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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 31, 2009 19:50:10 GMT
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 31, 2009 20:50:02 GMT
those are all cool. anyway, here is where the term came from. the working outside and getting a red and leathery neck is the most apropos.
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Post by beth on Apr 1, 2009 2:50:28 GMT
the graphics are neat, Anna. better hope no one with a seizure disorder logs on, though. I agree with Jim - his definition is on the money. Whether or not it's an insult depends on the intention of the person using the term.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 1, 2009 10:44:42 GMT
for some reason, the article didn't get up there.
The popular etymology says that the term derives from such individuals having a red neck caused by working outdoors in the sunlight over the course of their lifetime. The effect of decades of direct sunlight on the exposed skin of the back of the neck not only reddens fair skin, but renders it leathery and tough, and typically very wrinkled by late middle age. Another popular theory stems from the use of red bandanas tied around the neck to signify union affiliation during the violent clashes between United Mine Workers and owners between 1910 and 1920.
Some historians claim that the term redneck originated in 17th century Virginia, when indentured servants were sunburnt while tending plantation crops.
An alternative origin of the term comes from Scotland. In Scotland, the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant (aka Covenanters)signed documents stating that Scotland desired a Presbyterian Church Government, and rejected the Church of England as their official church.
Many of the Covenanters Signed these documents using their own blood, and many in the movement began wearing red pieces of cloth around their neck to signify their position to the public. They were referred to as Rednecks. Many of the early inhabitants of the US South were of Scottish Descent, and according to this theory, this term was applied to many of the southern Scottish immigrants early on, eventually changing into the term we know today.
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Post by Ben Lomond on Apr 1, 2009 14:12:37 GMT
The term "redneck" is defined in various dictionaries as follows:
" a)Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States. b) A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude."
And I must admit that I had the latter of the two definitions in mind when I introduced the term in a recent discussion.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 1, 2009 15:10:32 GMT
The term "redneck" is defined in various dictionaries as follows: " a)Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States. b) A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude." And I must admit that I had the latter of the two definitions in mind when I introduced the term in a recent discussion. you just need to learn to use accurate terms instead of those which are diametrically opposed to reality, which currently is your wont to do
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Post by Liberator on Apr 2, 2009 0:09:24 GMT
'Redneck' is the American version of 'BNP supporter', or the Afrikaans 'Boer' ('Farmer', 'Householder') transferred to English as 'Boor' and often confused with 'Bore'.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 2, 2009 2:18:47 GMT
It does seem that the term "Redneck" is associated with a way of thinking. I remember someone telling me they saw the film "Easy Rider" in a Southern state "Redneck" area and after the film ended with the main characters being gunned down vigilante style the "Rednecks" stood up and applauded.
The word "Hick" seems to be either "unpolitical" or maybe they're the country folk north of the Mason Dixon line.
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Post by chefmate on Apr 2, 2009 6:24:22 GMT
The term "redneck" is defined in various dictionaries as follows: " a)Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States. b) A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude." And I must admit that I had the latter of the two definitions in mind when I introduced the term in a recent discussion. you just need to learn to use accurate terms instead of those which are diametrically opposed to reality, which currently is your wont to do Let's call a spade a spade and Jumbo fits definition 2 to a tee which is what I have been trying to say since the get go on this discussion. Ben, I agree with you and you are on target.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 29, 2009 0:16:59 GMT
Not very smart Little or no education Crude Has Tattoos Usually owns a motorcycle Likely to reside in a house trailer rather than a real house or apartment Enjoys Pit Bull dogfights to the death and likes to bet on the outcome Drinks only beer (thinks wine is for sissies and hasn't ever tried Scotch or Cognac) Swears and cusses a lot. Uses the F word constantly and loves to make jokes about 'your momma.' Is a loyal Democrat politically and always votes with the Democrats.
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Post by Liberator on May 29, 2009 0:54:10 GMT
I agree with Chefmate. Political parties don't mean much in the USA (they don't mean much in the UK or Ireland either). Remember that the infamous racist George Wallace was a Democrat and since Republicans care about nothing except money, race doesn't bother them directly, only as far as more of the poor they see as their slaves are black, but they're happy to accept the occasional non-white slave-master because the money is the same.
A Hick is a much nicer country person free from Redneck prejudices. The Waltons were Hicks, never Rednecks. One big difference is that Hicks have a sense of humility aware that there are things they don't know, so are capable of learning, in fact very good at it. Rednecks never doubt that they know it all and any alternative view exists only to laugh at or as a personal offence to annoy them. They generally invert this to assume everybody else has the same attitude, so their incredulity that anybody could continue to think differently from them and think for themself instead of falling back to received dogma comes out as accusations of prejudice against the Redneck for holding different ideas.
Hicks know they are out of the mainstream and they like it that way, but they want to know what is happening even if they don't want to be involved. Rednecks believe they are a pure mainstream that everybody else is out of touch with. They don't want to know because it's all lies spread by a vast range of conspirators whose ultimate Raison d'être is to suppress them.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on May 29, 2009 6:12:59 GMT
I think there's a certain charm about redneck culture. Yeah i admit i love Vince McMahon's WWE wrestling circus and all those interviews with the big redneck machos! A multi-lingual, cosmopolitian, overly educated person like me wouldn't fit in of course-but for a fantasy vision of a crazy weekend??? I gotta be careful with such thoughts or i might end up being reincarnated in a redneck trailer park!
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Post by clemiethedog on Jun 1, 2009 13:07:47 GMT
Not very smart Little or no education Crude Has Tattoos Usually owns a motorcycle Likely to reside in a house trailer rather than a real house or apartment Enjoys Pit Bull dogfights to the death and likes to bet on the outcome Drinks only beer (thinks wine is for sissies and hasn't ever tried Scotch or Cognac) Swears and cusses a lot. Uses the F word constantly and loves to make jokes about 'your momma.' Is a loyal Democrat politically and always votes with the Democrats. Worships George W. Bush.
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Post by beth on Jun 3, 2009 1:17:24 GMT
A friend who thinks this is very funny sent it to me in email. These guys are probably not Democrats.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 3, 2009 1:56:04 GMT
A friend who thinks this is very funny sent it to me in email. These guys are probably not Democrats. It's very politically incorrect too, but if that pic is put up on a billboard in an enlarged form around a neighborhood i'm sure the burglars, predators and criminals in general would avoid that area! And it sure isn't very cosmopolitan!
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Jun 4, 2009 0:07:20 GMT
C'mon Anna
You don't think those guys all voted for Obama?
;-)
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jun 4, 2009 1:03:45 GMT
C'mon Anna You don't think those guys all voted for Obama? ;-) Well not every Black voted for Obama either!
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Post by Big Lin on Jun 4, 2009 20:26:08 GMT
A LOT of evangelical Christians voted for Obama too!
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Post by beth on Jun 5, 2009 2:40:14 GMT
Ditto a lot of moderate Republicans and independents.
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