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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 11, 2009 7:20:00 GMT
Life without Parole in Europe does not exist! It appears that no inmate of a European prison has been in prison longer than the convicted ETA member Jose Mari Sagarudi, who has been in prison for 29 years! Political criminals do serve longer sentences in Europe! Serial killers get out earlier in Europe as long as they don't have a political agenda that those in power don't like. European governments will help non-political murderers with name changes and protect the anonyminity of the killer when they turn the killer loose on society. www.answers.com/topic/life-sentence QUOTE: The ETA member Jose Mari Sagarudi is currently (July 2007) the person who (according to a basque prisoners' families association) has spent most years in prison in Europe (he has been in prison since 1980 and will be released in 2010).
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 22:33:58 GMT
What are you talking about?
To give just one immediate example, Ian Brady has been in prison since 1966.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 12, 2009 20:08:21 GMT
What are you talking about? To give just one immediate example, Ian Brady has been in prison since 1966. britain isn't much better, but it is definitely better than germany and france
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 12, 2009 23:38:46 GMT
What are you talking about? To give just one immediate example, Ian Brady has been in prison since 1966. His 33 years of prison time is over! I'm sure there is some security in this mental hospital, but a mental hospital is not really a prison! The German mental hospitals are notorious for their lax security and people have been murdered when the "homicidal patients" are allowed to walk through the neighborhood unescorted! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Brady QUOTE: He was sentenced to life imprisonment in May 1966; since 1999 he has been in a mental hospital.
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Post by Big Lin on Mar 12, 2009 23:46:55 GMT
If he'd been hung in the first place like he should have been we wouldn't be stuck with the cost of keeping him alive!
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 13, 2009 13:20:35 GMT
A secure mental hospital is effectively a prison. Ian Brady hasn't been moved from a cell to a nice ward with open access to the grounds ffs. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article572669.eceYour opening rant "life without parole does not exist" is just not true.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 13, 2009 15:00:32 GMT
If he'd been hung in the first place like he should have been we wouldn't be stuck with the cost of keeping him alive! so true. there was NEVER a legitimate reason for he and myra both to not hit the end of a rope
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 13, 2009 15:03:23 GMT
when you have the imbeciles in brussels making such abjectly moronic comments as life without parole is inhumane, you will never have justice there. such incompetent excuses for jurists are the precise cause of the criminal problems in europe. these lunatics openly stated disdain for human rights is despicable
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 13, 2009 15:31:50 GMT
A secure mental hospital is effectively a prison. Ian Brady hasn't been moved from a cell to a nice ward with open access to the grounds ffs. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article572669.eceYour opening rant "life without parole does not exist" is just not true. A mental hospital incarceration is much more than expensive than prison! It is also a weaker deterrent to crime than prison! No riotgrrl i disagree! LWOP should be served in prison, if not it's a farce!
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 13, 2009 18:49:20 GMT
A secure mental hospital is effectively a prison. Ian Brady hasn't been moved from a cell to a nice ward with open access to the grounds ffs. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article572669.eceYour opening rant "life without parole does not exist" is just not true. A mental hospital incarceration is much more than expensive than prison! It is also a weaker deterrent to crime than prison! No riotgrrl i disagree! LWOP should be served in prison, if not it's a farce! Don't be ridiculous. If somebody is diagnosed as insane when in prison they have to be removed to the correct facilities, not least for the safety of the other prisoners and prison officers. Presumably if a prisoner developed cancer you wouldn't allow them to be moved to a hospital facility either?
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 13, 2009 20:21:35 GMT
A mental hospital incarceration is much more than expensive than prison! It is also a weaker deterrent to crime than prison! No riotgrrl i disagree! LWOP should be served in prison, if not it's a farce! Don't be ridiculous. If somebody is diagnosed as insane when in prison they have to be removed to the correct facilities, not least for the safety of the other prisoners and prison officers. Presumably if a prisoner developed cancer you wouldn't allow them to be moved to a hospital facility either? The Yorkshire ripper's fake story about how a talking gravestone commanded him to murder got him out of prison and into a more comfortable mental hospital! The "son of Sam" likewise had a well rehearsed insanity act to use in case he got arrested! His phony claim that howling dogs commanded him to murder duped some psychologists, but one psychologist refused to buy it and the killer finally admitted it was a fake story! These murderers are evil and spread cruel stereotypes about the legitimately mentally ill with their bogus insanity acts!
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 20, 2009 5:40:04 GMT
there was NEVER a legitimate reason for he and myra both to not hit the end of a rope Of course there is! Such practice (Hanging) is barbaric and should never be used on human beings.
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Post by alanseago on Apr 20, 2009 12:16:59 GMT
I remember the story of a man who pinned his son down on a rock and prepared to stab him to death because a voice in his head told him to. Had he gone ahead would he be remembered as a child murderer or the father of humanity?
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 20, 2009 12:22:26 GMT
there was NEVER a legitimate reason for he and myra both to not hit the end of a rope Of course there is! Such practice (Hanging) is barbaric and should never be used on human beings. don't be daft. your lunatical notion that murder is not barbaric, and it is perfectly okay to murder is stupid on its face. your disdain for human rights is appalling.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2009 13:07:53 GMT
I remember the story of a man who pinned his son down on a rock and prepared to stab him to death because a voice in his head told him to. Had he gone ahead would he be remembered as a child murderer or the father of humanity? Exactly, Alan
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 20, 2009 16:43:55 GMT
don't be daft. your lunatical notion that murder is not barbaric, and it is perfectly okay to murder is stupid on its face. your disdain for human rights is appalling. Dumbo, seriously, you need to take a course in reading comprehension; you really do.
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Post by june on Apr 20, 2009 19:55:25 GMT
I always found something immensely satisfying in knowing Myra Hindley was alive and not executed.
She was desperate to be released for a very long time and the thought of her suffering, wanting to be free, feeling she should be released and having others agree with her - while all the time having parole refused and that being really painful and tormenting for her - well that thought I am not ashamed to say filled me with a deep sense of satifaction at a punishment being well and truly meted out.*
A death sentence for Myra would have been a release for her - no one else.
*i realise that deriving pleasure from another's misery does not make me a very nice person, in this case I am happy to suffer that.
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Post by iamjumbo on Apr 20, 2009 20:30:14 GMT
I always found something immensely satisfying in knowing Myra Hindley was alive and not executed. She was desperate to be released for a very long time and the thought of her suffering, wanting to be free, feeling she should be released and having others agree with her - while all the time having parole refused and that being really painful and tormenting for her - well that thought I am not ashamed to say filled me with a deep sense of satifaction at a punishment being well and truly meted out.* A death sentence for Myra would have been a release for her - no one else. *i realise that deriving pleasure from another's misery does not make me a very nice person, in this case I am happy to suffer that. for sure, that was more painful for her than hanging would have been. the point is however, she wasn't worth a nickel out of your pocket to feed until she died. you are NOT deriving pleasure from the misery of another who did not make the wilful, conscious choice to embrace that misery
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