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Post by jean on Feb 20, 2014 8:35:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 14:49:50 GMT
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Post by Big Lin on Feb 26, 2014 20:56:09 GMT
The motive was obvious. Meredith was a very attractive girl!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 21:37:59 GMT
It was jealousy, I agree. Meredith was pretty and very popular with lots of friends to boot.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 9, 2014 19:05:42 GMT
Raffaele Sollecito and his lawyers are attempting to seperate their appeal and their case in general from that of Amanda Knox. Sollecito was only charged for murder because he refused to assist the prosecution with a false testimony against Knox.
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Post by Big Lin on Mar 10, 2014 23:00:49 GMT
~Anna, you and I will never agree on this case. I think all three convicted defendants were guilty; you think only one of them were.
I'm reminded irresistibly of the defenders of Darlie Routier.
There is abundant physical and DNA evidence linking Sollecito as well as Knox and Guede.
But I can no more persuade you of their guilt than I can persuade racists that their prejudices are silly, irrational and dangerous.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 11, 2014 5:34:14 GMT
~Anna, you and I will never agree on this case. I think all three convicted defendants were guilty; you think only one of them were. I'm reminded irresistibly of the defenders of Darlie Routier. There is abundant physical and DNA evidence linking Sollecito as well as Knox and Guede. But I can no more persuade you of their guilt than I can persuade racists that their prejudices are silly, irrational and dangerous. Dearest Lin, We need facts to convict. Neither Knox nor Sollecito have any history of violence. There was no dna from Knox or Sollecito on Meredith's body. No single hair from the defendents nothing. The talk of the blood of Amanda and Meredith being mixed was simply traces of menstrual blood in the shower and tabloid trash reports.
Knox was convicted because she naively believed the interrogators just were misunderstanding things. She should have broke off the interrogation like the other girls did after they realized the interrogators were trying to frame them and they got lawyers. All of them can testify to these "enhanced interrogations" that Mignini ordered and Knox was subjected to.
Knox had a good opinion of all police in general and believed Mignini's investigators sincerely wanted to help. After 4 hours of exhausting interrogation which apparently wasn't filmed or the film is being withheld Knox began to make confused statements. She parroted her interrogator's repeated claim that Patrick Lumumba was at the murder scene and made several other confused statements, which she immediately retracted, and that seems to be the basis of the conviction.
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Post by Big Lin on Mar 11, 2014 15:04:54 GMT
That's opinion and spin rather than facts. Actually both Sollecito and Knox DID have DNA found there, there WERE traces of blood on Meredith's body and if you say that 'no history of violence' that means that no one except a serial killer could ever be convicted of murder.
You have bought into the Knox media circus that has cleverly manipulated public opinion in the US but when you look at it in the cold light of day you see three killers.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 11, 2014 15:22:01 GMT
That's opinion and spin rather than facts. Actually both Sollecito and Knox DID have DNA found there, there WERE traces of blood on Meredith's body and if you say that 'no history of violence' that means that no one except a serial killer could ever be convicted of murder. You have bought into the Knox media circus that has cleverly manipulated public opinion in the US but when you look at it in the cold light of day you see three killers. Sollecito's dna was possibly present in a mini-miscrosopic amount because he and Amanda tried to open the door to Meredith's room and when the police arrived they also touched the doorknob that they touched and possibly transmitted a miscrosopic amount of dna into the crime scene where allegedly Sollecito's was found on Meredith's bra which the investigators had amateurly handled.
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Post by Big Lin on Mar 12, 2014 20:46:35 GMT
IMO there's about as much credibility to the ever-changing excuses used by Knox and Sollecito as there is in the elaborate fantasy put forward by Oscar Pistorius.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 13, 2014 1:46:58 GMT
IMO there's about as much credibility to the ever-changing excuses used by Knox and Sollecito as there is in the elaborate fantasy put forward by Oscar Pistorius. Dearest Lin, Pistorius is slam dunk guilty of murder and even he admits to killing Reeva Steenkamp and his self defense claim is a laugh.
