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Post by fretslider on Aug 17, 2010 11:16:11 GMT
Is there a mod around here anywhere? WTH does this have to do with why Prohibition failed? Shouldn't this thread be in the member's vegie patch? Prohibition - noun 1 the act of prohibiting or state of being prohibited. 2 a law or decree that prohibits something. Drugs are, er, prohibited and the policy has, er, failed.
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Post by aubrey on Aug 17, 2010 17:20:53 GMT
The thing started off as a joke; but alcohol prohibition failed for more reasons than the (funny) picture in the original post, and it caused a hell of a lot more problems than it thought it was solving.
And drug prohibition is just the same.
"We must learn from history in order that we may cock things up in exactly the same way as our forefathers did."
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Post by fretslider on Aug 17, 2010 17:27:52 GMT
The thing started off as a joke; but alcohol prohibition failed for more reasons than the (funny) picture in the original post, and it caused a hell of a lot more problems than it thought it was solving. And drug prohibition is just the same. "We must learn from history in order that we may cock things up in exactly the same way as our forefathers did." We might have, but the powers that be never will.... it seems.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 18, 2010 0:27:31 GMT
Alcohol is much less addictive than heroin, cocaine, and meth. The comparison is invalid.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Aug 18, 2010 1:34:47 GMT
Alcohol is much less addictive than heroin, cocaine, and meth. The comparison is invalid. The actual physical addiction to alcohol is alledged to be worse than a heroin addiction..brain damage, delirum tremors, etc.. but a heroin addiction is harder to break. I think it's OK for people dying from a painful terminal illness to receive powerful pain killers, such as heroin, but it should never be made available to people, who don't understand the consequences that the usage of this drug brings.
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Post by mouse on Aug 18, 2010 7:30:04 GMT
quite anna...i have no problem with using drugs as pain reliefe
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Post by mouse on Aug 18, 2010 7:35:15 GMT
Yea right Aubrey, drugs are not evil and cancer is good for you. Keep dreaming. Magic mushrooms do not give you cancer, trip on das magic mushrooms,, ;D when i was very young..knew a chap who wanted to try magic mushrooms...he didnt know what he was doing and actually picked and ate toadstools...nearly died and left himself with brain damage some how[dont know all the ins and outs of it]
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Post by gabriel on Aug 18, 2010 9:51:44 GMT
Is there a mod around here anywhere? WTH does this have to do with why Prohibition failed? Shouldn't this thread be in the member's vegie patch? Prohibition - noun 1 the act of prohibiting or state of being prohibited. 2 a law or decree that prohibits something. Drugs are, er, prohibited and the policy has, er, failed. Wow, it's Mr Dictionary. Try history. Prohibition - 1920/30's USA.
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Post by fretslider on Aug 18, 2010 10:43:25 GMT
Prohibition - noun 1 the act of prohibiting or state of being prohibited. 2 a law or decree that prohibits something. Drugs are, er, prohibited and the policy has, er, failed. Wow, it's Mr Dictionary. Try history. Prohibition - 1920/30's USA. So it took a whole day for you to come up with that one, hardly worth the effort. So you mean C 2H 6O. isn't a drug? Has your appeal for a mod fallen on deaf ears? Shame.
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Post by gabriel on Aug 18, 2010 11:00:07 GMT
Wow, it's Mr Dictionary. Try history. Prohibition - 1920/30's USA. So it took a whole day for you to come up with that one, hardly worth the effort. So you mean C 2H 6O. isn't a drug? Has your appeal for a mod fallen on deaf ears? Shame. No. My appeal hasn't fallen on deaf ears. It's fallen on interested ears. I don't live on message boards. A life. You might try to get one dictionary man. Caio. If you look it up, it means goodbye. In Italian.
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Post by fretslider on Aug 18, 2010 11:39:50 GMT
So it took a whole day for you to come up with that one, hardly worth the effort. So you mean C 2H 6O. isn't a drug? Has your appeal for a mod fallen on deaf ears? Shame. No. My appeal hasn't fallen on deaf ears. It's fallen on interested ears. I don't live on message boards. A life. You might try to get one dictionary man. Caio. If you look it up, it means goodbye. In Italian. Da vero, Gabriele? E chi e interessa? Nessuno. Sono sposato al una trevisana, e posso parlare in dialetto e Italiano! Che triste che sei, amico. Ciao.
