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Post by gg on Jun 11, 2010 15:03:44 GMT
It's one thing to see a bulging diaper and suspect what's inside, but that's different from opening the safety pins and looking inside.I guess it's because the smell accompanies the latter action.
This video is probably going to generate another demand that I shrivel up and die, which caused me to post this one.
refute what you can in the video
choke on the rest like we are having to do with:
the unwanted healthcare bill unwanted debt an anti-semite in the white house marxist,communist, socialist czars all over the white house a much weaker country and a leader who has a Narcissistic personality disorder
enjoy for another 954 Days, 03 Hours, 13 Minutes, 37 Seconds.
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Post by alanseago on Jun 11, 2010 15:43:25 GMT
Written by the Sinister Six and posted by The Clown.
Grow up!
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Post by june on Jun 11, 2010 21:02:29 GMT
Barak's done really well for himself. It's the American dream in action. With hard work an application anyone has the opportunity to become president. Well done mr Obama!
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 7:39:02 GMT
Written by the Sinister Six and posted by The Clown. Grow up! Is there a need to call him a clown? Why don't you talk about what's IN the video instead of attacking the messenger? Instead of ARROGANTLY attacking it, why don't YOU check out what's in it for yourself? You know: give things a chance by making the effort to look them up YOURSELF? I forgot: it's easier to down the messenger than do that, isn't it?
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 7:40:14 GMT
Barak's done really well for himself. It's the American dream in action. With hard work an application anyone has the opportunity to become president. Well done mr Obama! So it doesn't matter if someone does evil act after evil act as long as they get in office? What a GREAT standard to have!
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 7:41:45 GMT
It's one thing to see a bulging diaper and suspect what's inside, but that's different from opening the safety pins and looking inside.I guess it's because the smell accompanies the latter action. This video is probably going to generate another demand that I shrivel up and die, which caused me to post this one. refute what you can in the video choke on the rest like we are having to do with: the unwanted healthcare bill unwanted debt an anti-semite in the white house marxist,communist, socialist czars all over the white house a much weaker country and a leader who has a Narcissistic personality disorder enjoy for another 954 Days, 03 Hours, 13 Minutes, 37 Seconds. It'll be: willfully ignored; rationalized; outright denied; or said it comes from an e-mail or FOX (FAUX) news. I wish if the information that phony "Savior's" mother worked for a foundation had been in this along with the FACT that ***#### funder George Soros is a CONVICTED FINANCIAL CRIMINAL who's lost at least 1 appeal. What a guy! It makes me thank God even more I left the Democratic Party after finding out that ***### funds at least a few of the groups that worship that ***###-filled, corrupt Party. FYI, I never joined the Republican Party (thank God for that) and have no plans to. They're even more corrupt.
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Post by june on Jun 12, 2010 9:11:57 GMT
Barak's done really well for himself. It's the American dream in action. With hard work an application anyone has the opportunity to become president. Well done mr Obama! So it doesn't matter if someone does evil act after evil act as long as they get in office? What a GREAT standard to have! the only evil I see is the lengths some will go to in smearing the 1st black president. Fact is not supposition- they are different things
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 9:12:23 GMT
I watched about five minutes of it - all of the first video and as much as I could take of the irritating second - and my overwhelming feeling was a bored "so"?
If studying Marx rules a person out of future public life, that is bad news for all of us on my degree course, where it was part of the curriculum.
And if there was truth in some of the allegations, the press would have picked it up and run with it before now. Not that any of it seemed particularly sinister.
Sorry, but if film makers want normal human beings to take their "findings" seriously, they shouldn't make tat..
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Post by mouse on Jun 12, 2010 9:15:19 GMT
CERTAINLY interesting reading...but since when has reading marx been a crime too many unanswered questions
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 13:29:40 GMT
I watched about five minutes of it - all of the first video and as much as I could take of the irritating second - and my overwhelming feeling was a bored "so"? If studying Marx rules a person out of future public life, that is bad news for all of us on my degree course, where it was part of the curriculum. And if there was truth in some of the allegations, the press would have picked it up and run with it before now. Not that any of it seemed particularly sinister. Sorry, but if film makers want normal human beings to take their "findings" seriously, they shouldn't make tat.. Please realize that many in the mainstream media has WILLFULLY IGNORED things over and over. Here's a current example: foro.univision.com/t5/Al-Punto-con-Jorge-Ramos/Obama-and-Emanuel-Members-of-same-gay-bath-house-in-Chicago/td-p/396423277The ORIGINAL source for this is the INDEPENDENT (thank God for those) reporter Wayne Madsen. I heard him interviewed about this. Doesn't it disgust you that a bunch of women who said they had sex with Bill Clinton were all OVER the mainstream media while THIS isn't?
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 13:35:42 GMT
So it doesn't matter if someone does evil act after evil act as long as they get in office? What a GREAT standard to have! the only evil I see is the lengths some will go to in smearing the 1st black president. Fact is not supposition- they are different things It's a FACT that this ***### RENEWED the Patriot Act, OK? It's a FACT that the ***#### voted for IMMUNITY FOR THE PHONE COMPANIES WHO ARE ILLEGALLY SPYING ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Those acts aren't evil? Really? Please don't give into the GARBAGE that all who POINT OUT THE REPEATED EVILS of this ***### are racist. It's a disgusting, CHEAP cop-out that people have run with INSTEAD of taking the time to see what this ***#### has actually DONE and SAID instead of WHAT RACE HE IS.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 13:42:42 GMT
Did Obama promise to repeal the Patriot Act, then? And why did it need renewing? From what I've read, both Democrats and Repulicans supported it when it was brought in during the Bush administration.