Knox and Sollecito were framed by a bigoted and corrupt judical system. Something you could expect in the 3rd world.
Shame on Italy!
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 29, 2014 20:27:18 GMT
Today the Italian courts gave the reasons for their 'guilty' verdict - adding that in their opinion Knox struck the fatal blow that killed Meredith. www.aol.com/article/2014/04/29/italy-court-knox-kercher-fought-on-day-of-murder/20877675/An appeals court in Florence upheld the convictions of U.S. student Amanda Knox and her ex-boyfriend for the 2007 murder of her British roommate. Knox was sentenced to 28 1/2 years in prison, raising the specter of a long legal battle over her extradition. After nearly 12 hours of deliberation Thursday the court reinstated the guilty verdict first handed down against Knox and Raffaele Sollecito in 2009. (AP Photo/Fabrizio Giovannozzi) MILAN (AP) -- An Italian court that convicted Amanda Knox in her roommate's 2007 murder said in lengthy reasoning made public Tuesday that the victim's wounds indicate multiple aggressors, and that the two exchange students fought over money on the night of the murder. The appellate court in Florence explained the January guilty verdicts against the American student and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito in a 337-page document that examined both the evidence and the motive. The court said that a third person convicted in the murder, Rudy Hermann Guede, did not act alone, and cited the nature of the victim's wounds. It noted that at least two knives were used to attack 21-year-old Meredith Kercher and that there were also finger imprints on her body, indicating she had been restrained. The court said there was ample evidence of a bad relationship between the two roommates, despite Knox's attempts to play down differences in court, and cited statements by Guede under police questioning that Kercher had blamed Knox for taking money from the British student's room. `'It is a matter of fact that at a certain point in the evening events accelerated; the English girl was attacked by Amanda Marie Knox, by Raffaele Sollecito, who was backing up his girlfriend, and by Rudy Hermann Guede, and constrained within her own room," the document said. The court said it was not necessary for all of the assailants to have the same motive, and that the murder was not attributable to a sex game gone awry, as it was out of Kercher's character to have ever consented to such activity. The release of the court's reasoning opens the verdict to an appeal back to the supreme Court of Cassation. If it confirms the convictions, a long extradition fight for Knox is expected. She has been in the United States since 2011 when her earlier conviction was overturned. Kercher was found dead in a pool of blood in the apartment she and Knox shared in the town of Perugia, on Nov. 2, 2007. Her throat had been slashed and she had been sexually assaulted. Knox and Sollecito were arrested four days later and served four years in prison before an appeals court acquitted them in 2011. Knox returned to the U.S. Italy's high court later threw out that acquittal and ordered a new trial, resulting in January's conviction. The court sentenced Knox to 28 1/2 years in prison and Sollecito to 25 years. The courts have cast wildly different versions of events. Knox and Sollecito were convicted of murder and sexual assault in the first trial based on DNA evidence, confused alibis and Knox's false accusation against a Congolese bar owner, for which she was also convicted of slander. Then an appeals court in Perugia dismantled the murder verdicts, criticizing the "building blocks" of the conviction, including DNA evidence deemed unreliable by new experts, and lack of motive. That acquittal was scathingly vacated in March 2013 by Italy's highest court, which ordered a new appeals trial to examine evidence and hear testimony it said had been improperly omitted by the Perugia appeals court, and to redress what it identified as lapses in logic. The third defendant, Guede, was convicted in a separate trial of sexually assaulting and stabbing Kercher. His 16-year sentence - reduced on appeal from 30 years - was upheld in 2010 by Italy's highest court, which said he had not acted alone. Guede, a drug dealer who fled Italy after the killing and was extradited from Germany, acknowledges that he was in Kercher's room the night she died but denies killing her.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 30, 2014 1:15:00 GMT
