindead gullible people can be. Shocking!

[♫anna♫]

The murder retrial of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito will begin soon. They can only be acquitted.

The prosecution claims Meredith Kercher must have been restrained because there was no dna evidence found under her fingernails.

My suspicion is that rudi guede like many experienced rapists and criminals knows that if you violently rape a woman you will be scratched and bitten. The serial killer g. schaefer in his evil "killer fiction" rants described how he would hold a knife to one of the victim's eye and warn her that if she scratched or bit him he would gogue her eye out. IMO guede made a similiar threat to Meredith and thus Meredith only tried to escape from the predator and didn't dare use any counter force against him.

[♫anna♫]

The Italian Supreme Court has not yet concluded if Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito will be retried or have the charges dismissed.

[Big Lin]

Let's hope they make the right decision and retry them.

Both are guilty as hell!

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I think they are guilty too. I hope justice is served.

What does this Randy guy have to say about the involvement to of Knox and Sollecito?

[♫anna♫]

The bulk of the so called "evidence" comes from the unfilmed 4 hour plus enhanced interrogation of Amanda Knox. I'm confident that if a film of this interrogation were ever presented the so called "confession" would be completely discredited.

Nov 7, 2014 15:15:49 GMT @biglin said:

I find it very sad that too many people seem willing to take the self-obsessed, prima donna and utterly cold-hearted b***h Knox as some kind of victim.

She's expressed not the slightest compassion for poor Meredith at any stage.

I've been to the funerals for a number of my relatives and I don't recall anyone breaking down in uncontrolable crying as would perhaps happen in funerals in countries like Italy. Northern Europeans try to control and conceal their grief in public. It has nothing to do with "coldheartedness". The attempt to claim that because Knox didn't make a public display of her grief over Meredith's death makes her a "psychopath" is an outrage.

[Big Lin]

Here's a quick recap of why three people were involved in Meredith's murder and why two of them were Knox and Sollecito.


More than one person attacked Meredith Kercher. From the time of Rudy Guede's final sentencing,[1] the Court has accepted that more than one person attacked Meredith Kercher, with an unusually strong report that pointed towards Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito as the other attackers. Meredith was dressed, awake, and standing for the attack, yet did not defend herself. Unusually, she had no defensive wounds but for three tiny (0.24 inch or 6 mm) cuts on her hand[2], indicating an inability to express normal reflexes, flinch from the small cuts to her neck, or attempt to block the incoming blows with her hands or forearms. Indeed, in addition to wounds which fit two different knife profiles[3], she suffered numerous compression or restraint bruises to her elbows, wrists, and face. At the trial, consultants for Knox and Sollecito each proposed a single-attacker scenario but could not agree whether this lone wolf had attacked from the front (Torre, Amanda's consultant) or from behind (Introna, Raffaele's consultant).[4] At the appeal, under Judge Hellmann, Sollecito's defense team introduced two witnesses to testify first, that Guede had acted with two people other than Knox and Sollecito, and second, that two people excluding Guede had carried out the attack after mistakenly entering the home. The Supreme Court faulted Judge Hellmann for ignoring their sentence of Guede and supporting the single-wolf theory, which they found unsupported by the facts. They directed the new Appeals Court in Florence to see what evidence ties Rudy Guede together with Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito in the cottage at the same time. Judge Nencini re-examined the evidence and concluded that "we know with certainty, as this is shown by the evidence, that immediately after the homicide inside the Via della Pergola cottage three people were present, surely two men and a woman."[5]

Someone returned to move Meredith. As is detailed by Judge Micheli (who convicted Guede for his part and committed Knox and Sollecito to trial to answer for the evidence of theirs) Meredith's body was discovered in a position and location different from that in which she died, judging by the lividity reported by the medical examiner and an indentation in her shoulder of a bra strap (with a corresponding impression on the floor). She had died and rested on her shoulder to the right of the room, wearing her bra, and was moved to center of the room and her bra discarded at her feet, soaked through but nowhere near any blood. He notes that the blood droplets on the cups show she was wearing the bra while still breathing, but her chest, which the bra had been covering, remained clean, indicating no breaths were being drawn when or after the bra was removed.

