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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 22, 2009 5:15:58 GMT
Lin, you sound as though you have played cricket. I never have, which is perhaps why I can't appreciate its finer points! I have, Skylark, and I loved it. The England women's team has just won the World Cup and before that we won the Ashes! More than the men seem able to do! Men can bowl faster than women (the fastest woman bowler is just about medium-fast or possibly fast-medium while the men have reached speeds of around 100 miles an hour and balls bowled in the 90s are common while most women bowlers can only reach up to the 70s. I was a medium-fast bowler with a mean bouncer and a natural awayswing. I was also a hard-hitting lower order bat who either got out quickly or made rapid 50s or 100s! Defence was NEVER my strong suit if I was batting at the wicket! Defense must be a problem in cricket since, unlike baseball, the players on the field don't use gloves to catch the ball..with the exception of the guy who catches the bowler's throw. It must really hurt to catch a well wacked ball barehanded! In America they'd think you're crazy, if you play baseball without a protective glove to catch the ball.
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Post by chefmate on May 22, 2009 5:18:23 GMT
You got that right.
Those hands have to be toughened to catch balls without a glove......ouch.
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Post by Big Lin on May 22, 2009 15:00:49 GMT
Well, the wicket-keeper wears gloves (though even with gloves on, getting hit on the hand with a proper heavy cricket ball still hurts!)
I guess you just get used to catching the ball in ungloved hands.
When Mike and I went on our Caribbean cruise a few years back the staff of the liner threw a T-shirt over the balcony in a 'game' to see who could catch it.
I caught it (being left-handed helped!) and the guy immediately said, 'ah, must be English, no one else would try to catch it one-handed and without gloves!''
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on May 22, 2009 16:46:59 GMT
Only once in my life did i go to a European socceer game and the fans were so loud and "mob like" that i left in the middle of the game and was relieved to be out of there.. The crowds are amazing...you can feel the energy in a footy ground...awesome experience. The few games I've been to at Anfield have left me physically and emotionally drained. Edit: Sorry Anna, I think you have to be American to like American sports...Hell, I don't like most British sports to be honest with ya! AH
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on May 22, 2009 16:54:51 GMT
Oh, I'm gonna roll with Trubbs on the nominations front...RV is a good poster, massively delusional and totally wrong when he doesn't agree with me of course...but a decent bloke all the same. ;D
AH
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Post by randomvioce on May 23, 2009 16:06:09 GMT
i left in the middle of the game and was relieved to be out of there.. [/quote] That sounds like your averge Soke City fan.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 23, 2009 21:50:33 GMT
Only once in my life did i go to a European socceer game and the fans were so loud and "mob like" that i left in the middle of the game and was relieved to be out of there.. The crowds are amazing...you can feel the energy in a footy ground...awesome experience. The few games I've been to at Anfield have left me physically and emotionally drained. Edit: Sorry Anna, I think you have to be American to like American sports...Hell, I don't like most British sports to be honest with ya! AH There's a lot of heavy drinking at European soceer games! The fans for the visiting team are often segregated in a fenced off section to avoid brawls with the hometown fans.. The fans for the visting team sometimes get a police escort to the train stationto avoid such incidents after the game.. I stay clear of socceer games here! It's only socceer, which Europeans call football, that seems to bring out this mob aggression.
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Post by randomvioce on May 24, 2009 0:43:51 GMT
I stay clear of socceer games here! It's only socceer, which Europeans call football, that seems to bring out this mob aggression. It is called football everywhere. It is only the Americans that call it soccer.
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Post by chefmate on May 24, 2009 2:45:27 GMT
How on earth can soccer be referred to as football? I don't see the similarity at all as we are more physical
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 24, 2009 5:48:25 GMT
How on earth can soccer be referred to as football? I don't see the similarity at all as we are more physical Random Voice is quite correct! The Germans say Fussball for what Americans call socceer and that translates as football. The French just just say "football" too. What i find degrading about socceer. which the rest of the world calls football are these "headers" or knocking the ball with your head. When a socceer/football is flying at 70 miles an hour, you risk brain damage if you hit the ball with your head.. These head butts are a fine art in European football/socceer and games have been won with this tactic. BUT really risking permanent brain damage voluntarily? Not even a boxer would voluntarily risk brain damage, although this risk is inevitable in a boxing ring!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2009 6:46:31 GMT
But I've never heard of a footballersuffering brain damage in this way, Anna. Have there been any incidents? The football is relatively soft even when fully inflated.
