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Post by trubble on Mar 12, 2012 21:51:53 GMT
Norway is new to this. They have a low crime rate compared to other countries. I think their legislation reflects this. They simply haven't had to deal with the sort of crimes that America and Britian have had to.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 13, 2012 11:30:33 GMT
Norway is new to this. They have a low crime rate compared to other countries. I think their legislation reflects this. They simply haven't had to deal with the sort of crimes that America and Britian have had to. that's one of the problems. i don't know norway's constitution, but i would assume that they do not have a prohibition on ex post facto laws. in that case, their legislature could enact a law now specifically for this fool to ensure that he never walks the streets again. obviously, it would be better to enact the death penalty if only for him, but, that wouldn't be likely in norway
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 13, 2012 11:31:41 GMT
Ok, this seems to say that in principle someone could be locked away for the whole of their life: from: themoderatevoice.com/117427/meme-correction-norwegians-can-be-incarcerated-for-more-than-21-years-for-murder/Preventive detention is … for an unspecified period… When the time limit [21 years maximum] expires, the offender [is] reassessed. If the court concludes that the recurrence risk is still present, the time frame [can] be extended by up to five years. There is no upper limit to how many times the court may extend the time frame. In principle, therefore, a person sentenced [to] custody [is] in prison for life. that will pretty much keep him locked up forever.
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Post by trubble on Mar 13, 2012 11:56:35 GMT
Well, there's no ''will'' about it! It provides the option but assessment is continual which means if he behaves well for a decade he could be out.
That's what makes me think that it might be better to have him diagnosed with a mental illness and keep him away from society on that basis.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 13, 2012 12:38:12 GMT
Well, there's no ''will'' about it! It provides the option but assessment is continual which means if he behaves well for a decade he could be out. That's what makes me think that it might be better to have him diagnosed with a mental illness and keep him away from society on that basis. that's partially true, but, the process should include a couple of shrinks putting their ideas to the judge, who will decide. given what the crime was, it would not take much to justify keeping him locked up. it is not likely that he would be able to change his personality enough to fool them all
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Post by toby on Mar 17, 2012 19:30:51 GMT
Iam jumbo posted.:-NO intelligent person would try to claim that the boy is insane. he knew fully well what he was doing
Toby comments.;- I agree, there are creepy fools who try to say Breivik is insane but these fools will not or can not face up to the stark hard cold fact that the silent majority does not want the forced Mass immigration. You will note that there was no outcry about Breivik being kept in solitary confinement but I bet if he was tinted it would be different !
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Post by toby on Mar 17, 2012 19:34:27 GMT
Iamjumbo posted.:-no, america didn't. the immigrants who came here, until the past twenty years anyway, came and became americans. they assimilated into american culture. while they did keep some of their traditions, any that were at odds with the american way were jettisoned. that is NOT how europe has done. europe has allowed the aliens to come in and continue living as they did in the country that they left. THAT is what is inexcusable
Toby comments.:- Bang on the nail. I find it gross that there are dummies who blindly witter on about Multiculturalism. In the USA there is Monoculturalism and that's the best way, all becoming Americans !
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Post by toby on Mar 17, 2012 19:41:17 GMT
Toby comments.:- The guy who Murdered Pim Fortuyn is due to be released soon.
He is a hard left dyed-in-the-wool hater and he has publicly stated that he has no regrets about killing Fortuyn, who at the time was likely to be elected Prime Minister. The gun that the Fortuyn Killer used was tested and found to have been used some time previously, they think by the same Murderer to kill someone else, but they cannot prove it. The Murderer was part of a hard left animal rights group who thought they were justified in using Murder as a way to get their own way. I am surprised the Dutch are going to let him out for it seems to me he is as insane as Breivik may be.
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