The bra clasp, cut or torn off from the bra the victim was wearing and originally hidden under the victim, had Raffaele's DNA on the hooks. No plausible argument for contamination was successfully made. Stefano Conti, the independent reviewer who testified to this point, could only suppose that "anything is possible." The Supreme Court strongly rejected that finding, and Judge Hellmann's acceptance of it, stating that the contamination must be proven likely, and not merely presented as a hypothetical possibility.

The knife recovered at Sollecito's apartment contained the victim and Amanda Knox's DNA. In her court testimony Carla Vecchiotti, one of the pair of independent experts who reviewed the DNA evidence at the first appeal, as well as forensic scientists from the Scientific Police, ruled out contamination in the laboratory with respect to the knife, owing to the six-day interval since testing items related to the Kercher case. When confronted with the knife DNA result in 2007, Raffaele responded with a fabricated story about accidentally pricking Meredith's hand while they were cooking together. Meredith had never been to his flat, and they had never cooked together.[6] The Supreme Court ruled the Scientific Police's findings must stand, absent any new proof. Another trace containing human DNA was found on the blade of the knife [7] by the independent reviewers, Stefano Conti and Carla Vecchiotti, who argued the trace was too minute too test, even though renowned forensic expert Professor Novelli argued that newer, more sensitive tests would be quite able to successfully test the sample. This test was performed in October 2013 and found to be Knox's DNA.

A bare footprint made in the victim's blood was discovered on the mat in the bathroom. Rudy's bloody shoe prints lead from Meredith's room directly down the hall and out the front door. The bathroom print, which could not have been made by Rudy Guede, is highly compatible with Raffaele Sollecito's right foot. His defense presented a footprint diagram in the Massei court, in an attempt to prove it couldn't be his client's. However, the judge ruled it was more compatible with Raffaele, and completely ruled out that it could have been Rudy's.

Knox's DNA was found mixed with the victim's blood in the room where the burglary was staged, and in the bathroom they shared; some of this blood was Amanda's. Amanda testified that the bathroom was clean the day before the murder.

Footprints compatible with Knox and Sollecito's, and made in the victim's blood, were discovered when the forensic investigators tested the crime scene with luminol.

The burglary was staged, and there is no reason for this to have been done, other than to throw suspicion onto others. Broken glass had fallen on top of the scattered objects, meaning the window was broken after the ransacking, and Luminol revealed the presence of two traces of the victim's blood on the floor, showing conclusively that whomever had tracked it in had done so after the girl was dead. Raffaele knew nothing had been stolen in the course of this supposed burglary, assuring the 112 (911) operator of this fact well before the occupant of the room had come home and verified it for herself.[8][9]

Amanda Knox misled police by suggesting that Meredith’s locked door was not suspicious. In her email home Amanda relates a scene of rising panic as she and Raffaele shout for Meredith, and climb the balcony to try to see in her window, Raffaele attempts to force the door open, but only splinters the frame. She says it was then they decided to call the police. Despite all this concern, they did not mention the door, or their worries about Meredith, to the communications police, who arrived unexpectedly to return Meredith's discarded cellphones. Filomena and her friends arrived shortly thereafter, and it was Filomena who said that it was not Meredith's habit to lock her door. Amanda falsely offered that this was not true: Meredith had locked it before, even to take a shower. The Supreme Court rules this is in itself proof of an attempt to prevent the discovery of the body, with all the implications that has for her guilt.

Knox and Sollecito's alibis are contradicted by each other, by physical evidence and by witness testimony. While this does not directly implicate them in the murder, they have clearly lied about what they did on the night of the murder and the following morning. It is inconceivable that they would risk lying about their activities if they were not involved in Meredith's murder. It is one thing to claim they cannot remember due to the influence of drugs. It is another to knowingly lie. The recent ruling confirms that they lied repeatedly.

