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Post by trubble on Mar 12, 2010 10:54:09 GMT
Just FTR, when my partner and I had our civil partnership, we both wore trousers, and I wore a linen jacket - but not a tuxedo. She made us wear corsages, though. I wouldn't have bothered. And we went to the registry office on the train. The train! The heterosexual train?!! How very dare you. But weren't you offending heterosexuals' rights to have a train without having to allow civil liberties on it? Sounds lovely, Jean.
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Post by trubble on Mar 12, 2010 10:55:36 GMT
This is not a 'hetrosexual' event, this is a school event No, this is a complete bore. People might find they would enjoy sex more if they just got on with it, rather than indulging in middle class hand-wringing and angst. Whatever floats your boat. Huh? What's this got to do with middle-class hand-wringing? RV is right. It's a school event, not a heterosexual one.
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Post by jean on Mar 12, 2010 10:58:22 GMT
But weren't you offending heterosexuals' rights to have a train...? The fairly casual attire would not have drawn attention to us, but the flowers made it fairly clear what we were up to - but I'm glad to say, nobody on the train batted an eyelid.
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Post by fretslider on Mar 12, 2010 11:58:52 GMT
No, this is a complete bore. People might find they would enjoy sex more if they just got on with it, rather than indulging in middle class hand-wringing and angst. Whatever floats your boat. Huh? What's this got to do with middle-class hand-wringing? RV is right. It's a school event, not a heterosexual one. Who cares if they're left footers or not? Whatever floats your boat
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Post by trubble on Mar 12, 2010 12:10:55 GMT
Catholics, Fret? What do they have to do with anything? Are you saying the school principal is a jerk who should just let the kids be themselves, man. Right on. I agree.
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Post by jean on Mar 12, 2010 12:17:56 GMT
Who cares if they're left footers or not? You mean, so long as they don't advertise it? (I thought 'left-footers' were Catholics!)
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 12, 2010 12:21:44 GMT
Who cares if they're left footers or not? (I thought 'left-footers' were Catholics!) (They are where I come from. And we're surely the experts in offensive terms for different Christian denominations.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2010 12:22:49 GMT
Just FTR, when my partner and I had our civil partnership, we both wore trousers, and I wore a linen jacket - but not a tuxedo. She made us wear corsages, though. I wouldn't have bothered. And we went to the registry office on the train. Ooh, no-one needs those these liberated days, do they, unless they are very fat.... let it all hang out !
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Post by fretslider on Mar 12, 2010 12:23:50 GMT
Who cares if they're left footers or not? You mean, so long as they don't advertise it? (I thought 'left-footers' were Catholics!) No, I mean WHO cares. Catholics? I thought they were shirt-lifters.
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Post by o on Mar 12, 2010 12:26:18 GMT
i thought that one of the letters in the link from the opening post was so good that i am reprinting it here:
Prom is supposed to be a celebration of a coming of age marked by a student's graduation.
If any of these kids agree with and are willing to comply with the rules of this school board, they haven't learned a useful thing in their whole time in High School. They will be forever socially and professionally crippled by their own intolerance, lack of adaptability and inability to rally for justice. If not justice for their young lesbian classmates, then justice for themselves. Because they as students should be demanding a better education from their school board; one that will truly free them to live in a shrinking and changing world where all kinds of individuals will choose to live and work together in harmony and free from prejudice. Therefore, as long as they sit whining about their fate and longing for one evening of shoddy glamour over a lifetime of progress, no matter what their transcripts say, they haven't graduated, grown or learned anything at all.
So, no prom for any of them. They haven't earned it. Makes sense to me.
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Post by jade on Mar 12, 2010 13:42:44 GMT
Just FTR, when my partner and I had our civil partnership, we both wore trousers, and I wore a linen jacket - but not a tuxedo. She made us wear corsages, though. I wouldn't have bothered. And we went to the registry office on the train. Ooh, no-one needs those these liberated days, do they, unless they are very fat.... let it all hang out ! um thats a corsair
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Post by chefmate on Mar 12, 2010 16:00:48 GMT
Just FTR, when my partner and I had our civil partnership, we both wore trousers, and I wore a linen jacket - but not a tuxedo. She made us wear corsages, though. I wouldn't have bothered. And we went to the registry office on the train. Ooh, no-one needs those these liberated days, do they, unless they are very fat.... let it all hang out ! I'm really confused here........a corsage is a flower worn on the front of a dress or a man's lapel but a girdle is what women wear to hold the fat but no one wears them anymore
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2010 16:20:50 GMT
Oh silly me - I was mixing them up with corsets. But thanks, I was racking my brains to think what a corsage was ...
(or a corsair, come to think of it. Are they Easy Jet cabin crew?)
