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Post by Big Lin on Mar 31, 2009 16:53:17 GMT
I'll bite the bullet and play:
8...P-h6xKt-g5
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 31, 2009 20:00:12 GMT
I'll bite the bullet and play: 8...P-h6xKt-g5 That's move 11...P-h6XKt-g5! Somehow we both got the move nr. wrong the last few posts! I went back and modified the move nr in several posts. Of course i'll play 12.Ph4XPg5!
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 3, 2009 19:38:16 GMT
12...Kt-d5
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 4, 2009 4:05:08 GMT
A very optimistic move Lin! I'll play 13. Qe2-h5 and if you play 13...Pf7-f6 or f5 14. Pg5-g6 follows.
The only time in my life where i got beat in chess by other women was when i played with the Turm Krefeld woman's team.. My Dad taught me chess at a young age and so i got quite a head start. I can be pretty deadly for the first 20 moves and won a lot of quick games in tournaments.. If my opponent had a playable position at move 30 i'd tired out often and lose. I even beat a couple players with a master rating, who were careless in the opening.
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Post by mikemarshall on Apr 4, 2009 15:25:45 GMT
I wouldn't underestimate Lin, Anna. She's better at chess than me and she's drawn with a couple of grandmasters and beaten one.
She's been manically busy lately and hasn't really been concentrating.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 5, 2009 4:16:23 GMT
I wouldn't underestimate Lin, Anna. She's better at chess than me and she's drawn with a couple of grandmasters and beaten one. She's been manically busy lately and hasn't really been concentrating. Oh i'm sure Lin is very busy with offline stuff and i'm amazed at the time she finds for her forum and other forums as well.. If we get into a late middle game i'm often easy prey because i frequently keep trying to pursue tactical and attacking ideas that go nowhere, but into a bad endgame.
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 5, 2009 6:25:40 GMT
The only Chess games that I have ever lost to women were those that I played online. So needless to say I am suspicious because, with few exceptions, women are not normally good chess players.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 5, 2009 12:46:13 GMT
Have you heard of the Polgar sisters, Lonewolf? Have you seen Judith's ELO ranking?
Like so many old-fashioned attitudes, that's out of date.
For what it's worth I've drawn with John Nunn and Ray Keene and I also beat Ray Keene once. All three games were simultaneous displays and I was Black.
At the peak of his career John Nunn was ranked number 3 in the world.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 5, 2009 12:47:56 GMT
Anna, I'm at my best in the endgame. I was really angry with myself when I had an intricate position against Ray Keene and KNEW that I ought to win but could NOT see how to do it.
When he offered me a draw I had to accept.
If the roles had been reversed I'm sure he would have seen the win I couldn't find.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 5, 2009 14:37:57 GMT
Anna, I'm at my best in the endgame. I was really angry with myself when I had an intricate position against Ray Keene and KNEW that I ought to win but could NOT see how to do it. When he offered me a draw I had to accept. If the roles had been reversed I'm sure he would have seen the win I couldn't find. Chess is very nerve racking too. The Polgar sisters retired from chess early as do most female chess masters. I met Victor Korchnoi's ex-wife in Germany and she told me a lot about the stress that chess masters go through and how that affects them. My father and others instilled their enthusiam for the game in me when i was young and i was given pictures of complicated chess positions where black or white would play some complicated complication to win and i would take them out and study them when i had time and solving them was fun, but learning positional strategy bored me. The chess team here which i quit a few years ago begged me to stay on and offer to pay expenses. I really think though that you risk your mental health if you take the game too seriously. Tennis is much more healthy and balanced! Speaking of Ray Keene i have his book "Winning Chess Moves", www.amazon.com/Times-Winning-Moves-Everyman-Chess/dp/1857443381#somewhere which i carried around for a while. He also published a book called an "Opening Repitoire for the Attacking Player" which influenced me a lot so congrats on beating him..
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 5, 2009 20:28:15 GMT
Anna, as I'm going to be very busy I hope you won't mind if I don't reply all that quickly.
Sorry.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 6, 2009 5:16:45 GMT
No hurry Lin! As far as strong female players go i feel Judith Polgar is a very good and inspirational teacher.. Her agressive risky looking tactics are really ingenious! A grandmaster sums it up! "Judit's attacks are the ultimate in terms of viciousness ... surviving her attack is almost impossible. Her aggressive style is so intimidating that the most important thing is to remain calm ... the worst part is that she exploits every tiny mistake you make." - GM Schwartzman Judith Polgar vs GM Rainer Knaak 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Ne7 7.Qg4 Qc7 8.Bd3 cxd4 9.Ne2 Qxe5 10.Bf4 Qf6 11.Bg5 Qe5 12.cxd4 h5 13.Qh4 Qc7 14.Bf4 Qa5+ 15.Bd2 Qd8 16.g4 e5 17.dxe5 Bxg4 18.Rg1 Qd7 19.f3 Be6 20.Nd4 Nbc6 21.Nxc6 Nxc6 22.Rxg7 Qc7 23.f4 Nxe5 24.fxe5 Qxe5+ 25.Kf2 Qxg7 26.Rg1 Qb2 27.Bb4 f6 28.Re1 O-O-O 29.Rxe6 Kb8 30.Qxf6 Qa2 31.Qd4 Rc8 32.Bd2 Ka8 33.Be3 Rxc2+ 34.Bxc2 Qxc2+ 35.Ke1 Qb1+ 36.Kd2 Qa2+ 37.Kd1 Qb1+ 38.Ke2 Qc2+ 39.Bd2 Rf8 40.Qxd5 1-0
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 6, 2009 9:54:13 GMT
Like so many old-fashioned attitudes, that's out of date. It has absolutely nothing to do with attitude and everything to do with observation.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 7, 2009 0:15:04 GMT
Well, as it happens, I've got a friend who is an International Master and he HATES playing women opponents because he almost always loses!
