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Post by Big Lin on Oct 20, 2015 20:25:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 21:35:08 GMT
I wonder, maybe it is an attempt to find intelligent, creative thinkers, that is being sought, and, in lieu of those qualities (something that is diminishing) the strange is settled for. The ones who can actually converse, those who can actually think, those who are problem solvers, may be the real goal in these rapidly changing times. However, since such people are a minority (and apparently diminishing in numbers) oddness may be settled for as it incorrectly demonstrating efforts to achieve. But then, those who exhibit a predilection for succeeding in today's culture, may not be good mates for the long term as such may destructive of relationships rather than demonstrating the inclination for working together. Of course that is only an opinion and not fact.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 11:26:32 GMT
I wonder, maybe it is an attempt to find intelligent, creative thinkers, that is being sought, and, in lieu of those qualities (something that is diminishing) the strange is settled for. The ones who can actually converse, those who can actually think, those who are problem solvers, may be the real goal in these rapidly changing times. However, since such people are a minority (and apparently diminishing in numbers) oddness may be settled for as it incorrectly demonstrating efforts to achieve. But then, those who exhibit a predilection for succeeding in today's culture, may not be good mates for the long term as such may destructive of relationships rather than demonstrating the inclination for working together. Of course that is only an opinion and not fact. Where is your evidence to say that intelligent creative thinking women are diminishing?? On the contrary I think its on the increase
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 13:47:12 GMT
I wonder, maybe it is an attempt to find intelligent, creative thinkers, that is being sought, and, in lieu of those qualities (something that is diminishing) the strange is settled for. The ones who can actually converse, those who can actually think, those who are problem solvers, may be the real goal in these rapidly changing times. However, since such people are a minority (and apparently diminishing in numbers) oddness may be settled for as it incorrectly demonstrating efforts to achieve. But then, those who exhibit a predilection for succeeding in today's culture, may not be good mates for the long term as such may destructive of relationships rather than demonstrating the inclination for working together. Of course that is only an opinion and not fact. Where is your evidence to say that intelligent creative thinking women are diminishing?? On the contrary I think its on the increase Just being different, that is, going against the norm of society, doesn't equate to creativity or intelligence. While I made the observation half in jest, this applies to both men and women. A few in every age are creative and apply their intelligence in ways that demonstrate a positive impact on society, the rest are just copy cat wanna-bes. As society has evolved and opportunities have opened up for women (actually for all people) little has changed. Women have had opportunities in the past, generally associated with necessity when men went to war and each time women have proven more than equal to the task, but with the return to peace time they (more of less) returned to previous roles. When the work in society was primarily labor intensive, I guess there can be some justification for that reality. Today, women can work in just about any part of society and women can vote and they are more than half of the population. And yet, while technological advances have brought many things to all of us, society has changed little. Education is easily available to all and yet few people have accomplished much with that advanced occupation. We have the internet bringing nearly unlimited amounts of information to people but just go to any gathering spot (such as a restaurant) and listen to the conversations, movies and sports and how they'd like to have sex with (fill in the blank) are discussed as if they had any meaning in life. I'm not saying that such is necessarily wrong or right, just that nothing has really changed except that women can join men in being just as gross, just as in your face crude, as any man. That ability to do that should not be taken as intelligence, but it seems to be. But then I doubt that it has been different in any age.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 16:09:59 GMT
Where is your evidence to say that intelligent creative thinking women are diminishing?? On the contrary I think its on the increase Just being different, that is, going against the norm of society, doesn't equate to creativity or intelligence. While I made the observation half in jest, this applies to both men and women. A few in every age are creative and apply their intelligence in ways that demonstrate a positive impact on society, the rest are just copy cat wanna-bes. As society has evolved and opportunities have opened up for women (actually for all people) little has changed. Women have had opportunities in the past, generally associated with necessity when men went to war and each time women have proven more than equal to the task, but with the return to peace time they (more of less) returned to previous roles. When the work in society was primarily labor intensive, I guess there can be some justification for that reality. Today, women can work in just about any part of society and women can vote and they are more than half of the population. And yet, while