Raffaele withdrew support for Knox's alibi, claiming that he lied at her request. He elected to not testify, and he refused to confirm that Knox was with him the night of the murder, for the entire trial. Confronted with the news that Raffaele had ceased to support her alibi, Knox quickly changed her story, placing herself at the cottage and falsely accusing an innocent man of committing the deed.

Amanda Knox's false accusation of her boss Patrick Lumumba. The appeals court has been directed by the Supreme Court to seriously consider this as yet more evidence of her guilt.
Notes

[♫anna♫]

Nov 10, 2014 17:01:55 GMT Big Lin said:

Here's a quick recap of why three people were involved in Meredith's murder and why two of them were Knox and Sollecito.


More than one person attacked Meredith Kercher. From the time of Rudy Guede's final sentencing,[1] the Court has accepted that more than one person attacked Meredith Kercher, with an unusually strong report that pointed towards Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito as the other attackers. Meredith was dressed, awake, and standing for the attack, yet did not defend herself. Unusually, she had no defensive wounds but for three tiny (0.24 inch or 6 mm) cuts on her hand[2], indicating an inability to express normal reflexes, flinch from the small cuts to her neck, or attempt to block the incoming blows with her hands or forearms. Indeed, in addition to wounds which fit two different knife profiles[3], she suffered numerous compression or restraint bruises to her elbows, wrists, and face. At the trial, consultants for Knox and Sollecito each proposed a single-attacker scenario but could not agree whether this lone wolf had attacked from the front (Torre, Amanda's consultant) or from behind (Introna, Raffaele's consultant).[4] At the appeal, under Judge Hellmann, Sollecito's defense team introduced two witnesses to testify first, that Guede had acted with two people other than Knox and Sollecito, and second, that two people excluding Guede had carried out the attack after mistakenly entering the home. The Supreme Court faulted Judge Hellmann for ignoring their sentence of Guede and supporting the single-wolf theory, which they found unsupported by the facts. They directed the new Appeals Court in Florence to see what evidence ties Rudy Guede together with Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito in the cottage at the same time. Judge Nencini re-examined the evidence and concluded that "we know with certainty, as this is shown by the evidence, that immediately after the homicide inside the Via della Pergola cottage three people were present, surely two men and a woman."[5]

Someone returned to move Meredith. As is detailed by Judge Micheli (who convicted Guede for his part and committed Knox and Sollecito to trial to answer for the evidence of theirs) Meredith's body was discovered in a position and location different from that in which she died, judging by the lividity reported by the medical examiner and an indentation in her shoulder of a bra strap (with a corresponding impression on the floor). She had died and rested on her shoulder to the right of the room, wearing her bra, and was moved to center of the room and her bra discarded at her feet, soaked through but nowhere near any blood. He notes that the blood droplets on the cups show she was wearing the bra while still breathing, but her chest, which the bra had been covering, remained clean, indicating no breaths were being drawn when or after the bra was removed.

The bra clasp, cut or torn off from the bra the victim was wearing and originally hidden under the victim, had Raffaele's DNA on the hooks. No plausible argument for contamination was successfully made. Stefano Conti, the independent reviewer who testified to this point, could only suppose that "anything is possible." The Supreme Court strongly rejected that finding, and Judge Hellmann's acceptance of it, stating that the contamination must be proven likely, and not merely presented as a hypothetical possibility.

The knife recovered at Sollecito's apartment contained the victim and Amanda Knox's DNA. In her court testimony Carla Vecchiotti, one of the pair of independent experts who reviewed the DNA evidence at the first appeal, as well as forensic scientists from the Scientific Police, ruled out contamination in the laboratory with respect to the knife, owing to the six-day interval since testing items related to the Kercher case. When confronted with the knife DNA result in 2007, Raffaele responded with a fabricated story about accidentally pricking Meredith's hand while they were cooking together. Meredith had never been to his flat, and they had never cooked together.[6] The Supreme Court ruled the Scientific Police's findings must stand, absent any new proof. Another trace containing human DNA was found on the blade of the knife [7] by the independent reviewers, Stefano Conti and Carla Vecchiotti, who argued the trace was too minute too test, even though renowned forensic expert Professor Novelli argued that newer, more sensitive tests would be quite able to successfully test the sample. This test was performed in October 2013 and found to be Knox's DNA.

