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Post by ♫anna♫ on Dec 21, 2015 12:30:24 GMT
WTF has become so common that it is no longer as offensive as the full expression. You can usually get away with using the term WTF in mixed company without offending anyone. However, if you say, "What the F___," you are considerably more likely to offend someone. I don't think there is an equivalent expression because WTF may be used either to introduce a question: WTF are you talking about? or as an interjection: WTF! That's a load of bull! Much as you might dislike it Anna, I'm afraid WTF is here to stay. long live WTF! Of course Deleted you mean "What The Funk!"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 14:15:17 GMT
What not just use English to say what you want such as, "Boy am I surprised!" The expression "Boy" in our fast paced society is rarely used by the younger generations @menantol . "I'm surprised" is a pure English, which I support, but it's too disciplined too exorcise the f-word from those who are infected with it.
Gomer Pyle's "Shazam!" is polite and cordial, but I don't expect it to topple the f-word either.
I often said "Holy Mackerel" around my son and never used the f-word, but younger people see that as corny and something for retro fans like me.
I think words like "fooey", "fudd", "fudge" and other such harmless f-words are here and now the best bet to win back ground from the f-word epidemic. You're points are good ones Anna, but it is such a shame that with a language such as English with its depth and history to see its use deteriorate into guttural mumblings as if we were watching those in the sty express themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 15:12:20 GMT
I just watched the Academy Award Best Picture nominee "American Sniper." Lots of use of the F Word there but fully understandable given their circumstances. When your buddy just got his head blown off right next to you, I doubt you'd be concerned about decorum. Hi Bush Admirer, I don't like hearing the word and I don't like seeing it written down in full, but I am willing to accept the initials in a post by someone if they can't restrain themselves. Isn't being willing to accept the use of these words, empowering these people who use them to just use more. It seems to me 'accepting' the use of such words is just as bad as the using of them.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 21, 2015 19:28:17 GMT
Hi Gibby, it is classed as disturbing the peace if someone complains, so the person would be warned, if they refused to comply, they would be charged and probably fined.. well anyone who would complain about that and get someone in trouble with the police must be a twisted individual how petty can you get! These are strong words Gibby, if the two people involved are asked nicely to stop swearing, that should have been enough. I shudder when I hear anyone swearing. It's one thing to swear in your home, but not in public. That is over the top as far as I am concerned. It is a sign of uncaring people, for sure. Horrible.!!! Horrible.!!! Horrible.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 21, 2015 19:41:19 GMT
Hi Bush Admirer, I don't like hearing the word and I don't like seeing it written down in full, but I am willing to accept the initials in a post by someone if they can't restrain themselves. Isn't being willing to accept the use of these words, empowering these people who use them to just use more. It seems to me 'accepting' the use of such words is just as bad as the using of them. Hi Men an tol, it isn't nice, but what can you do? When people persist in swearing so much so, that it is becoming common place. I have always thought that people who swear continually are low in intellect as they have very limited use of the English language.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 21, 2015 19:56:27 GMT
Of course Deleted you mean "What The Funk!" Hi Anna, I for one wouldn't be hanging around with someone whose every second word is a swear word. It seems that instead of the human race improving in their behaviour, it is deteriorating.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 21, 2015 20:08:15 GMT
I guess that is why people leave forums. They evidently cannot stand a daily doze of swear words in their diet, that someone keeps dishing out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 20:11:42 GMT
I wonder if there is a provable connection between lowering education levels and lessening ability to fully use one’s language.
It seems that as the software packages to check spelling and syntax correctness have increased, the ability to write coherently has decreased. A friend of mine who is a newspaper publisher once told me that they have had to reduce the writing skills requirements for reporters because they are finding it increasingly difficult to locate those with sufficient skills to write.
There also seems to be a reduction in the ability for people to use math. There is a connection between those who are trained use math and the ability to be an actual musician who can compose. The way that music also seems to be declining into a 3 note composition with mere repeating between bars seems to demonstrate this decreasing capability.
So, decreasing language skills and decreasing math skills, it seems that we are coming closer to only communicating through the use of pictures.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 21:52:21 GMT
well anyone who would complain about that and get someone in trouble with the police must be a twisted individual how petty can you get! These are strong words Gibby, if the two people involved are asked nicely to stop swearing, that should have been enough. I shudder when I hear anyone swearing. It's one thing to swear in your home, but not in public. That is over the top as far as I am concerned. It is a sign of uncaring people, for sure. Horrible.!!! Horrible.!!! Horrible.!!! Everyone slips now and then but if I am some place and a person simply continues to use such words, I'll go and quietly and politely ask them to cease using such words. Nearly always they will look surprised but then stop. There have been a few times where they expressed rather strongly for me to get lost. Then we talked a little more and I was far more intense, again they stopped using such words, at least in that time and place. People can do what they want until they step into my environment, and even then most things are forgotten, but in those few instances where it continues, I will make sure that it ends.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 22, 2015 22:20:45 GMT
I once had an employee, Marshall M, who grew up in a tough Jewish neighborhood in Boston. In addition to having a thick Boston accent, he had a very foul mouth. Not only did he use the F word constantly, he also streamed outrageous insults like, "I f_____ your mother last night but she wasn't any good," or "Since you're a queer, you wouldn't know what it is like to be a real man," or "Your sister was trying to sell herself to me yesterday but I turned her down because she overpriced herself at five dollars."