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 13:44:23 GMT
I watched about five minutes of it - all of the first video and as much as I could take of the irritating second - and my overwhelming feeling was a bored "so"? If studying Marx rules a person out of future public life, that is bad news for all of us on my degree course, where it was part of the curriculum. And if there was truth in some of the allegations, the press would have picked it up and run with it before now. Not that any of it seemed particularly sinister. Sorry, but if film makers want normal human beings to take their "findings" seriously, they shouldn't make tat.. I DO agree with you that just reading Karl Marx isn't bad in and of itself. It's 1 of the things in this video that ISN'T fair.
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 13:49:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 14:01:58 GMT
Oh thanks. It was extended by a majority vote by both congress and Senate, right|?
I can see why some voters will feel let down, though. But can somene really be held by what he said seven years ago? There is no suggestion that he made any promise to vote against it since then.
I suspect that the Act will need to be replaced by something; simply repealing it would leave a lacuna, no? Rushing legislation through just creates more problems. But if he extends it again next year without revision...well, no excuses then!
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Post by june on Jun 12, 2010 14:04:20 GMT
the only evil I see is the lengths some will go to in smearing the 1st black president. Fact is not supposition- they are different things It's a FACT that this ***### RENEWED the Patriot Act, OK? It's a FACT that the ***#### voted for IMMUNITY FOR THE PHONE COMPANIES WHO ARE ILLEGALLY SPYING ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Those acts aren't evil? Really? Please don't give into the GARBAGE that all who POINT OUT THE REPEATED EVILS of this ***### are racist. It's a disgusting, CHEAP cop-out that people have run with INSTEAD of taking the time to see what this ***#### has actually DONE and SAID instead of WHAT RACE HE IS. you appear a little hysterical calm down love - 99% of Americans don't care so imagine how all of us in the rest of the world feel. ;D Two minor issues that you personally don't agree with does not make it/him EVIL and quite frankly if those acts equate evil to you, then you have led a very sheltered and dream like life, so celebrate that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 14:18:18 GMT
Anyway, why would the phne companies want to spy on the American people? I thought it was the security forces who were being accused of phone tapping without the proper authority.
What people seem to have wanted Obama to do (if I've understood this right) is to implement more controls to ensure the security forces are acting within the law, and he hasn't.
(Have I got this right? It isn't wasy to pick out the relevant points from a video.)
As June says, it probably isn't the number one thing on the average citizen's mind just at the moment.
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 15:14:55 GMT
Oh thanks. It was extended by a majority vote by both congress and Senate, right|? I can see why some voters will feel let down, though. But can somene really be held by what he said seven years ago? There is no suggestion that he made any promise to vote against it since then. I suspect that the Act will need to be replaced by something; simply repealing it would leave a lacuna, no? Rushing legislation through just creates more problems. But if he extends it again next year without revision...well, no excuses then! When you make a promise, do you put a time limit on it? NO! IF you make a promise and THEN change your mind, the DECENT thing to do is to SAY THAT. This **### couldn't even do that. It's more proof of what he is OVERALL. A promise made is to be KEPT and if the person making it changes their mind, then they should STATE THAT.
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 15:22:32 GMT
It's a FACT that this ***### RENEWED the Patriot Act, OK? It's a FACT that the ***#### voted for IMMUNITY FOR THE PHONE COMPANIES WHO ARE ILLEGALLY SPYING ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Those acts aren't evil? Really? Please don't give into the GARBAGE that all who POINT OUT THE REPEATED EVILS of this ***### are racist. It's a disgusting, CHEAP cop-out that people have run with INSTEAD of taking the time to see what this ***#### has actually DONE and SAID instead of WHAT RACE HE IS. you appear a little hysterical calm down love - 99% of Americans don't care so imagine how all of us in the rest of the world feel. ;D Two minor issues that you personally don't agree with does not make it/him EVIL and quite frankly if those acts equate evil to you, then you have led a very sheltered and dream like life, so celebrate that. Most don't care: yes, you're 100% right. I used to be 1 of them! I hate that and always will. Please realize that's a BIG reason that these **### keep getting elected. You really think these are minor issues? Would you say that to those who HAVE been put away because of the evil Patriot Act? Is it minor to them? www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/we-snooped-on-i/-was THIS minor? No, it wasn't and never will be! You can call me hysterical, etc. I've heard it all before. I'd rather be labeled than ACCEPT or BELIEVE the lie that these things are "minor". If saying that certain things are evil and ALWAYS will be makes me sheltered, etc. fine with me! ;D
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Post by pumpkinette on Jun 12, 2010 15:23:12 GMT
Anyway, why would the phne companies want to spy on the American people? I thought it was the security forces who were being accused of phone tapping without the proper authority. What people seem to have wanted Obama to do (if I've understood this right) is to implement more controls to ensure the security forces are acting within the law, and he hasn't. (Have I got this right? It isn't wasy to pick out the relevant points from a video.) As June says, it probably isn't the number one thing on the average citizen's mind just at the moment. The phone companies are doing the dirty work of spying: www.aclu.org/national-security/foreign-intelligence-surveillance-act-fisa
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