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Post by june on Jan 17, 2010 18:11:39 GMT
Actually that isn't my job at all. I show how to consider choices and consequences, just how I was raised. As I don't share your views on homosexuality I'd hardly raise my children to be biggots. No, but I'm not hung up on sexuality. I have no interest in my step sons sexuality. He's a happy healthy loving man, where he chooses to put his willy is not my concern. Why would it be? Homosexuality is a fact, I feel education should refect that. You cannot make someone gay or straight, no matter what you do. it IS your responsibility to lead your son to make the right choices, and obviously, being homo is NOT a right choice. yes, homosexuality is a fact, and yes, age appropriate information should be taught, along with the FACT that it is inherently wrong
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Post by riotgrrl on Jan 17, 2010 18:33:57 GMT
You know what, I'm not going there. I'll tell you for why. I don't care if homosexuality is nature or nurture. I don't care what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms. I'm not going to judge peoples' private sexual behaviour. I suspect it's probably mostly genetic, and partially environmental, but it doesn't matter. I don't care whether people are gay or straight, so why should I care what made them that way?
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2010 18:40:10 GMT
it IS your responsibility to lead your son to make the right choices, and obviously, being homo is NOT a right choice. yes, homosexuality is a fact, and yes, age appropriate information should be taught, along with the FACT that it is inherently wrong What's 'inherently wrong' about being homosexual? Our bedroom behaviour is nobody's business but our own. Homosexuals pay the same tax, but use far fewer services. Gay culture is vibrant and fun. As was said previously, are you all on drugs or something when you're seeing something 'inherently wrong' with being gay or lesbian.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2010 18:43:50 GMT
it IS your responsibility to lead your son to make the right choices, and obviously, being homo is NOT a right choice. yes, homosexuality is a fact, and yes, age appropriate information should be taught, along with the FACT that it is inherently wrong What's 'inherently wrong' about being homosexual? Our bedroom behaviour is nobody's business but our own. Homosexuals pay the same tax, but use far fewer services. Gay culture is vibrant and fun. As was said previously, are you all on drugs or something when you're seeing something 'inherently wrong' with being gay or lesbian. unfortunately, the ONLY thing that you are correct on is that our bedroom behavior is no one's business but ours. very few people object to degenerates practicing whatever behind the closed doors of their own home. it is when they take it into the public streets and attempt to act like their degeneracy is normal, that they create the problem. just to give you another stone to toss, personally, i don't have much of an objection to two girls getting it on, as long as they don't think that they have a right to get married.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2010 18:52:57 GMT
You cannot make someone gay or straight, no matter what you do. [/size][/color][/quote] Would you say then it's impossible to influence a child, concerning drug/alcohol abuse, criminal activity, etc.. Are you saying parential influence doesn't influence? Oh and Jumbo..i heard that most homosexual males don't do this act you mentioned.[/quote] well hon, that is EXACTLY how aids became a pandemic. while it happens, the chances of getting aids from oral sex is minimal, although is gays did use "safe" sex, aids would have never occurred as it has. of course, there is no way for two males to have "safe" oral sex.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2010 18:57:15 GMT
I would be astonished if future research does not establish with a high degree of certainty that there is a strong genetic basis to homosexuality - not a 'gay gene' - that's scientifically naive, but a number of genes probably on more than one chromosome that are either causal or exert a strong predisposition. The other recent pre-natal influence under research is the endocrine environment in the uterus. I seriously doubt that a straight person can be made homosexual (or vice-versa) by education, childhood influences etc. Of those that can, the likelihood is that they are already genetically or hormonally predisposed to bisexuality. Well, that kinda makes sense (but I'm no scientist). Certainly makes more sense than some notion of people going into schools and 'converting' people to homosexuality. it is not only the attempt to convert kids to homosexuality, it is the lunatical trying to teach them that something prima facie degenerate is acceptable
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jan 17, 2010 19:50:21 GMT
You know what, I'm not going there. I'll tell you for why. I don't care if homosexuality is nature or nurture. I don't care what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms. I'm not going to judge peoples' private sexual behaviour. I suspect it's probably mostly genetic, and partially environmental, but it doesn't matter. I don't care whether people are gay or straight, so why should I care what made them that way? I would never preach "hatred" towards anyone for being homosexual and would stop anyone who does. It's simply my firm conviction that the chances for a happy and forefilled life are much better if a person developes heterosexually! If being "biased" in favor of a healthy heterosexual family life is bigotry by PC standards than call me a bigot!