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Mar 13, 2010 16:44:54 GMT
Question. Does anyone know of the existence of a 'lesbian bar' anywhere in the UK which bans men? In Glasgow, one of our biggest cities, I know we have a LGBT 'area' (a handful of pubs and cafes close to each other), but girls and boys of all sexualities go there. It's just that the area is seen as LGBT 'friendly'. Same in Edinburgh, which is famous for its thriving LGBT community. So I want to know where these 'lesbian bars' are? Are they solely a US thing? And whereabouts in the US are they? I've done some googling, and there were, for instance, several lesbian bars in Chicago, but they were not 'women-only' by rules (they may have ended up that way by the choice of drinkers - but men were not 'banned') and they have mostly closed now. So here's today's challenge . . . find a link to a 'lesbian bar' where men are banned. In Frankfurt, Germany an Arab man sturmed his way into a Lesbian bar that excluded men. When they refused to serve him and asked him to leave he pulled out a knife and stabbed several girls. Stuttgart used to have a girls only Lesbian bar, but it closed! I guess there's a controversy in Washington, D.C. about a Lesbian bar where the girls may invite a male friend. The nearby Marine base has a lot of guys, who are upset about not being allowed to come to the Lesbian bar as singles! www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/02/11/why-does-dcs-first-lesbian-bar-have-a-problem-with-marines/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2010 17:25:50 GMT
When the Sex Discrimination Act was passed in the 70s, there was much publicity about a "ladies only" bar in Reading having to close.
What a shame, I said, that there was no longer a safe place for gentle middle aged women to enjoy a quiet drink without being pestered by anyone. Oh, the embarrassment when I discovered that it wasn't really that sort of place.....
How naive I was!
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 13, 2010 18:11:17 GMT
Ok, so I think we've established that there are, by law, no 'women-only' bars in the Uk, and few in the USA.
Yet, Anna has suggested their existence is fair compensation for a lesbian being forbidden from bringing her love to the Prom.
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 13, 2010 18:21:54 GMT
Most lesbian bars and clubs exclude all males as customers and visitors! i support their right to do so! The homosexual community simply should respect the fact that there are exclusively heterosexual events too!
This is not a 'hetrosexual' event, this is a school event, both women are pupils of the school, they are both entitled to go and one of them wants to wear a tux. I believe in freedom, therefore I am on their side rather than the backward redneck scum. THREE CHEERS FOR THE ACLU UPHOLDING AMERICAN VALUES don't be so daft. the prom is an extracurricular event, exactly the same as the football team. there are standards that have to be followed, first of all. there is also the point that, since it has absolutely NOTHING to do with academics, the school is perfectly free to cancel it for NO reason if they so choose. the anti civil liberties union has not upheld american values in over three decades
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 13, 2010 18:23:40 GMT
This is not a 'hetrosexual' event, this is a school event, both women are pupils of the school, they are both entitled to go and one of them wants to wear a tux. I believe in freedom, therefore I am on their side rather than the backward redneck scum. THREE CHEERS FOR THE ACLU UPHOLDING AMERICAN VALUES don't be so daft. the prom is an extracurricular event, exactly the same as the football team. there are standards that have to be followed, first of all. there is also the point that, since it has absolutely NOTHING to do with academics, the school is perfectly free to cancel it for NO reason if they so choose. the anti civil liberties union has not upheld american values in over three decades I thought American values were all about freedom and individualism???
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Post by iamjumbo on Mar 13, 2010 18:24:54 GMT
Question. Does anyone know of the existence of a 'lesbian bar' anywhere in the UK which bans men? In Glasgow, one of our biggest cities, I know we have a LGBT 'area' (a handful of pubs and cafes close to each other), but girls and boys of all sexualities go there. It's just that the area is seen as LGBT 'friendly'. Same in Edinburgh, which is famous for its thriving LGBT community. So I want to know where these 'lesbian bars' are? Are they solely a US thing? And whereabouts in the US are they? I've done some googling, and there were, for instance, several lesbian bars in Chicago, but they were not 'women-only' by rules (they may have ended up that way by the choice of drinkers - but men were not 'banned') and they have mostly closed now. So here's today's challenge . . . find a link to a 'lesbian bar' where men are banned. i've never heard of a lesbian bar where men were banned. a thousand years ago, a dyke tried to stab me in one just because i bought her girlfriend a second beer. there were a couple of other males in there, but so far as i know, i was the only straight one
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 13, 2010 18:31:21 GMT
Question. Does anyone know of the existence of a 'lesbian bar' anywhere in the UK which bans men? In Glasgow, one of our biggest cities, I know we have a LGBT 'area' (a handful of pubs and cafes close to each other), but girls and boys of all sexualities go there. It's just that the area is seen as LGBT 'friendly'. Same in Edinburgh, which is famous for its thriving LGBT community. So I want to know where these 'lesbian bars' are? Are they solely a US thing? And whereabouts in the US are they? I've done some googling, and there were, for instance, several lesbian bars in Chicago, but they were not 'women-only' by rules (they may have ended up that way by the choice of drinkers - but men were not 'banned') and they have mostly closed now. So here's today's challenge . . . find a link to a 'lesbian bar' where men are banned. i've never heard of a lesbian bar where men were banned. a thousand years ago, a dyke tried to stab me in one just because i bought her girlfriend a second beer. there were a couple of other males in there, but so far as i know, i was the only straight one Kudos to you for going to a lesbian bar and behaving like the straight man you are. I mean it. Sexuality apartheid is not the way forward. Which is why the lesbian girl should be allowed to the prom, just as you should have been allowed to be in that bar buying whoever you liked drinks.
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