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Post by Ben Lomond on May 16, 2010 11:20:30 GMT
For goodness sake lighten up a bit, Random. These notes were compiled and circulated for a bit of a laugh, really, although the sheer ignorance and lack of thought in most of them is somewhat worrying . No-one is suggesting that they would result in poor patient care, and no-one is "badmouthing" the NHS. But no-one in their right mind would dismiss them as "typos", either. Hitting the wrong key causes a typo; not compiling an illiterate sentence.
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Post by randomvioce on May 16, 2010 11:26:05 GMT
No-one is suggesting that they would result in poor patient care, and no-one is "badmouthing" the NHS. That was the goal of the the OP, Ned. BA has openly been suggesting that the NHs is a bad thing, you have had your tussels with him on that subject. Most of these things are just a bad chioce of words, most of which we can guess their meaning and nothing really to worry about.
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Post by firedancer on May 16, 2010 11:29:57 GMT
Going back to the OP, I hate to burst the humour bubble about the NHS but this list (with some different examples and some the same) has been circulating the internet for donkey's years - mostly a type of urban myth. It certainly circulated among the doctors and scientists I worked with early in the 2000s and its attribution is uncertain but is of American origin. A mixture of genuine bloopers from various sources and probably made up stuff. NB: note the American spelling and terminology e.g. ER. Bit of a giveaway. In the UK the common term is A & E. ;D It certainly has precious little to do with Glasgow. For example see: bloopers
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Post by randomvioce on May 16, 2010 11:43:53 GMT
Going back to the OP, I hate to burst the humour bubble about the NHS but this list (with some different examples and some the same) has been circulating the internet for donkey's years - mostly a type of urban myth. It certainly circulated among the doctors and scientists I worked with early in the 2000s and its attribution is uncertain but is of American origin. A mixture of genuine bloopers from various sources and probably made up stuff. NB: note the American spelling and terminology e.g. ER. Bit of a giveaway. In the UK the common term is A & E. ;D It certainly has precious little to do with Glasgow. For example see: bloopersIn other words the sub human Republicans added a British name to make this about the NHS, but in factthis has been doing the rounds for years? They are too stupid to even tell lies about the NHS. Why am I not suprised?
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Post by mouse on May 16, 2010 13:26:55 GMT
Going back to the OP, I hate to burst the humour bubble about the NHS but this list (with some different examples and some the same) has been circulating the internet for donkey's years - mostly a type of urban myth. It certainly circulated among the doctors and scientists I worked with early in the 2000s and its attribution is uncertain but is of American origin. A mixture of genuine bloopers from various sources and probably made up stuff. NB: note the American spelling and terminology e.g. ER. Bit of a giveaway. In the UK the common term is A & E. ;D It certainly has precious little to do with Glasgow. For example see: bloopersIn other words the sub human Republicans ? oh dear..subhumans again...wonder if they eat babies...roast or fried
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Post by riotgrrl on May 16, 2010 15:23:44 GMT
Nonsense. These are notes written by people who are under pressure (I'm not sure about "medical secretaries " - they sound like notes from doctors and others) - and have written, or more likely dictated, things without spending hours reviewing them. We all know what they meant to say. We sometimes pay far too much attention to form, and far too little to substance. As for laughing (well, some of them cheered me up no end!) So they're not true anyway. But Skylark is right about the dictatign/getting typed thing. When I was sick recently, I received a letter from my consultant asking me to come for an appointment. The letter said 'to examine your womb'. As I'd just had a hysterectomy, this seemed unlikely. I did, however, have an infected 'wound'. He just dictates his letters, and some secretary types them.
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Post by sadie1263 on May 16, 2010 15:34:02 GMT
I guess I just get appalled at the lack of pride people have in their work. I read over stuff I send out.......even if it is just a simple memo......it's important to me for it to be correct......for every word to be spelled correctly.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2010 16:37:36 GMT
For goodness sake lighten up a bit, Random. These notes were compiled and circulated for a bit of a laugh, really, although the sheer ignorance and lack of thought in most of them is somewhat worrying . No-one is suggesting that they would result in poor patient care, and no-one is "badmouthing" the NHS. But no-one in their right mind would dismiss them as "typos", either. Hitting the wrong key causes a typo; not compiling an illiterate sentence. They didn't worry me, simply because none of them would result in any mistreatment. Many of them sound like the sort of thing that used to come out when I tried to dictate; I never grasped it and had to correct most of what came back from the typists. But I had the time to go through these and get them re-done; doctors don't, although I dare say they are tuned to pick up important errors. Dictation is an art, and frankly I'd rather my doctors got trained in medicine than secretarial skills. Voice recgnitin may have improved, but that was pretty dire in the early days; I wonder if any of those errors could be due to that? Come to think of it, some of those selected could have been made up. We've no proof that any are real - I see Riot has said something similar.
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Post by mikemarshall on May 16, 2010 16:38:17 GMT
I recall vividly an extraordinary letter when Lin and I were working as teachers of English as a foreign language in Istanbul.
It contained around a dozen spelling mistakes and eight or nine grammatical errors.
As a supreme touch it was signed 'The Mangement!'