Today the Italian courts gave the reasons for their 'guilty' verdict - adding that in their opinion Knox struck the fatal blow that killed Meredith. www.aol.com/article/2014/04/29/italy-court-knox-kercher-fought-on-day-of-murder/20877675/The appellate court in Florence explained the January guilty verdicts against the American student and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito in a 337-page document that examined both the evidence and the motive. The court said that a third person convicted in the murder, Rudy Hermann Guede, did not act alone, and cited the nature of the victim's wounds. It noted that at least two knives were used to attack 21-year-old Meredith Kercher and that there were also finger imprints on her body, indicating she had been restrained. Of course Meredith Kercher was restrained by the rapist predator g*ede, whose semen was in Meredith's body. She was resisting with all her strength and g*ede was giving here non lethal knife stabs expecting her to submit to being raped. The predator is extremely strong and athletic and didn't need help to restrain Meredith. The bloody imprints of the knife that g*ede laid down next to Meredith while she was resisting and he ( it ) was restraining. www.injusticeinperugia.org/TheKnife.html Meredith continued her violent resistance despite being nonlethally stabbed repeatedly and the predator angered stabbed her fatally and raped her while she was dying. This is ridiculous! The Italian court justified it's guilty verdict against Amanda Knox by claiming she was the one who delivered the fatal knife blow. Even though forensic tests concluded that the kitchen knife from Raffaele Sollecito's apartment was NOT used to kill Meredith Kercher.
www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/29/amanda-knox-slams-italian-court-reasoning-on-guilt-am-innocent/ QUOTE: Amanda Knox slams Italian court reasoning on guilt: 'I am innocent' April 29, 2014 SEATTLE – Amanda Knox says an Italian appeals court's reasons for reinstating the conviction against her in the murder of her roommate are unsupported by evidence or logic.
On Monday, the court issued its explanation for reinstating Knox's conviction, saying it was she who delivered the fatal knife blow to 21-year-old Meredith Kercher in 2007.
Knox was first convicted, then acquitted, in Kercher's slaying. The acquittal was vacated last year by Italy's highest court, which ordered a new appeals trial, and she was convicted again.
In a written statement Knox said "I am innocent." She said forensic evidence refutes the appeals court's theory that more than one person attacked Kercher and that a small kitchen knife was used in the murder.
Knox says she will appeal to Italy's Supreme Court.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 30, 2014 16:05:22 GMT
Well, you wouldn't expect Amanda Knox to say anything different, would you?
But two juries and three sets of judges have seen far more of the evidence than you or I ever will and they came to the conclusion that she WAS guilty,
And most non-Americans (and even many Americans) AGREE with that verdict.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 5, 2014 1:44:23 GMT
The "evidence" against Knox and Sollecito comes solely from the predator rapist murderer g*ede. The claim that money was stolen from Meredith Kercher and that she and Knox got in an argument over this stems solely from the liar g*ede.
This is a scandalous repeat of the trial of an innocent man, Lucas Goodrum, for the Kentucky State university murder of Katie Autry in 2003. The lone rapist murderer s*ules was allowed to plea bargain the death penalty away in return for testimony against a non-existent cohort. The predator named the completely innocent Lucas Goodrum, who was fortunately declared innocent at his death penalty trial.
The prosecution apparently made a deal with g*ede too and unjustly reduced his sentence in return for his scandalous, perjurious testimony.
edition.cnn.com/2014/05/01/us/amanda-knox-interview/index.html?hpt=us_c2 CNN exclusive: Amanda Knox says, 'I did not kill my friend' May 4, 2014
New York (CNN) -- If she had been at the scene of the crime, forensic evidence would prove her guilt, but Amanda Knox says there is nothing -- no DNA, no hair, no footprints, no handprints -- to show she was there.
Knox spoke in an exclusive interview with CNN on Thursday, two days after an Italian court released an explanation of her conviction. Author: Amanda Knox is innocent
In a retrial, Knox and Raffaele Sollecito, her then-boyfriend, were found guilty in the 2007 death of Meredith Kercher, Knox's onetime roommate. Amanda Knox: 'I did not kill my friend' Judge slams Knox conviction report
"I did not kill my friend. I did not wield a knife. I had no reason to," Knox said.