There's no garantee that heterosexual couples will live happily, but from what i've seen in the so called "gay scene" i say with conviction that heterosexuals have better chances!
I will continue to forcefully oppose schoolchildren being indoctrinated with pro homosexual fairy tales!
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Post by june on Jan 17, 2010 23:27:55 GMT
I'm not sure why PC gets the blame here Anna.
Respecting others choices when they do not affect you and your rights just seems like good manners to me - nothing to do with PC.
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2010 23:32:29 GMT
You know what, I'm not going there. I'll tell you for why. I don't care if homosexuality is nature or nurture. I don't care what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms. I'm not going to judge peoples' private sexual behaviour. I suspect it's probably mostly genetic, and partially environmental, but it doesn't matter. I don't care whether people are gay or straight, so why should I care what made them that way? I would never preach "hatred" towards anyone for being homosexual and would stop anyone who does. It's simply my firm conviction that the chances for a happy and forefilled life are much better if a person developes heterosexually! If being "biased" in favor of a healthy heterosexual family life is bigotry by PC standards than call me a bigot!
There's no garantee that heterosexual couples will live happily, but from what i've seen in the so called "gay scene" i say with conviction that heterosexuals have better chances!
I will continue to forcefully oppose schoolchildren being indoctrinated with pro homosexual fairy tales!pretty much. that's because heteros are not out every night trolling public park restrooms, airport restrooms, or other public facilities looking for gay sex, as all male homos do. that is just the homosexual lifestyle, and since sex does not equate with a relationship, well, the facts speak for themselves
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 17, 2010 23:35:23 GMT
I'm not sure why PC gets the blame here Anna. Respecting others choices when they do not affect you and your rights just seems like good manners to me - nothing to do with PC. it is nothing but pc bs. no one, or very few anyway, disrespects anyones choice as long as that individual doesn't try to pass a degenerate choice off as normal, and parade it around in public if f.gs were decent, there would be no such thing as a gay pride parade. you don't see normal people out having a heterosexual parade
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jan 18, 2010 0:13:49 GMT
I'm not sure why PC gets the blame here Anna. Respecting others choices when they do not affect you and your rights just seems like good manners to me - nothing to do with PC. Dearest June! You use the word "choice", which is a central question for this thread that i'm trying to start up. biglinmarshall.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=discussion&action=display&thread=4838 Yes the choices of those beyond my sphere of influence are not up to me! I can certainly have an influence on someone close to me, if choice is a factor. I don't believe in brutal force, but i often have a strong conviction or opinion about which road to take at a crossroad and will do whatever i can to nullify the influences of those wishing to draw someone i love the wrong way!
Jumbo is very right to be wary of pedophile organisations like Nambla pushing their recruitment program of young and vulnerable children and using "dumbed down liberalism" or PC to pave the way! The YouTube video below is an example how their agenda works! If we don't put a stop to gay fairy tales for schoolchildren they will get worse. In the YouTube video below the "gay childrens' story" uncritically accepts the fact the pedophile Uncle *#§^@ is using this confused boy as a sex object!
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Post by Big Lin on Jan 18, 2010 1:54:58 GMT
I think most people would agree that the MAJORITY of homosexuals are NOT paedophiles.
I have nothing but contempt and hatred towards nonces.
On the other hand, if consenting adults want to engage in same sex relationships, I honestly can't see the harm.
There are plenty of aspects of HETEROSEXUAL sex that I'm not that mad about!