As for observation, I think you're forgetting a lot of practical points.
To begin with, to become a professional chess player costs a lot of money and most families don't have the resources to fund a career. My friend is lucky in that his parents DID have the money to support his playing career (though even so he only plays it as a sideline but in spite of that his ELO grade is 1950. He and I often play each other and I win 1 out of every 5 games I play with him, draw another one and lose the others. 1 1/2 points against someone who's just below grandmaster level ain't bad, pal!
It's also the fact that cultural factors come into it. Nona Gaprindashvili was able to beat some of the top male players way back and since her day many other women grandmasters have outshone her pioneering example.
At the height of her powers Judith Polgar was ranked right up there with most of the top men.
You also have to consider that most women don't want to spend hours stuck over a chessboard.
I'd say if you joined a decent chess club, Lonewolf, you'd find PLENTY of women who could beat you, especially if you told them beforehand how useless they were at the game.
I remember at uni when we had a chess tournament for the students and I was one the few girls who entered. There was an arrogant Belgian bloke who was a real male chauvinist pig and was also the favourite to win the tournament. He played half a dozen friendlies with me and told me contemptuously that I would NEVER be able to beat HIM.
In the first round I was drawn against the third favourite and I had Black. I won. In the second round I was up against one of the less fancied players and thrashed him with White. In the third round I was up against the fourth favourite and beat him with Black. In the fourth round I won a difficult game against the fifth favourite with White.
Then I was through to the semi-finals and, yes, you've guessed it, I was drawn against the Belgian and I had Black. I chose a risky opening system and that clearly surprised him. Before long it was obvious even to him that he was going to lose the game. I took great pleasure in thrashing the favourite and with Black too.
Unfortunately the final against the second favourite was a bit of an anti-climax. We ended up with a dead drawn position and had to share the cup and the prize money.
Believe me, Lonewolf, there are THOUSANDS of women who could beat you.
Since I'm going to be manically busy organising the move to Yorkshire for the next few weeks, why don't you challenge Anna to a game in the meantime?
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 7, 2009 5:51:21 GMT
Well, as it happens, I've got a friend who is an International Master and he HATES playing women opponents because he almost always loses! LMAO! As for observation, I think you're forgetting a lot of practical points. Yeah, but unlike you I am not forgetting the fact that there is only one woman (Polgar) listed among the top 100 Chess players. To begin with, to become a professional chess player costs a lot of money and most families don't have the resources to fund a career. Isn’t that just like a woman to always make excuses! I'd say if you joined a decent chess club, Lonewolf, you'd find PLENTY of women It is extremely rare to find women in Chess Clubs. Believe me, Lonewolf, there are THOUSANDS of women who could beat you. Yeah, with the help of BIG BLUE! Since I'm going to be manically busy organising the move to Yorkshire for the next few weeks, why don't you challenge Anna to a game in the meantime? Anytime Anna Banana wants to sit down and play a game of Chess with me in person I will be happy to accept.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 7, 2009 17:21:20 GMT
Anytime Anna Banana wants to sit down and play a game of Chess with me in person I will be happy to accept. Okey Dookey Tough Guy! If the "lady's first" priviledge is still in i'll play 1.e2-e4
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 8, 2009 7:03:45 GMT
I said "in person", Anna Banana!
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Apr 8, 2009 17:06:59 GMT
I said "in person", Anna Banana! Wolfy! I'm a resident of Germany! No travel plans at the moment!
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 8, 2009 18:05:17 GMT
I'm a resident of Germany! Oh goody; then we can play with chocolate Chess pieces! In that way I will not only have the pleasure of thoroughly trouncing you at chess but the added satisfaction of taking all your candy away from you as well.
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Post by Big Lin on Apr 8, 2009 20:28:02 GMT
Lonewolf, my husband could put all this much better than me. He'd deconstruct your argument and show you how illogical it is.
It's my birthday so I'm feeling nice but I'll do my best.
You seem to think that women are inferior to men.
You seem to think that women can't play chess.
You seem to think that no woman could beat you.
You seem to think that if they did they'd have to be a man.
I don't know what your idea of proof is, but what proof do WE have that YOU are a man and not a woman pretending to be one?
I'd say you were running scared because so far all we know is that you CLAIM you can play chess.
Let's see the colour of your money!
(I used to play chess for money at college BTW - as well as stud poker, bridge and brag!)
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