"In the month that we that we were living together, we were becoming friends. A week before the murder occurred, we went out to a classical music concert together ... We had never fought."
Knox struggled to speak at moments in the interview, seemingly overcome by emotion and thoughts of Kercher. But, for the most part, she was calm, collected and methodical in how she broke down arguments in the case. Photos: The case against Amanda Knox Photos: The case against Amanda Knox
In its more than 300-page document, the Florence appeals court said a third person convicted in the murder, Rudy Guede, did not act alone, and cited the nature of the victim's wounds.
Ruling Judge Alessandro Nencini, who presided over the second appeal in the case, said Kercher and Knox disagreed over the payment of the rent in the house they shared in Perugia and that "there was an argument then an elevation and progression of aggression."
Knox dismissed those allegations out of hand.
"If I were there, I would have traces of Meredith's broken body on me. And I would have left traces of myself around -- around Meredith's corpse," she said.
"And I -- I am not there. And that proves my innocence."
'I'm not that person'
When asked what type of person Judge Nencini must think she is, Knox cited his report.
"He believes the prosecutor when the prosecutor describes me as a person who was capable of not only completely disturbing everyone around me, but then getting drugged up," she said, trailing off.
"But I'm not that person. And the evidence doesn't show that."
She said she has been haunted by how people perceived her behavior in the immediate aftermath of the murder.
Knox was filmed kissing Sollecito outside the murder scene. At the police station, she reportedly sat on Sollecito's lap, making faces. She told Kercher's friends she must have suffered.
"I think it's true that people seemed to have had a kind of tunnel vision in my regard and that has been something that I've been having to fight against for a long time," Knox said.
The Florence court in January said that Knox, who also was convicted of slander, was sentenced in absentia to 28 1/2 years in prison. Sollecito's sentence was 25 years.
They were first convicted of murder in 2009, but those verdicts were overturned on appeal in 2011.
Claudio Hellman, the judge who tossed their convictions, has lashed out at colleagues.
"The Florence Appeal Court has written a script for a movie or a thriller book while it should have only considered facts and evidence. There is no evidence to condemn Knox and Sollecito," said the judge in a scathing statement obtained by CNN.
"It's a verdict that, seems to me, is the result of fantasy and has nothing to do with evidence."
Guede is the only person in jail for the slaying, and many aspects of the crime remain unexplained.
'It's not a complex case'
Knox's conviction has raised questions about her possible extradition to Italy to serve her sentence, since she was in the United States and did not attend the retrial. She gets one more appeal -- to Italy's highest court.
She said she thought the Florence appeals court would find her innocent, and was caught by surprise when it didn't.
"As this case has progressed, the evidence that the prosecution has claimed exists against me has been proven less and less and less. And all that has happened is that they've filled these holes with speculation," she said.
Separately, Knox added: "What I keep seeing in this case is trying to put an artificial complexity to it. It's not a complex case."
If Italy's highest court affirms her conviction, the country could ask for her to be sent back to Italy, where she spent four years in prison awaiting and during her first trial. U.S. authorities would then have to decide whether to extradite.
Knox said she is hopeful such a scenario can be avoided and that her next appeal will be successful.
She is optimistic her life in limbo will finally be resolved.
"From this whole experience, especially in prison where you have to take everything day by day, right now I'm having to take everything step by step. And if I think about everything that I could possibly be facing, it's way too overwhelming for me to even conceive," Knox said.
"I truly believe that it is possible to win this, and to bring an end to all of the speculation and the nonsensical theories, and really bring peace to everyone who has suffered."
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 6, 2014 16:58:13 GMT
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito have absolutely no history of evil. There is no charlie m*nson brainwashing them. People like them don't associate with derelict criminals like g*ede. There was no dna from Knox or Sollecito under Meredith Kercher's fingernails.
