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Post by Mo-DAWG on May 7, 2010 19:28:30 GMT
terrorists? Islamic Terrorists?
I say HELL NO!!!
Why???
cuz that would make the terrorist a "martyr" .. now you might say "so what.. we've executed him so fuck his "martyrdom"... we've got him .. we've won"... again HELL NO ... that "martyrdom" would fire his "muslim brothers" up even more to either support terrorism, or to avenge the "heroic martyr brother" or to become a "hero/martyr" themsleves .. we are not taking this "martyr" term serious enough .. THEY DO .. + they WANT "martyrs", they want us to execute them cuz "martyrdom" is part of their PR machinery .. by executing their terrorists we work right into their hands - doing exactly what they want ..
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Post by lonewolf on May 7, 2010 22:09:01 GMT
A terrorist who kills innocent people should be treated no differently than any other murderer. If we give special considerations to terrorists, as you suggest, then we have played right into their hands.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on May 7, 2010 22:25:06 GMT
A terrorist who kills innocent people should be treated no differently than any other murderer. If we give special considerations to terrorists, as you suggest, then we have played right into their hands. wolf - if we execute them THEN we are playing right into their hands .. then we are creating their " martyrs" and thats exactly what they want .. martyrs are the best working tool for their PR machinery.. thats why they dont just bomb like in the 70ies but use suicide bombers = martyrs, heroes for their cause...
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Post by chefmate on May 8, 2010 4:30:08 GMT
Well, if before we execute them, we smear some hog fat on them, they will believe they cannot enter heaven therefore we have eliminated the problem of keeping them alive and have f**ked up their eternity
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Post by lonewolf on May 10, 2010 10:49:06 GMT
wolf - if we execute them THEN we are playing right into their hands .. Nonsense! The moment we give special considerations to a terrorist and treat him any differently than we do other murderers THEN we have played right into the hands of the terrorists.
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Post by mouse on May 10, 2010 11:02:51 GMT
of course they should be executed....i know they want martyerdom...that is the only way they get their kicks..BUT at the same time we should be playing them at their own game...using the words of mohammed against them in a blaze of publicity....and a dead martyer is afterall a dead martyer and cannot then carryon the fight and as chefmate says..a bit of pig fat or pigs blood goes a long long way..and should be used we should not be pandering to ANY religious belifes in the 21st century...the more we pander the greater the problem becomes..use their religion and superstitiona against them
and emphasise the fact that martyers and suicide bombers are all YOUNG men or women,,,,make the point that is paradise is sooooo welcome why are the old avoiding being suicide bombers or plane blowers uppers...why is it that its old men sending the young to die start using emotion against those who use emotion to kill and maim there are more ways of skinning a cat than one
the more time we""play by the rules""..the more get killed the answer is clear...we change our rules
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Post by pumpkinpie on May 10, 2010 17:56:40 GMT
wolf - if we execute them THEN we are playing right into their hands .. Nonsense! The moment we give special considerations to a terrorist and treat him any differently than we do other murderers THEN we have played right into the hands of the terrorists. I'm not sure, but I think this is in reference to, no murderers being executed. If murderers aren't executed, should terrorists still be? My answer would be no.
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Post by fretslider on May 10, 2010 18:10:09 GMT
terrorists? Islamic Terrorists? I say HELL NO!!! Why??? cuz that would make the terrorist a "martyr" .. now you might say "so what.. we've executed him so fuck his "martyrdom"... we've got him .. we've won"... again HELL NO ... that "martyrdom" would fire his "muslim brothers" up even more to either support terrorism, or to avenge the "heroic martyr brother" or to become a "hero/martyr" themsleves .. we are not taking this "martyr" term serious enough .. THEY DO .. + they WANT "martyrs", they want us to execute them cuz "martyrdom" is part of their PR machinery .. by executing their terrorists we work right into their hands - doing exactly what they want .. In this country there have been far too many wrongful convictions. Guildford 4, Birmingham 6 and many individuals who were many years later proven innocent. They were mainly found guilty through Police corruption; a need to feel a collar, and inept investigations. Once the state has killed someone they cant be freed when the evidence shows their innocence. The state should not be lowered to the level of a murderer. Life should mean just that; life. How can we say our civilisation is superior to that of the Islamists if we operate on their level?
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Post by mouse on May 11, 2010 7:21:38 GMT
but we dont operate on their level...when was the last time a retarded child of 14 was pimped and then hung for adultary...[mother and client getting off scot free] and many many other cases..we dont operate on the same level at all......
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