A bare footprint made in the victim's blood was discovered on the mat in the bathroom. Rudy's bloody shoe prints lead from Meredith's room directly down the hall and out the front door. The bathroom print, which could not have been made by Rudy Guede, is highly compatible with Raffaele Sollecito's right foot. His defense presented a footprint diagram in the Massei court, in an attempt to prove it couldn't be his client's. However, the judge ruled it was more compatible with Raffaele, and completely ruled out that it could have been Rudy's.

Knox's DNA was found mixed with the victim's blood in the room where the burglary was staged, and in the bathroom they shared; some of this blood was Amanda's. Amanda testified that the bathroom was clean the day before the murder.

Footprints compatible with Knox and Sollecito's, and made in the victim's blood, were discovered when the forensic investigators tested the crime scene with luminol.

The burglary was staged, and there is no reason for this to have been done, other than to throw suspicion onto others. Broken glass had fallen on top of the scattered objects, meaning the window was broken after the ransacking, and Luminol revealed the presence of two traces of the victim's blood on the floor, showing conclusively that whomever had tracked it in had done so after the girl was dead. Raffaele knew nothing had been stolen in the course of this supposed burglary, assuring the 112 (911) operator of this fact well before the occupant of the room had come home and verified it for herself.[8][9]

Amanda Knox misled police by suggesting that Meredith’s locked door was not suspicious. In her email home Amanda relates a scene of rising panic as she and Raffaele shout for Meredith, and climb the balcony to try to see in her window, Raffaele attempts to force the door open, but only splinters the frame. She says it was then they decided to call the police. Despite all this concern, they did not mention the door, or their worries about Meredith, to the communications police, who arrived unexpectedly to return Meredith's discarded cellphones. Filomena and her friends arrived shortly thereafter, and it was Filomena who said that it was not Meredith's habit to lock her door. Amanda falsely offered that this was not true: Meredith had locked it before, even to take a shower. The Supreme Court rules this is in itself proof of an attempt to prevent the discovery of the body, with all the implications that has for her guilt.

Knox and Sollecito's alibis are contradicted by each other, by physical evidence and by witness testimony. While this does not directly implicate them in the murder, they have clearly lied about what they did on the night of the murder and the following morning. It is inconceivable that they would risk lying about their activities if they were not involved in Meredith's murder. It is one thing to claim they cannot remember due to the influence of drugs. It is another to knowingly lie. The recent ruling confirms that they lied repeatedly.

Raffaele withdrew support for Knox's alibi, claiming that he lied at her request. He elected to not testify, and he refused to confirm that Knox was with him the night of the murder, for the entire trial. Confronted with the news that Raffaele had ceased to support her alibi, Knox quickly changed her story, placing herself at the cottage and falsely accusing an innocent man of committing the deed.

Amanda Knox's false accusation of her boss Patrick Lumumba. The appeals court has been directed by the Supreme Court to seriously consider this as yet more evidence of her guilt.
Notes

Please Lin,
Include the link of this IMO discredited source:
themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_Page
the compression bruises would obviously result from rudy g*ede holding Meredith Kercher down. There are many cases of rapists, who know that their victim will defend herself, first intimidating the victim before raping her with a horrific threat like if they resist like cutting an eye out. gu*de, the convicted burglar, was known to carry a knife and to prevent all resistance he intimidated Meredith in some horrible manner so Meredith only tried to flee from her attacker.

g*ede used the shower after he murdered Meredith and likely returned to her dead body and moved it and removed her bra.