"Expert witnesses" make a lot of money for their testimony and they can always be found for the prosecution and the defense. An expert witness, a psychatrist Dr. Eliseo, received a fat payment to diagnose the serial killer g*cy as a schizophrenic. If he didn't make the diagnose Dr. Eliseo would have missed a fat pay check.
If g*ede had a cohort it was someone from his criminal underworld who broke into the home with him and maybe wore gloves the whole time. The claim that Knox and Sollecito instructed g*ede to fake a break in after the murder is ridiculous.
The liar and career criminal g*ede is the star witness for the prosecution. This liar continues to desecrate Meredith Kercher's memory and reputation by claiming it was Meredith who invited her in and they had consensual sex together.
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Post by Big Lin on May 6, 2014 20:14:52 GMT
Even serial killers usually start with just one victim.
Most murderers only kill one person.
The fact that someone hasn't killed before doesn't mean a thing - if it did most murderers would be declared innocent.
The facts aren't quite as clear-cut as you like to make out, Anna; I posted some while back about how there was overwhelming evidence of both DNA and blood which could ONLY have come from Amanda Knox and Rafael Sollecito.
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Post by Big Lin on May 6, 2014 21:12:16 GMT
www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/06/amanda-knox-cctv-footage_n_5273555.html?utm_hp_ref=crime&ir=CrimeAmanda Knox's Alibi Appears Challenged By CCTV Footage: TV Show Posted: 05/06/2014 10:58 am EDT Updated: 3 hours ago CCTV footage released by an Italian investigative TV show casts doubt over Amanda Knox's alibi in the case of the murder of her roommate Meredith Kercher. The Italian investigative program Quarto Grado released a video appearing to show a woman resembling Amanda Knox walking through a car park near the roommates' home in the Italian town of Perugia. The footage is timestamped 20:53 on November 1, 2007, the night of Meredith Kercher's murder. According to The Independent, Quarto Grado claimed the jeans and long coat the woman in the video is wearing are similar to those worn by Knox in the aftermath of Kercher's death. The investigative show also said it found similarities between the woman's walk and the way Knox is seen walking in public footage. (Screenshot from Quarto Grado) If it would be confirmed that the woman in the video is Knox, the footage would cast severe doubt on Knox's alibi for the night of the murder. The American student always maintained she spent the evening at the home of her then-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito. Knox and Sollecito were found guilty of Kercher's murder in 2009, and spent four years in an Italian jail before their verdict was overturned and Knox returned to the U.S. But in January, an Italian court reinstated their guilty verdicts and Knox now faces 28 ½ years in Italian prison. She has vowed to fight extradition to Italy if the verdict is upheld in the next appeal. According to Quarto Gardo, the same CCTV camera appears to have captured Kercher walking through the car park just a few minutes earlier. Rudy Guede, who was convicted separately of Kercher's killing and is serving 16 years in jail also appears to have been filmed. One expert following the case told The Times that the CCTV footage was known to the prosecution and defense in Knox's trial, but was not regarded as useful to either side. "If the prosecution shows someone like Amanda Knox walking away from the crime scene it’s not helpful," Barbie Latza Nadeau told the newspaper. "For the defense, if there is a video of her anywhere near the house it’s not helpful to them because her alibi is that she was at Raffaele’s house." Last week, the Italian court that convicted Knox and Sollecito released documents explaining their reasoning. The court argued that it believed Knox and Sollecito had attacked Kercher with knives, and that the American student had inflicted the fatal injury. Knox responded with a statement maintaining that no forensic evidence links her to the crime.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 8, 2014 5:08:13 GMT
Dearest Lin, I need facts. a grainy video that may be been concocted way after the murder or shows a woman with some ressemblance to Knox is not a conviction. g*ede's hodge podge testimony claiming he saw Amanda's silhouette doesn't hold water. Well lets look at the alleged Amanda video.
And here's someone that rebukes the claim that Amanda's blood was mixed up with the predator and Meredith's dna. Yes Amanda shouldn't have used the shower-agreed. But that doesn't make her a murderer.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 7:59:29 GMT
Did the pathology show more than one assailant i am confused
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