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jan 18, 2010 3:30:06 GMT
I think most people would agree that the MAJORITY of homosexuals are NOT paedophiles. I have nothing but contempt and hatred towards nonces. On the other hand, if consenting adults want to engage in same sex relationships, I honestly can't see the harm. There are plenty of aspects of HETEROSEXUAL sex that I'm not that mad about! Dearest Lin! I certainly despise pedophiles too! Americans don't know what nonces are. I think we have to all ask ourselves the same question! If we open a door to a vulnerable area, like the education of children. Are we perhaps being followed through this opened door by some interests that we don't approve of?
And yes some heterosexual relationships are very "depraved" too!
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Post by jean on Jan 18, 2010 11:26:16 GMT
...heteros are not out every night trolling public park restrooms, airport restrooms, or other public facilities looking for gay sex, as all male homos do. that is just the homosexual lifestyle... If you were right, there would be no demand at all for gay 'marriage' and you could stop worrying on that score. But as you cruise public park restrooms, airport restrooms, or other public facilities in search of men looking for gay sex, you will miss all those couples sitting at home in front of the TV in boring same-sex monogamous domesticity.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Jan 18, 2010 12:28:56 GMT
I don't have any real problem with this story about the 2 male penguins, who had a closeness between them and mutual parential desires. I just really don't think it's fair to describe these penguins as homosexuals. A strong bond between a brother and a sister shouldn't be described as a heterosexual relationship either.
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Post by firedancer on Jan 18, 2010 16:20:25 GMT
I don't care either riotgrrl. In the same way as I don't care (emotionally) whether people are blue or brown eyed, short or tall, black or white etc. My comments were purely prompted by disinterested scientific curiosity, just the same as I am interested in the genetics of any aspect of the human body or psyche.
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Post by june on Jan 18, 2010 21:33:59 GMT
I'm not sure why PC gets the blame here Anna. Respecting others choices when they do not affect you and your rights just seems like good manners to me - nothing to do with PC. it is nothing but pc bs. no one, or very few anyway, disrespects anyones choice as long as that individual doesn't try to pass a degenerate choice off as normal, and parade it around in public if f.gs were decent, there would be no such thing as a gay pride parade. you don't see normal people out having a heterosexual parade Normal to you will be very different to me. Normal to now will be very different to pre Christian times. Normal is not normal ;D well, it's not constant anyway. I don't find homosexuality degenerate or abnormal - and gay pride parades are fab. Have you ever heard of Mardi Gras Jim? Or the English Winter Carnivals? I thought you Americans loves a parade - all that baton twirling etc
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 18, 2010 22:27:45 GMT
I think most people would agree that the MAJORITY of homosexuals are NOT paedophiles. I have nothing but contempt and hatred towards nonces. On the other hand, if consenting adults want to engage in same sex relationships, I honestly can't see the harm. There are plenty of aspects of HETEROSEXUAL sex that I'm not that mad about! once again hon, the only "harm" is to themselves, IF they keep it in the privacy of their own home. when they prance around in public, they harm EVERYONE of course, homo males HAVE already harmed thousands, if not millions, of normal people. it was STRICTLY homo males who spread aids, and caused it to enter the normal people population
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 18, 2010 22:30:50 GMT
...heteros are not out every night trolling public park restrooms, airport restrooms, or other public facilities looking for gay sex, as all male homos do. that is just the homosexual lifestyle... If you were right, there would be no demand at all for gay 'marriage' and you could stop worrying on that score. But as you cruise public park restrooms, airport restrooms, or other public facilities in search of men looking for gay sex, you will miss all those couples sitting at home in front of the TV in boring same-sex monogamous domesticity. don't be daft hon. no male homos are monogamous, especially in their twenties and thirties. in my lifetime, i have been with two hundred girls, but i can't hold a candle to the number of sex partners male homos have
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Post by randomvioce on Jan 18, 2010 22:32:28 GMT
when they prance around in public, they harm EVERYONE Er, how exactly? What possible difference does it make to anyone else if two gays walk down the street arm in arm? it was STRICTLY homo males who spread aids, and caused it to enter the normal people population Absolute garbage! Typical bigotry from the redneck brigade.
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