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Post by Big Lin on Mar 5, 2013 20:28:27 GMT
I'd have to agree with you on that, Skylark. Most of us have fantasies but they stay firmly behind closed doors or in our heads.
This case seems to be one where serious problems could have happened.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 5, 2013 23:03:15 GMT
Governments usually don't react seriously in the free world towards these utterances.... unless someone is having violent fantasies about killing government officals or undermining government power. Government always cares for itself first!
As long as the "cannibal cop" doesn't want to eat a president, prime minister or other important government leaders ( sedition laws?? ) he can probably expect the judical prosecution to go nowhere.
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Post by sadie1263 on Mar 5, 2013 23:38:26 GMT
I believe a price was discussed but no money actually was exchanged......but I'm not positive. I will check.
But people in these rooms love the fantasy......the crazy thoughts and the liberty to express those thoughts without being judged...........they let their freak flag fly.......so to speak........so where do you draw the line?
BDSM books are very popular right now.......also because of the 50 Shades books.....to a lesser degree.......some people like to talk dirty......whatever.......also...a lot of women have rape fantasies......it doesn't mean they want to be raped for real..........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 7:15:58 GMT
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Post by sadie1263 on Mar 6, 2013 14:56:51 GMT
I have concerns over this case.........if they are allowed to prosecute fantasies.........where will the line be crossed next?
But.......what about the rights of victims.....and stopping legitimate crime? Will the criminal be able to say it is a fantasy and not get put away.......
What about a person writing and talking about terrorist acts? Don't we want the police to look into those before they happen?
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Post by sadie1263 on Mar 8, 2013 5:32:58 GMT
The FBI arrested Valle after his wife came across troubling late-night online chats in which her husband allegedly laid out plans to abduct, kill and cannibalize various women. The 28-year-old police officer became a tabloid sensation in a case that revolved around sex around the legal implications of engaging in fantasy role playing. Attorneys for Valle said his obsession was a mistake that ruined his life and family, but there is no proof he conspired to carry out all the things he chatted about on the Internet. They tried to demonstrate to the jury that he did not have the tools necessary to carry out the crimes. But prosecutors argued Valle did take steps to carry out the attacks, including looking women up on a law enforcement database and viewing a video clip of how to slaughter a goat, which Waxman called “a practical how-to guide to killing.” Valle’s lawyers contend his wife simply panicked when she came across the online chats, likening it to the 1938 radio broadcast “War of the Worlds,” when unsuspecting listeners thought a story about an alien invasion was a real newscast. His only offense was fantasizing about committing violence against women, the defense said. "That's Gil's porn," defense attorney Julia Gatto said. "Gil has a fetish. He's had it for a long time." usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/07/17226995-fate-of-cannibal-cop-now-in-hands-of-jurors?lite
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Post by sadie1263 on Mar 12, 2013 18:15:29 GMT
A New York City police officer was convicted Tuesday of charges he plotted to kidnap and cook women to dine on their "girl meat" -- a macabre case that subjected jurors to often gory evidence and asked them to separate fantasy from reality. The jury reached the verdict in federal court at the kidnapping conspiracy trial of Officer Gilberto Valle, a 28-year-old father with an admitted fetish for talking on the Internet about cannibalism. Valle's lawyers at what the tabloids dubbed the "Cannibal Cop" trial chose not to hide what they called his "weird proclivities." But they insisted that he was just fantasizing and noted that none of the women were ever harmed. Valle bowed his head and looked teary-eyed when the verdict was announced. He hugged his lawyer, Julia Gatto, who said later that she had been crying. "It's a devastating verdict for us. We poured our hearts and souls into this," said Gatto. "The jury was unable to get past the thoughts," Gatto said. "Obviously, the case involved thoughts that were unusual and bizarre and frankly very ugly." Valle's mother, Elizabeth, shook her head as the verdict was rendered. "I'm in shock and want to be left alone," she said after her son was led away. She said to herself as she sat on a court bench alone: "This is going to kill my mother." Prosecutors declined comment. Valle faces up to life in prison when he is sentenced on June 19. Read more: www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/12/jury-convicts-nyc-police-officer-plot-to-kidnap-and-eat-women/?test=latestnews#ixzz2NLnCYoNb
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Post by Hunny on Mar 12, 2013 19:15:40 GMT
You can get life in prison for plotting a crime ? ..never having actually done anything, just planning?? Life? ?
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 12, 2013 21:05:05 GMT
I'm sure the alledged "wannabe cannibal" will appeal his case.
I sure wouldn't want to meet him in a dark street!
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