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Post by aubrey on Aug 18, 2010 17:54:26 GMT
How will people ever understand the consequences of drugs if the Govt always lie about them?
Govt adverts about the effects of cannabis are pathetic:
Right. I've never had those effects (munchies, a couple of times). No panic attacks; memory loss, not really - about what you'd expect for someone my age; paranoia - no!! I did know someone who had paranoia about cannabis, but this was after he'd got busted so I'd say that his paranoia had more to do with that.
The heroin screws you up posters showed a kid who a lot of kids thought actually looked very cool - it looked like Johnny Depp, someone like that.
But anyway, from what they say about some drugs, that I know about, why should I believe what Govts say about any drugs? They're completely wrong on the ones I know about: so why will they be right about the ones I don't know about?
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Aug 19, 2010 18:43:56 GMT
Oh my. I can see I'm outnumbered in this thread.
My view is that RV, Aubrey, and Riotgrrl are all hopeless liberals with blinders firmly in place and heads buried deep in the sand. And yes, Riotgrrl, the word 'Liberal' does have very negative connotations.
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Post by aubrey on Aug 19, 2010 19:47:08 GMT
It does for you.
Do you think that "Frank" advert was all right, then? Do you think that Govts do not lie about drugs?
Do you think that drinking a lot of coffee is not bad for you?
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Post by aubrey on Aug 19, 2010 20:01:38 GMT
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Post by randomvioce on Aug 19, 2010 20:37:43 GMT
Oh my. I can see I'm outnumbered in this thread. My view is that RV, Aubrey, and Riotgrrl are all hopeless liberals with blinders firmly in place and heads buried deep in the sand. And yes, Riotgrrl, the word 'Liberal' does have very negative connotations. Instead of repeating the phrase 'hopeless liberal' why not include some substance instead? Throwing the term 'hopeless liberal' may impress people from you own backward culture, but some of us have moved on from the playground. So, instead of pointless name calling, let us see your evidence that the 'war on drugs' is being won or even capable of being won?
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Post by fretslider on Aug 19, 2010 21:23:32 GMT
So, instead of pointless name calling.... I had to chuckle at that one, very good
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Post by fretslider on Aug 19, 2010 21:32:13 GMT
Interesting piece, Aubs. I've heard of the same thing with tobacco.... Two-year-old Ardi Rizal, who was given his first cigarette when he was 18-months-old, throws a tantrum when his parents refuse him a cigarette
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Post by mouse on Aug 20, 2010 7:28:29 GMT
[/url][/quote] [/quote]was there ever a serious..WAR against drugs...a lot of talk a lot of noise but..what ever the rights and wrongs of it... Temporary 'legal high' bans planned Swifter Government action is needed to tackle the problems posed by so called legal highs, a Home Office minister has said. Powers for year-long bans that can be put in place quickly will help take new substances off the market while a comprehensive review of their potential harm is carried out, Crime Prevention Minister James Brokenshire said. It comes after the legal high Ivory Wave was blamed for the death of chef Michael Bishton, 24, whose body was found in the sea in Whitecliff Bay, near Bembridge, Isle of Wight, on Saturday. His girlfriend Sammy Betts, 21, said he had started to become paranoid at his mother's home after taking the substance. Ivory Wave is sold legally for about £15 a packet and is advertised as relaxing bath salts. But the product has become popular as a legal alternative to illicit drugs. Outlining plans to introduce the temporary bans by the end of next year, Mr Brokenshire said: "The drugs market is changing and we need to adapt current laws to allow us to act more quickly. "The temporary ban allows us to act straight away to stop new substances gaining a foothold in the market, and help us tackle unscrupulous drug dealers trying to get round the law by peddling dangerous chemicals to young people." But he added that anyone tempted to try a legal high "must understand it is not safe or sensible to take a substance when you do not know what it is or what is in it - especially when some are claimed to be pond cleaner or bath salts".
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Post by mouse on Aug 20, 2010 8:52:12 GMT
back to the originel question why prohibition failed..it failed because more people wished to buy drink and go out for a drink and were willing to break the law to do so than didnt wish to buy drink.....its as simple as that
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