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Post by aubrey on Aug 31, 2010 15:49:52 GMT
Typical.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 31, 2010 22:07:33 GMT
No Aubrey, it would not have been better for me if they had a prescription. It would have been better for me if they had "Cocaine Addict" tattooed on their forehead in large bold letters. Then I would have known better than to hire them in the first place.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 1, 2010 16:16:15 GMT
Why not? They'd have got their coke and done their work.
Had any trouble with alcoholics?
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Sept 2, 2010 21:21:18 GMT
Never had any trouble with alcoholics. Most of the people we hired for professional positions were new graduates coming out of university. It was a mistake not to require drug testing as a routine part of the hiring process.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 3, 2010 19:46:22 GMT
Drug testing is just a power thing. You might not have caught the coke-heads, because coke leaves the body pretty quickly, but you would have got someone who had had a joint, or had been in a room where a joint was smoked, up to a month before. (Sorry - but they're unreliable druggies as well, aren't they?)
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Sept 3, 2010 21:10:05 GMT
I think Cameron Douglas, son of the actor Michael Douglas, has a life that's not unusual for a drug addict. Here was a young man with a rich and famous father who had everything. Naturally he blew it and is now in prison. His father is glad about that because he believes Cameron needs to be protected from himself. www.people.com/people/article/0,,20362421,00.html
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Post by aubrey on Sept 4, 2010 11:20:05 GMT
Drug addicts have famous fathers? I never knew that.
So Michael prefers that his son is inside, probably getting raped, than out and getting treatment? What a good father!
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Sept 4, 2010 13:37:13 GMT
Cameron Douglas comes from an incredibly rich family. Money was never an issue for him so he was able to freely support his drug usage until fully addicted to heroin. He didn't have to steal or deal until his father became disgusted with him and reduced his allowance. Cameron has been a worthless and irresponsible druggie for his entire adult life. His case gives us an excellent preview of what would happen if we were to legalize drugs and make them freely available just as they were for Cameron.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 4, 2010 16:25:07 GMT
Decriminalised, not legalised.
In England, people inside for dealing cannabis can come out addicted to heroin, due to drug testing (heroin leaves the body quickly, cannabis takes about a month: so if you take heroin you have much less chance of being caught).
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Sept 4, 2010 23:45:04 GMT
Kirk Douglas was a very successful lead actor in movies. He was one of Hollywood's biggest stars. When he got older, he passed the torch to his son Michael Douglas who subsequently became one of Hollywood's biggest stars.
Sadly, this passing of the torch was not to be with Michael's son Cameron. Drugs reduced Cameron to a worthless and irresponsible human being. Certainly not someone that the studios would want to hire.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 5, 2010 10:41:19 GMT
It is hard to believe that neither Kirk or Michael never partook.
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Post by beth on Sept 5, 2010 13:39:32 GMT
It is hard to believe that neither Kirk or Michael never partook. VERY hard. das, perhaps you are not thinking this through.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 5, 2010 17:47:20 GMT
Golly though, I could do with a spliff now.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Sept 6, 2010 0:43:37 GMT
There is zero evidence to suggest that Kirk Douglas or his son Michael Douglas ever got involved with drugs. To the contrary. They both had successful careers. They both showed up on time for scheduled movie shoots. They were responsible citizens who gave us wonderful movies.
What an incredible letdown it must have been for both of them to realize that Michael's son Cameron was a hopelessly addicted and totally worthless druggie. As a father, i can assure you that would have been my reaction.
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Post by mouse on Sept 6, 2010 6:34:34 GMT
Drug addicts have famous fathers? I never knew that. So Michael prefers that his son is inside, probably getting raped, than out and getting treatment? What a good father! from what i gather cameron has been given numerous chances to clean up via treatment...perhaps his father just finally had had enough...and we are not talking some kid here...cameron is a grown man and has made his choices...... on his own head be it
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Post by aubrey on Sept 6, 2010 17:01:57 GMT
BA - there is only evidence when someone fails a drug test, or gets caught with the stuff. I doubt that Hollywood stars are searched anything like as much as the average inner-city black kid.
There was an awful lot of drinking going on in Hollywood at the height of drink prohibition - PG Wodehouse wrote stories about it.
Mouse - do you think taking drugs is a reason for punishment - extreme punishment, at that? Even if the bloke did not have to steal in order to buy them?
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Sept 7, 2010 1:15:59 GMT
Aubrey - There wasn't any need to search Cameron Douglas. He was spaced out all the time. His father was disgusted with him. He became a worthless druggie. That's what happens to just about every druggie.
You are taking an indefensible position when you attempt to justify drug use. I don't know whether you yourself are a worthless druggie but your posts here suggest that you may be. There is no viable defense for hard drug use. It is ruination for the person who makes the mistake of partaking. For your sake, I hope you aren't one of those self deluded druggies who is spaced out and screwed up beyond all hope.
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Post by mouse on Sept 7, 2010 6:07:04 GMT
Mouse - do you think taking drugs is a reason for punishment - extreme punishment, at that? cEven if the bloke did not have to steal in order to buy them? all depends on the circumstances as to the degree of punishment as for your remark """Even if the bloke did not have to steal in order to buy them""" not too sure what you mean by that remark ? but in general we know where most poppy is grown... afghanistan[most not all] and we know what it funds....on those grounds alone it is a murderous habit....and is partially enabling the killing of our young soldiers...... peoples recreational habit or adiction is killing others
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Post by riotgrrl on Sept 7, 2010 6:48:51 GMT
Aubrey - There wasn't any need to search Cameron Douglas. He was spaced out all the time. His father was disgusted with him. He became a worthless druggie. That's what happens to just about every druggie. You are taking an indefensible position when you attempt to justify drug use. I don't know whether you yourself are a worthless druggie but your posts here suggest that you may be. There is no viable defense for hard drug use. It is ruination for the person who makes the mistake of partaking. For your sake, I hope you aren't one of those self deluded druggies who is spaced out and screwed up beyond all hope. Bushadmirer, just because you have comprehensively lost this debate, there's no need to launch a personal attack on Aubrey. He has been very patient with you.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 7, 2010 8:21:40 GMT
No, no. I'm a liberal, so I must be spaced out on drugs all the time. Only conservatives are sensible. I realised that long ago.
Mouse - any cash crop in Afghanistan would help fund the Taliban. It just happens to be poppies. (They are a good cash crop because the product that comes from them is illegal. The Taliban like the illegality of them as well.)
(By the way, did I ever mantion that the best hash (IE - cannabis resin) comes from Afghanistan as well? Well, that's how it was in my day. Afghan Black, it was called. Golly - I haven't had that in 30 years. I remember one time... but how these old dopers do go on...)
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