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Post by Hunny on Apr 9, 2013 11:01:21 GMT
Tell us your thoughts... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067155I dont want to say too much, as I havent lived in England since I was a child, so what would i really know. But I dont care for "conservative" politics..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 14:05:39 GMT
Hunny, I didn't care for the woman's politics and I think she did more harm than good for the country.
But she's dead, and I certainly won't be celebrating that. There is a great deal of whooping and celebrating on some message boards which is pretty distasteful.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 9, 2013 14:39:21 GMT
I don't think Thatcher WAS a conservative. She was the biggest revolutionary for years.
I'd say about 80% of what she did was harmful and 20% positive.
But celebrating her death is despicable.
Mike has a better take on it than me because I was only 12 when she stood down while he was 20 when she came to power.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Apr 9, 2013 23:57:13 GMT
Loved the way she handled the Falklands Islands dispute with Argentina. She was one tough lady.
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Post by sadie1263 on Apr 10, 2013 14:02:25 GMT
Celebrating anyone's death is disturbing.
Thought Thatcher was a trailblazer for strong women in politics. She was spunky and didn't take any nonsense. As I don't and never have lived in England....I can't say what her ultimate legacy will be.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 10, 2013 19:40:55 GMT
Celebrating anyone's death is disturbing. Thought Thatcher was a trailblazer for strong women in politics. She was spunky and didn't take any nonsense. As I don't and never have lived in England....I can't say what her ultimate legacy will be. Maybe because it was Britain it attracted more notice. Sri Lanka and India both had woman leaders that (except maybe when Indira Gandhi got assassinated) didn't have the same high profile. I think a couple of other countries had women leaders too before her. And certainly we had women Cabinet ministers as far back as the 1920s - and in the 60s apparently Barbara Castle was thought of as a possible Labour Prime Minister and Shirley Williams in the 70s but neither of them did and from what I know about them they were both nicer people and less politically extreme and certainly far less authoritarian than she was She came to power claiming she'd roll back the state but though she privatized a lot of publicly owned things she created a more repressive legal system than before, a more politicised police force and public spending went up under here not down. So I can't really get very enthusiastic about her. I don't think she was much of a role model for women - unlike Wilson, Heath and Callaghan (her three immediate predecessors) she didn't have a single woman in her Cabinet. And she said on more than one occasion that a woman's place was in the home looking after her husband and children which makes her own life a bit hypocritical. And she destroyed British industry, used appalling violence against demonstrators and strikers on the level you'd expect to see in North Korea. So though I certainly won't be celebrating her death I won't be paying tributes to her life either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2013 6:12:14 GMT
Although I agree with most of that, are you sure it was Thatcher who privatised our publicly owned utilities? I always thought that came with John Major.
Oh - you're right! That's odd, because I keep getting told that wasn't Maggie. Well I never did! None of it helped us at all, did it?
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Post by jean guest on Apr 12, 2013 17:29:17 GMT
Thatcher stopped at privatising the railways; it was John Major who carried that one through.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 12, 2013 19:21:52 GMT
Hello Jean. Please rejoin us as a proper member - we miss you!
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