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Post by iamjumbo on May 16, 2010 17:05:12 GMT
My own personal opinion is that anything run by government is going to be mediocre at best. Doesn't matter whether we're talking about medical care or a restaurant in one of our national parks. If the government has a hand in it then we shouldn't be expecting much in terms of quality. Private enterprise always does better than government. and that's precisely why you always lose. the simple REALITY is that this is EXACTLY what you would find if you checked ANY corporate documents in the u.s., particularly in the insurance industry. sorry about your luck, lad
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Post by iamjumbo on May 16, 2010 17:29:46 GMT
My own personal opinion is that anything run by government is going to be mediocre at best. Doesn't matter whether we're talking about medical care or a restaurant in one of our national parks. If the government has a hand in it then we shouldn't be expecting much in terms of quality. Private enterprise always does better than government. and that's precisely why you always lose. the simple REALITY is that this is EXACTLY what you would find if you checked ANY corporate documents in the u.s., particularly in the insurance industry. sorry about your luck, lad
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on May 16, 2010 17:30:50 GMT
One of the great mysteries of our time is how Obama got anyone to vote for him.
After listening to this interview it all becomes clear.
Here we have a typical Obama supporter caught on tape. Jumbo tune in and listen to one of your fellow Democrats as she explains things.
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Post by beez0811 on May 16, 2010 17:32:03 GMT
Jim, he is somewhat correct. If said private business has all their stuff toghether and they know what they're doing, they will most likely do better than the government version.
You are right about there being typos in corporate documents. My previous employer still probably can't decide on how they want to spell vacuum. I imagine there are less typos compared to a government document of the same worth. The government doesn't always know what is best.
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Post by iamjumbo on May 16, 2010 17:34:26 GMT
Going back to the OP, I hate to burst the humour bubble about the NHS but this list (with some different examples and some the same) has been circulating the internet for donkey's years - mostly a type of urban myth. It certainly circulated among the doctors and scientists I worked with early in the 2000s and its attribution is uncertain but is of American origin. A mixture of genuine bloopers from various sources and probably made up stuff. NB: note the American spelling and terminology e.g. ER. Bit of a giveaway. In the UK the common term is A & E. ;D It certainly has precious little to do with Glasgow. For example see: bloopersIn other words the sub human Republicans added a British name to make this about the NHS, but in factthis has been doing the rounds for years? They are too stupid to even tell lies about the NHS. Why am I not suprised? no sir. the question is, why WOULD you be surprised? you already know that the republicans have always been incapable of presenting ANYTHING remotely resembling fact
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Post by iamjumbo on May 16, 2010 17:38:25 GMT
I recall vividly an extraordinary letter when Lin and I were working as teachers of English as a foreign language in Istanbul. It contained around a dozen spelling mistakes and eight or nine grammatical errors. As a supreme touch it was signed 'The Mangement!' that's because the simple, yet irrefutable, FACT is that the majority in "management" are too stupid to do anything constructive. intelligence is NOT a requirement for an mba, and you seldom find one who is
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Post by randomvioce on May 16, 2010 18:40:11 GMT
If said private business has all their stuff toghether and they know what they're doing, they will most likely do better than the government version. Where does the evidence for that come? Everyday I see one cock up after another as businesses go bust, huge wastes of money, graft etc. I see private enterprise kill thousands of people every year in preventable deaths. I can find you failures every day. About twenty years ago we privatised our NHS cleaning contracts. We went from spotless wards to a position where thousands die of hospital aquired infections. This is a failure of private business. ITV. They bought the website 'friends reunited' for a total of 120 million quid and sold it for 25 million quid a whooping 95 million quid loss! 95 million quid! No wonder their programmes are shit. These people run a TV company, no-one in the BBC would get away with that under any circumstances. People with that track record wouldn't be allowed to count paperclips in the BBC, yet they are allowed to buy a dot com! RBS reported the biggest loss ever recorded in the UK and the CEO walked away with a pension the size of a small Country.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2010 19:05:53 GMT
Private firms have huge advantages over public ones. They can pick and choose their customers - the public service can't. They can choose not to reply to letters, or provide answers under the Freedon of Information Act.
I've recently had problems with a firm of private bailiffs who seem to think someone is living here who doesn't. We phoned, we've written, no joy, no reply. The public sector simply wouldn't get away with that so we've had to go to to them for redress. Get my point?
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Post by iamjumbo on May 16, 2010 19:07:48 GMT
Jim, he is somewhat correct. If said private business has all their stuff toghether and they know what they're doing, they will most likely do better than the government version. You are right about there being typos in corporate documents. My previous employer still probably can't decide on how they want to spell vacuum. I imagine there are less typos compared to a government document of the same worth. The government doesn't always know what is best. you're right that the government doesn't always know what is best, but if it only knows what is best one percent of the time, that's being right a hundred times more than any corporation. the reality is that the government is concerned with the welfare of everyone, while the corporation is concerned with the welfare of NO ONE but the lunatics who run it. aig is the typical insurance company, not an exception. exxon mobil is the typical oil company. goldman sachs is the typical banking outfit, courtrywide is the typical mortgage company, and on, and on, and on in EVERY facet of life, what is important is what is best for YOU, not what is best for a stockholder, ever
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Post by june on May 16, 2010 20:47:12 GMT
I used to 'sell' public sector work to the private sector.
In not a single case over 7 years, did the private sector either perform better or cheaper. In fact - some of the fraud committed would make you, as a tax payer, weep.
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Post by june on May 16, 2010 20:57:41 GMT
I recall vividly an extraordinary letter when Lin and I were working as teachers of English as a foreign language in Istanbul. It contained around a dozen spelling mistakes and eight or nine grammatical errors. As a supreme touch it was signed 'The Mangement!' that's because the simple, yet irrefutable, FACT is that the majority in "management" are too stupid to do anything constructive. intelligence is NOT a requirement for an mba, and you seldom find one who is The only fact here is that yet again you are confusing 'your opinion' with 'fact'. Sadly, claiming something is irrefutable doesn't make it so. So, either provide empirical evidence to support your 'fact' or, give it a rest old bean. ;D
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