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Post by Mo-DAWG on Aug 17, 2010 23:17:46 GMT
I personally oppose the concept of capital punishment but I do see why others don't.. especially in a case like this one and can I respect their stance.
my thoughts are with the victims and their families, as well as with Peter Cantu's family who too got victimized by his actions ...
my thoughts are also with Peter Cantu since I still believe that NONE should die by the hands of another .. Peter screwed his own and many other lives up way back then and I do not think his death will or can make up for any of this
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Aug 18, 2010 5:48:18 GMT
let me add one thing, one person who deserves to get mentioned here: I admire Joe Cantu's strenght and decency .. Joe Cantu is Peter Cantu's brother and the person who called police (even though anonymously).. but he did.. the reason why I admire him is the strenght and decency he showed .. he gave his brother Peter up which surely hasn't been easy .. just imagine you had to give your brother up.. must be a hard thimg to do .. but doing so he not only helped solve this case but surely rescued the life of more potential future victims ..
hats off to you Joe Cantu !!
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 18, 2010 7:03:10 GMT
let me add one thing, one person who deserves to get mentioned here: I admire Joe Cantu's strenght and decency .. Joe Cantu is Peter Cantu's brother and the person who called police (even though anonymously).. but he did.. the reason why I admire him is the strenght and decency he showed .. he gave his brother Peter up which surely hasn't been easy .. just imagine you had to give your brother up.. must be a hard thimg to do .. but doing so he not only helped solve this case but surely rescued the life of more potential future victims .. hats off to you Joe Cantu !! Of course Joe did the right thing! I hope he disowned that predator and is of the opinion that he never had a brother, unless of course he has a brother or brothers, who was/were never involved in torture and murder!
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 18, 2010 21:07:07 GMT
This case has been at the forefront of the Pro DP movement for many years. While I'm happy to see that Cantu has finally been executed, I'm also sad that it took so long. The endless appeals and delays served no real purpose other than to drain the taxpayer's coffers and extend the suffering of the families involved.
It is true that Joe Cantu was a hero in bringing these killers to justice. I wonder how that played out with his family. Do they view him as a hero or a traitor?
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Aug 18, 2010 23:57:08 GMT
This case has been at the forefront of the Pro DP movement for many years. While I'm happy to see that Cantu has finally been executed, I'm also sad that it took so long. The endless appeals and delays served no real purpose other than to drain the taxpayer's coffers and extend the suffering of the families involved. It is true that Joe Cantu was a hero in bringing these killers to justice. I wonder how that played out with his family. Do they view him as a hero or a traitor? I don't know that BA .. during my years of DP work I had noticed 2 of these guys in the visitors room several times but never had anything to do with any of the killers in this case ..didnt know their family members either ... but yes.. interesting question to ask how the Cantu family sees Joe ...
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 25, 2010 6:43:00 GMT
According to this news article the family of the predator rightfully and understandable didn't wish to have anything to do with being at the predator's execution!www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20014100-504083.html QUOTE: No one came to witness on Cantu's behalf when he received his lethal injection.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Aug 26, 2010 4:33:15 GMT
According to this news article the family of the predator rightfully and understandable didn't wish to have anything to do with being at the predator's execution!www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20014100-504083.html QUOTE: No one came to witness on Cantu's behalf when he received his lethal injection. now THAT should anwer our question about his familiy's stance ... poor people I hope they can find peace too
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Post by pumpkinette on Aug 26, 2010 14:42:26 GMT
This case has been at the forefront of the Pro DP movement for many years. While I'm happy to see that Cantu has finally been executed, I'm also sad that it took so long. The endless appeals and delays served no real purpose other than to drain the taxpayer's coffers and extend the suffering of the families involved. It is true that Joe Cantu was a hero in bringing these killers to justice. I wonder how that played out with his family. Do they view him as a hero or a traitor? This was a horrific case. I think they deserved the DP 100%.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 27, 2010 5:38:52 GMT
This case has been at the forefront of the Pro DP movement for many years. While I'm happy to see that Cantu has finally been executed, I'm also sad that it took so long. The endless appeals and delays served no real purpose other than to drain the taxpayer's coffers and extend the suffering of the families involved. It is true that Joe Cantu was a hero in bringing these killers to justice. I wonder how that played out with his family. Do they view him as a hero or a traitor? This was a horrific case. I think they deserved the DP 100%. Any family that remains loyal to such a heinous evildoer as in this particular case deserves to be snubbed at least, if not completely ostracized! This is not an ordinary case of homicide! The rightfully executed predator should be reduced to a nameless, faceless non-entity, whose only possible positive contribution to society was to hopefully serve as a deterring example to anyone capable of such evil!
