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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jan 13, 2013 17:55:27 GMT
A bizarre discovery which appears to be the largest structure ever seen in the universe has astronomers and cosmologists puzzled. It seems to violate Einsteinian physics!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 16:04:31 GMT
Fascinating; I know there have always been some problems with relativity and quantum in terms of making them fit together.
Probably both will eventually have to be changed just like Newton's ideas did.
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Post by toby on Jan 15, 2013 18:32:34 GMT
Toby comments.:-These are all theories though and you have to be clever to challenge them. I once did, at a meeting where so-called clever folk were preening themselves regarding their knowledge of Astronomy and associated Physics, I asked 2 simple questions.
1.If the Universe is expanding, what is it expanding into ? what's on the other side of the Universe. 2.Just after the Big Bang, the Universe was formed in an instant, but how could this be ? given we are told nothing travels faster than light and for the Universe to come into being at the speed of light would take an awfully long time, not in an instant.
The so-called experts sat there with a mouthfull of teeth but no answers. These are good questions to take know-alls down a peg or 2 ! feel free to use them !
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Post by mikemarshall on Jan 15, 2013 21:04:29 GMT
Toby, the points you raise are familiar to philosophers and date back at least as far as the ancient Greeks.
They are also part of the series of antinomies put forward in the eighteenth century by Kant.
Of course it is impossible on the basis of logic to answer the first question because it would violate the law of the excluded middle whereby a thing either is or is not. So, for instance, if the universe is expanding it must be expanding into something else but what could there be beside the universe?
The question of time is rather easier to at least suggest solutions that make a degree of sense. If one adopts the position taken by Kant, Schopenhauer and many other philosophers that space and time are simply mental categories that we impose on our perception rather than representing an actual reality external to ourselves then one can simply say that before perception there could be no time.
It is of course far more difficult for those who prefer the realist account of perception to the idealist one. My own belief is that (with all its faults) idealism gives a truer account of the world than realism and above all realism finds it almost impossible to deal with the problem of error.
But an exalt for raising such a fascinating topic!
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