technological advances have brought many things to all of us, society has changed little. Education is easily available to all and yet few people have accomplished much with that advanced occupation. We have the internet bringing nearly unlimited amounts of information to people but just go to any gathering spot (such as a restaurant) and listen to the conversations, movies and sports and how they'd like to have sex with (fill in the blank) are discussed as if they had any meaning in life. I'm not saying that such is necessarily wrong or right, just that nothing has really changed except that women can join men in being just as gross, just as in your face crude, as any man. That ability to do that should not be taken as intelligence, but it seems to be. But then I doubt that it has been different in any age. I didn't say being non conformist equates to intelligence you have introduced that as your observation its nothing to do with this thread which is about what attracts men to women seems to be the women who are different and don't conform to the "norm" . You clearly don't associate in the circles I do , I think on the whole people ,women, are better informed and educated than ever before and are using that to compete with men in the work force.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 17:08:31 GMT
Just being different, that is, going against the norm of society, doesn't equate to creativity or intelligence. While I made the observation half in jest, this applies to both men and women. A few in every age are creative and apply their intelligence in ways that demonstrate a positive impact on society, the rest are just copy cat wanna-bes. As society has evolved and opportunities have opened up for women (actually for all people) little has changed. Women have had opportunities in the past, generally associated with necessity when men went to war and each time women have proven more than equal to the task, but with the return to peace time they (more of less) returned to previous roles. When the work in society was primarily labor intensive, I guess there can be some justification for that reality. Today, women can work in just about any part of society and women can vote and they are more than half of the population. And yet, while technological advances have brought many things to all of us, society has changed little. Education is easily available to all and yet few people have accomplished much with that advanced occupation. We have the internet bringing nearly unlimited amounts of information to people but just go to any gathering spot (such as a restaurant) and listen to the conversations, movies and sports and how they'd like to have sex with (fill in the blank) are discussed as if they had any meaning in life. I'm not saying that such is necessarily wrong or right, just that nothing has really changed except that women can join men in being just as gross, just as in your face crude, as any man. That ability to do that should not be taken as intelligence, but it seems to be. But then I doubt that it has been different in any age. I didn't say being non conformist equates to intelligence you have introduced that as your observation its nothing to do with this thread which is about what attracts men to women seems to be the women who are different and don't conform to the "norm" . You clearly don't associate in the circles I do , I think on the whole people ,women, are better informed and educated than ever before and are using that to compete with men in the work force. As has always been the case attraction between men and women is defined as a singular thing but covers many things. In the past such attractions were (to a large extent) the seeking of a life mate and someone with whom one could raise children, I do not believe that to be the primary driving factor any more within Western culture. The changing of opportunities to no longer be physical labor focused has opened many opportunities for all people men and women included. Yes, this leads to a certain amount of competition for those work opportunities between men and women that didn't exist in the past. I would put it that it is more competitive between all who enter the work force. However, that doesn't necessarily equate to a greater use of creativity or of intelligence, it is just more competition among those in the work force. Within that context the attraction that exists when seeking a life mate is defined within the options of society. Obviously the options have changed from even 50 years ago. I believe that the desire for a 'life mate' has decreased and has been replaced by satisfying self desires that change over time and the changes of our society has made it more acceptable to change 'partners' along with those changing desires. I'm making a value judgment but simply recognizing the reality of the world in which we live. However, while these changes have come about in our society as a whole, they do not include some segments of our society where the seeking of a 'life' mate is still the dominate element in defining attractiveness.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2015 4:28:38 GMT
I wonder, maybe it is an attempt to find intelligent, creative thinkers, that is being sought, and, in lieu of those qualities (something that is diminishing) the strange is settled for.The ones who can actually converse, those who can actually think, those who are problem solvers, may be the real goal in these rapidly changing times. However, since such people are a minority (and apparently diminishing in numbers) oddness may be settled for as it incorrectly demonstrating efforts to achieve. lol. Yes, I think you have nailed it there!
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