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Post by Big Lin on Sept 26, 2012 20:57:07 GMT
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Post by Hunny on Sept 28, 2012 20:46:53 GMT
It's appalling that they even think that way. I think this comment pretty much said it: "Once again, we teach our kids that violence is the answer. Another generation that will learn to beat their spouse, kids or neighbor to fix a problem."
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Post by chips on Sept 29, 2012 0:42:09 GMT
Sorry, I dont think that's the case.
There's nothing wrong in teaching kids that there are boundaries and consequences if they are broken.
The parents are at fault if they don't follow through on the consequences and only store up more trouble for the future.
Parents are the ultimate authority in the child's life until majority and for the child's own safety, they must stamp that authority indelibly on the child early as possible so that they know, 'NO means No' No explanation is required to be given at an early age.
This doesn't mean you have to resort to a severe beating but a tap on the bottom never hurt any toddler (except their pride) and the earlier you exert your authority this way, the less times you'll have to use it. By the time they are 6 -7, you should never have to do it again.
Never allow a young child terms to negotiate your rules, you have made them for a reason.
Early in my married life living in a new home, my then three young daughters were allowed to play on the nature strip in front of the house. Our rules were simple, 'Do not cross or go near the road and on no account go near the creek'
I came home very early one day to find the three of them crossing the road while coming back from he creek.
My two eldest daughters were looking very sheepish while the colour drained from the youngest face
"Are you going to smack me she questioned"
They were punished some two hours later after letting them build up the punishment in their mind.
Why were they punished?
1. They had broken my trust in them
2 They had placed themselves in danger by crossing the road
3 They had placed themselves in danger of drowning in the creek.
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Post by toby on Sept 29, 2012 13:55:25 GMT
Toby comments.:- Common sense again from Chips ! well done that man !
If you look at the so-called ,'animal world', a Mother Wolf will give recalcitrant cubs a nip if they misbehave, the cubs soon learn to do as Mother commands and this is normal. What is not normal is the idea that you never need to chastise a child and what is massively abnormal is the idea that some folk think that they can exert their will over other people to influence the way they bring up their children. No child ever suffered harm from a smack on the bottom or legs ! No child ever respected an adult who let them get away with misbehaving !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2012 15:09:13 GMT
There may be something in that; I know parents who train their toddlers the same way as their dogs, with instant reward and punishment. The theory is that the time they get to four (six is too old) they obey a "no" without really understanding why. But my mother. while spoiling me rotten in many respects, spanked me for little things and I hated her for it. She laid into my brother with a walking stick and he in turn was violent to me. When I became old enough to punish her without fear of retaliation, I did.
Having said that, there may be a case for some corporal punishment in schools, as a "last resort" when all else fails. A relation who is a retired headteacher said that if a school has to cane a child more than two or three times a year it has got its discipline badly wrong.
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Post by sadie1263 on Sept 30, 2012 13:29:34 GMT
I love how that headline insinuates all Texas schools do this......the ones around here haven't for years.
My kids got a little pop on the rear end occasionally.........never anything that couldn't have been done to a bunny........usually more to get their attention.......
I do however think there should be a way to handle things without paddling.....the problem is that so many kids are getting no discipline and then being dumped on schools and society and the parents want someone else to deal with them.....what is a school to do with someone that is a constant problem?
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