The claim that Meredith's Kercher's dna was found on the knife taken from Raffaele Sollecito's apartment has been refuted and shown as untrue:
www.nydailynews.com/news/world/amanda-knox-trial-forensic-tests-find-new-traces-victim-dna-knife-article-1.1504734
Amanda Knox trial: New forensic tests find no traces of Meredith Kercher's DNA on knife
An appeals court is reviewing charges against American student Amanda Knox and her ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito in the 2007 murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia, Italy. Experts who analyzed a third previously unexamined trace of DNA found Knox’s genetic material, but no evidence of Kercher.

There's nothing suspicious about Amanda Knox's and Raffaele Sollecito's dna being present in the living room where gu*de walked through leaving bloody footprints behind. The dna of the other 2 girls living there as well the dna of previous residents and visitors was present too.

[Big Lin]

You want to believe in their innocence regardless of the evidence; there is already overwhelming evidence that all three were guilty of murdering Meredith Kercher.

We won't agree on that but never mind.

[♫anna♫]

Nov 17, 2014 23:38:55 GMT Big Lin said:

You want to believe in their innocence regardless of the evidence; there is already overwhelming evidence that all three were guilty of murdering Meredith Kercher.

We won't agree on that but never mind.

Lin, I don't see how any of this is "evidence". The prosecution has been heavily outspending the defense for Knox and Sollecito and apparently they've hired "expert witnesses" who for a fee will say what the prosecution wants said. The claim that Meredith must have been held down by others doesn't stand up.
An experienced rapist knows how to intimidate the victim into making no attempt to scratch, punch or in any way resist the predator. Meredith only tried to flee, but sadly Meredith didn't get very far. g*ede had the knife and she didn't want to have an eye gouged out for resisting him. I assume g*ede was quick too. He constantly practiced basketball on a court not far from the apartment where Meredith was murdered.

G*ede has never retracted his claim that Meredith personally invited him to her apartment because according to him Meredith wanted to have sex with him.

What a disgusting and slanderous lie!

[Big Lin]

Anna, if I wanted to I could post loads more evidence that has long since convinced me that three people were involved and that two of them were Sollecito and Knox.

We're never going to agree on this one and I'm honestly quite baffled as to why you bother to champion this pair of cold-hearted people who have never shed a tear except for themselves.

But that's your privilege just as it's mine to believe in their guilt.

I think the evidence is on my side but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[♫anna♫]

Nov 20, 2014 22:18:30 GMT Big Lin said:

Anna, if I wanted to I could post loads more evidence that has long since convinced me that three people were involved and that two of them were Sollecito and Knox.

We're never going to agree on this one and I'm honestly quite baffled as to why you bother to champion this pair of cold-hearted people who have never shed a tear except for themselves.

But that's your privilege just as it's mine to believe in their guilt.

I think the evidence is on my side but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Knox was only in Italy about 3 weeks before Meredith was murdered.

Watching a Southern European funeral where the family and relatives of the deceased cry and sob uninhibited in public doesn't mean that the Northern Europeans are cold hearted and more likely to commit murder when they hold their grief and pain over a lost family in at a funeral and prefer to cry in privacy.

In the US and UK the confused statements that Knox made during the extended enhanced interrogation would be inadmissible if no film of the interrogation was presented to dispell claims of undue pressure. Why would Knox volunteer to be interrogated if she was guilty. The other girl in the apartment referred the interrogators to her family lawyer after they asked her a second time if she knew rudi guede. Knox was simply naive to submit to an interrogation where the same questions were repeatedly asked.

There was no bleach used in Meredith's room to eliminate evidence. The prosecution's lies and attempts to bias the public have been exposed.

Shame on Italy!

[Big Lin]

I think we've reached the point where nothing I say and no amount of evidence will change your mind, Anna.

But that's fine; I always welcome different points of view.

I think you've been hoodwinked by the Knox propaganda machine.

But let's wait and see how the wheels of justice roll.