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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jul 6, 2012 10:45:42 GMT
The satanic couple that put this sign up is calling the theft a hate crime. Isn't hate a virtue in satanism?usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/03/12544874-satanist-couple-theft-of-vote-satan-sign-is-hate-crime?lite QUOTE: Satanist couple: Theft of 'VOTE SATAN' sign is hate crimeA Colorado couple says they are the victims of a hate crime because someone stole a “VOTE SATAN” sign from their front porch, but police say the incident sounds more like simple theft. Luigi and Angie Bellaviste describe themselves as Satanists who belong to the Church of Satan, an organization “dedicated to the acceptance of man’s true nature – that of a carnal beast.” They believe whoever cut down the fabric sign from the porch of their home in Mountain View, a suburb of Denver, was targeting them because of their religious beliefs. “I feel like we’re being treated unfairly because it’s not a so-called mainstream religion,” Luigi Bellaviste told CBS4 in Denver. “I know of people that have the Virgin Mary in their yard and tons of Jesus, Love Jesus, I Love Jesus. What’s the difference?” added Angie Bellaviste. The couple reported the red, white and blue sign stolen on Saturday. Police contacted neighbors but nobody saw anything. Other items on the couple’s property, including a black Christmas tree, were left untouched. “Had that been the Star of David or a verse from the Quran or something like that that got damaged by somebody against those beliefs, that certainly wold have been considered a hate crime,” Luigi Bellaviste told CBS4. But Mountain View Police Cmdr. Mark Nicastle said there was nothing to indicate the couple was targeted for their religious beliefs. “There was no other indication of threats or evidence left behind that somebody was after him because of his worship or anything like that,” Nicastle told msnbc.com on Tuesday. He said police were treating the crime as simple theft, with the value of the sign estimated at $20. Police have no suspects. UNQUOTE
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Post by Hunny on Jul 6, 2012 12:37:31 GMT
Good question. Well, I've met a few of these people along the way. They told me they don't actually believe in Satan or evil power or anything. They explained what they do believe in this way: Satanists don't believe in Satan or God (well, the ones I've met don't). They just see themselves as anti-Christianity. They're against it for moral reasons (there are some, look at Christianity's long bloody oppressive history) That the symbolism of Satanism expresses hatred towards it appeals to their feelings, and that it disturbs those who believe gives them a feeling of power to affect you with their non-belief, but that's all it is. And since God - in their mind- doesn't exist, so neither does Satan, they're not casting any "evil" at anyone. You're kind of doing it to yourselves. They're using your own religion's symbolism to offend you a little, to get their point across. __________________ Now. If you look at the Earth from space, you will find there is no naturally occurring "up". Northerners just arbitrarily assigned "north" as "up", while those in the southern hemisphere see that south is actually up. The point is we all feel certain we know what "up" absolutely is, but we do not, for it it's all relative to where you observe from. Thus you may feel certain that a Satanist MUST BE bad (or 'evil'), BUT: in a "good versus bad" situation (in ANY "us versus them" situation) both sides believe they are the good ones. So you may think "Satan worshiper" equals 'bad', but they aren't worshiping Satan, and see that YOU are the bad ones (for torturing and killing and invading and oppressing for a couple thousand years. Even just the million plus women you burned over some centuries represents obscene evil.) It's all relative to where you observe from as to which (who) you will dutifully imagine is the bad one. And this is in part what their point is. The whole imaginary Christian drama of "good versus evil" is kind of awful. It's not about peace. It's not about non-judgmentality. It's hypocritical to those claimed things of the religion. So you may think a Satanist is a low life when you see one, but you're actually seeing someone who is offended by you and showing it.
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Post by Big Lin on Jul 6, 2012 21:03:21 GMT
Well, people can be offended by other people's views but that's a long way from deliberately dissing them,
Ive read quite a bit of Satanist literature and it seems to me that they do tend to have a sort of weird consistency in their point of view.
They tend to be racist though not always; they certainly have a higher proportion of paedophiles than in the normal population; and they also tend to be cruel to animals and to have a lesser degree of empathy than normal people do for the suffering of others.
How they feel they have some kind of superior moral position is beyond me.
Kindness, tolerance, compasssion, that sort of thing, is what I believe in.
Satanists are overwhelming poseurs but the genuine ones are off their rockers!
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