We played lacrosse at my school. For those who don't know the game, a hard ball is passed from one player to another through the air, at head height. I was meant to be play in defence, but if the ball came anywhere near my head I used to duck instead of sportingly trying to catch it in my lacrosse stick. I'd only have dropped the beastly thing anyway.
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Post by randomvioce on May 24, 2009 9:38:18 GMT
How on earth can soccer be referred to as football? I don't see the similarity at all as we are more physical You are aware that fooball is a generic name for all these sports? We had football in this Country long before you guys had grid iron. What you guys call 'football' in its modern form is the youngest of these shared ball sports. Football is called football all over Europe and South America. The Aussies have 'footie' for their game of course, but football is always football every where else. While we are at it, as far as I am concerned, we have linesmen not assistant refeeres. The people run teams are managers, not coaches (head or otherwise. People who go down at the drop of a hat are diving not simulation.
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Post by riotgrrl on May 24, 2009 10:05:59 GMT
Is 'grid iron' the game known in the rest of the world as 'American Football'? (Which is a distinct game from football.)
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Post by randomvioce on May 24, 2009 10:21:33 GMT
Is 'grid iron' the game known in the rest of the world as 'American Football'? (Which is a distinct game from football.) Yes, that is correct. All these 'football' games come from the same origins though. What we now call American Football started of as a game like Rugby football. The forward pass,the padding, helmets, the quarters, the endless subs etc being added fairly recently. If you look at the names of the positions and rules and tatics you see some similar names, full back, half back, tight end, place kicks convertions goal line, punting away of possesion, offside etc. Rugby is a gained ground game where the object is to advance up the field over your opponents goal line. That was American football's object too, but now you can simply run up the park and catch the ball when you get there. That not gained groud!!!!! That is a bit like the old 'up and under' of the rugby league.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 24, 2009 14:14:53 GMT
But I've never heard of a footballersuffering brain damage in this way, Anna. Have there been any incidents? The football is relatively soft even when fully inflated. We played lacrosse at my school. For those who don't know the game, a hard ball is passed from one player to another through the air, at head height. I was meant to be play in defence, but if the ball came anywhere near my head I used to duck instead of sportingly trying to catch it in my lacrosse stick. I'd only have dropped the beastly thing anyway. Here's a news report on this! Hitting the socceer ball with your head is called a "header" by the English. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/176392.stm QUOTE: Monday, 21 September, 1998, 12:59 GMT 13:59 UK Headers 'lead to brain damage' A back player can make more than 2,000 headers a season Nearly half of professional footballers suffer brain damage as a result of heading the ball, new research has found. The study, published in the scientific journal of the American Academy of Neurology, has found that soccer players suffer the same number of concussions as American footballers. The study was done on Dutch players Fifty-three professional Dutch footballers were monitored and the 45% of them were found to have some form of brain injury. "We compared the professional soccer players with swimmers and athletes," said Dr Eric Matser, one of the research authors. "Those soccer players showed memory and visual perception impairments, and these impairments were caused by the number of concussions sustained and the number of headers." The average player made 800 headers in a season, although some of the back players were making more than 2,000. Dr Matser said professional footballers should have annual neurological check-ups to protect them from getting chronic traumatic brain injury. Football authorities Dr Nick Tindall, the medical officer from the Football Association's School of Excellence, said he was still not convinced that a "definite causal link had been established between heading the football and brain damage." Dr Nick Tindall: More research needed "I think it needs more work before we should stop players heading the ball in the game," he said. The association is looking at proposals to carry out its own study on young players to determine the health impact of many aspects of the game. The former Glasgow Rangers and England centre-back Terry Butcher said it was important that young players learnt to head the ball properly on the forehead and not on the top of the head. He also supported the introduction of a monitoring programme for professionals. "It does make you a little bit worried when you hear the evidence," he said. "I think there is a lot more medicine coming into football, a lot more awareness of the body, and if it's like boxers where you have tests to see how you are doing then I'm probably all for that." The study could have implications for the former Celtic player Billy McPhail who believes he has developed the first stages of senile dementia as a result of heading the old fashioned, heavy, leather footballs. He lost his legal case for disablement benefit earlier this year, but his solicitor Tom Murray is planning an appeal. "The tribunal simply did not believe that there was any connection between heading a football and the minor head trauma caused by that, and the type of condition from which Billy now suffers, Mr Murray said. "I would hope to be able to use this new evidence in addition to the evidence already submitted."
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