Of course I applaud Joe Cantu for doing the right thing! Elizabeth Pena and Jennifer Ertman should always be remembered and loved too!
I refuse to further muck up this forum by ever printing the legal name of this thankfully past tense, evil, egoistic sadist. I appreciate and thank other forums members, if they follow suit! If I was the admin, I'd modify that evil mantra out of the thread title-no disrespect to MoDawg intended! The generic word "predator" or "Ertman/Pena killer" is more than sufficent!
As for the anti-DP activists' question: "Would you be willing to carry out an execution personally?" In this particular case YES!!
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Aug 28, 2010 0:19:15 GMT
This was a horrific case. I think they deserved the DP 100%. Any family that remains loyal to such a heinous evildoer as in this particular case deserves to be snubbed at least, if not completely ostracized! This is not an ordinary case of homicide! The rightfully executed predator should be reduced to a nameless, faceless non-entity, whose only possible positive contribution to society was to hopefully serve as a deterring example to anyone capable of such evil!
Of course I applaud Joe Cantu for doing the right thing! Elizabeth Pena and Jennifer Ertman should always be remembered and loved too!
I refuse to further muck up this forum by ever printing the legal name of this thankfully past tense, evil, egoistic sadist. I appreciate and thank other forums members, if they follow suit! If I was the admin, I'd modify that evil mantra out of the thread title-no disrespect to MoDawg intended! The generic word "predator" or "Ertman/Pena killer" is more than sufficent!
As for the anti-DP activists' question: "Would you be willing to carry out an execution personally?" In this particular case YES!! changed it to: Ertman/Pena killer execution Aug.17th,2010 just for you Anna do I get a smile or what?? haha
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Post by beez0811 on Sept 3, 2010 0:36:50 GMT
I'm glad that Cantu didn't try to pull the bullcrap stunt that Medellin did, only to delay his execution by nearly four hours. I think all of the evil "men" involved in this horrible tragedy, and after Roper v. Simmons are all dead.
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Post by sadie1263 on Sept 3, 2010 2:23:58 GMT
Wow.....read the victim's families statements from the day of the execution. They went to the executions of two of the other perpetrators......both of them apologized to the families for what they did........they said they didn't expect Cantu to do that.....and sure enough....he didn't.
What this gang did was so horrible.......the last hour of these two girl's lives was painful and filled with unfathomable cruelty.........
I don't know what the answer is to monsters......killing them doesn't stop them......there are always more......it may stop that one......but that is all.....it does not act as any type of deterrent. It doesn't bring anyone back........but then there are just some people that will never be productive members of society.....and are nothing but monsters in a human shell.......what is the point in housing and feeding them......I don't know......I go back and forth subject quite a bit......
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Sept 3, 2010 2:43:32 GMT
Wow.....read the victim's families statements from the day of the execution. They went to the executions of two of the other perpetrators......both of them apologized to the families for what they did........they said they didn't expect Cantu to do that.....and sure enough....he didn't. What this gang did was so horrible.......the last hour of these two girl's lives was painful and filled with unfathomable cruelty......... I don't know what the answer is to monsters......killing them doesn't stop them......there are always more......it may stop that one......but that is all.....it does not act as any type of deterrent. It doesn't bring anyone back........but then there are just some people that will never be productive members of society.....and are nothing but monsters in a human shell.......what is the point in housing and feeding them......I don't know......I go back and forth subject quite a bit...... No killing the murderers of such beautiful people like Jennifer and Elizabeth doesn't stop the evil, if they become the name and face that people remember, after all is said and done! Remembering the names and faces of the victims is the best way to go and try not to think of the demons that took them and don't invoke their names! Our actions define us and thus Christ was very right when he warned us of demons in human form in Matthew 13, etc.. They feed on the attention they are given! Disposal and oblivion should be their fate.
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