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Post by Hunny on Dec 8, 2012 10:36:25 GMT
US Supreme Court to rule on gay marriage casesThe US Supreme Court has agreed for the first time to hear challenges to laws banning gay marriage in the US. [/b] The court will hear challenges to the Defense of Marriage Act (Doma), which defines marriage as between a man and a woman. It will also consider Proposition 8, a constitutional amendment in California that overturned a state law allowing gay weddings. The court is likely to hear the cases in March next year. A ruling could be issued in June. Both Proposition 8 and Doma have been previously struck down by lower courts. The Supreme Court has the option of reversing the lower judgements - thus reinstating both laws - or upholding them, which could afford gay weddings legal status under the US Constitution. However, the justices have also reserved the right to decide that they do not have jurisdiction to hear the cases. READ MORE...______________ What a truly backwards time it is when people make such a big deal over who anyone loves. All my life, since childhood, I've seen different segments of the population having to fight to have unfairnesses lifted. Well why were those unfairnesses there in the first place? As I grew up, the adults spoke of the world being so "modern" and "civilized", but meanwhile the National Guard was having to be sent to force people not to discriminate against blacks, and the women were burning bras in protest, and we were bombing people because they couldn't defend themselves, and of course the gays started having to have parades. See that's the thing, the biggest complaint I hear is people don't want to see the parades, well first off huh??? What IS the problem with people not staying hidden away so you don't have to recognize they exist. wtf Secondly, and more to my point, if society wasn't pressuring them to stay closeted they wouldn't have had to start having parades for decades, to try and gain some simple support and fairness in life, in the first place.
I just don't know why it's anyone's business who marries who. But then again I don't have a head full of fairy tale about a giant angry omnipotence who loves us and will burn us forever if we don't behave. THAT religion seems to be the basis to opposition to gays marrying. Well, the hell with Christianity (there, I said it). It's an ugly warrior religion, and I never found it empowering at all when I followed it, quite the opposite I felt obligated to feel guilty about every natural urge, and every little thought, afraid I might go to hell if I didn't keep begging the invisible omnipotence for forgiveness. Screw that. If that religion is the "reason" people think gays shouldn't marry, then IMO they believe something fantastical that isn't real, so they're insane by definition, so they're opinion is discredited, and they shouldn't be weighing in on what we do as a society. (There I said that too!) Religion in government. NO! Politics is crazy enough to begin with.
Now, there are those who will disagree with my view, possibly even take some offense. Please don't. You have the same right to your religious view as I do to mine (as agnostic, or atheist). So it's just a discussion. Please keep it friendly...
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 8, 2012 17:05:49 GMT
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, says the promotion of homosexuality is a Zionist plot. I doubt that the US Supreme Court will agree with him.
In Pakistan, they called the promotion of homosexuality by the U.S. Embassy there an act of cultural terrorism and they had riots over it.
It's interesting to observe the radical change in American attitudes toward homosexuality in my lifetime. It used to be that intolerance toward gays was the norm. They were widely ridiculed as faggots, queers, etc. In my day, if you wanted to insult one of your fellow high school students to the maximum, all you had to do was call him a queer. That was a bit worse than telling him his mother was a whore.
My, how times have changed. Now the norm is just the opposite. Anyone expressing even the slightest intolerance toward homosexuality is ostracized and labelled a bigot. There is nothing more politically incorrect than a slur or disapproval of the gay lifestyle.
The Catholic Church has forever led the charge when it comes to disapproval of homosexual behavior. And yet, that same Catholic Church has been racked by repeated scandals over priests molesting little boys. Some higher church officials have been complicit in covering up such behavior, and in protecting the offending priests.
What a divisive issue. There is no way the Supreme Court can render a decision that won't antagonize and alienate major segments of our society. How courageous of them to open that can of worms.
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