I gave up trying to get him to clean up his act. It was just deeply embedded into the culture where he grew up. That was the way friends greeted one another. It wasn't anything serious with them, just their way of socializing that he learned in that macho blue collar neighborhood.
Of course he only talked that way when socializing with friends. In business discussions with clients he was prim and proper.
Good luck trying to get the F word out of Marshall's vocabulary.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 22, 2015 22:25:59 GMT
I tried to think of another expression comparable to WTF, but nothing quite fits.
"What the Hell," is another frequently heard expression that means something entirely different. We hear that one used when preparing to take risks. For example, just before jumping out of an airplane with a parachute, you might say, "What the hell." Or perhaps you're in Monaco at the Casino and, having lost all of your money except your last 100 Euro note, you toss it out on the table and exclaim, "Oh what the hell!"
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 22, 2015 22:36:06 GMT
Anna said, "I'm confident that changing fashion and time will sooner or later make the f-word sound very old BushAdmirer."
Ahhhh, the incessant onward march of Political Correctness. You might be right, Anna, but I'm not convinced that would be a good thing. I'm not in love with the F word, but I absolutely hate Political Correctness, so call it mixed emotions if you like.
Our society has pretty much gotten rid of the "N Word." However, not our entire society. Young negro rappers and hip hoppers refer to each other as 'niggers.' It is OK for them but not for us. Go figure.
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 22, 2015 22:39:23 GMT
The other side of the issue on this F Word debate is that some people are too touchy-feely and too easily offended.
I once had a go-around with a female customer representative who was offended by the use of the word "guys" when referring to women. I made the mistake of referring to her, and her coworkers (both male and female), as "you guys." Big mistake. She was visibly offended and corrected me by saying, "I'm not a guy!."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 22:59:37 GMT
I once had an employee, Marshall M, who grew up in a tough Jewish neighborhood in Boston. In addition to having a thick Boston accent, he had a very foul mouth. Not only did he use the F word constantly, he also streamed outrageous insults like, "I f_____ your mother last night but she wasn't any good," or "Since you're a queer, you wouldn't know what it is like to be a real man," or "Your sister was trying to sell herself to me yesterday but I turned her down because she overpriced herself at five dollars." I gave up trying to get him to clean up his act. It was just deeply embedded into the culture where he grew up. That was the way friends greeted one another. It wasn't anything serious with them, just their way of socializing that he learned in that macho blue collar neighborhood. Of course he only talked that way when socializing with friends. In business discussions with clients he was prim and proper. Good luck trying to get the F word out of Marshall's vocabulary. I do understand the point you are making BushAdmirer, a man I worked with in the manufacturing shops could not talk without using cuss words. He just couldn’t do it. He grew up with it in his family and friends and they were still that way and at the time he was about 50 years old. At the same time, he was well educated and one of the best machine repairman and top gun smith I ever met. It is those who have learned to speak but using the range of the language, but insist on using curse words to shock or make a point. Usually they seem to be younger and, I guess, they’re trying to seem older.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 23, 2015 9:31:41 GMT
I tried to think of another expression comparable to WTF, but nothing quite fits. "What the Hell," is another frequently heard expression that means something entirely different. We hear that one used when preparing to take risks. For example, just before jumping out of an airplane with a parachute, you might say, "What the hell." Or perhaps you're in Monaco at the Casino and, having lost all of your money except your last 100 Euro note, you toss it out on the table and exclaim, "Oh what the hell!" Hi Bush Admirer, A person might use that expression when surprised by something that happened that they were not expecting. I've heard it used both ways.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 23, 2015 9:42:16 GMT
The other side of the issue on this F Word debate is that some people are too touchy-feely and too easily offended. I once had a go-around with a female customer representative who was offended by the use of the word "guys" when referring to women. I made the mistake of referring to her, and her coworkers (both male and female), as "you guys." Big mistake. She was visibly offended and corrected me by saying, "I'm not a guy!." Hi Bush Admirer, I think the word guys is more a uni sex word now and can be used for men or women when in a group. I don't mind it.!!!
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Post by DAS (formerly BushAdmirer) on Dec 23, 2015 14:19:48 GMT
My wife occasionally uses the F word.
For example, she recently told me"
"When I want your f______ advice I'll tell you."
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Post by Big Lin on Dec 23, 2015 22:46:29 GMT
My wife occasionally uses the F word. For example, she recently told me" "When I want your f______ advice I'll tell you." Ah, you must mean your 'free' advice, BA!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 23:02:45 GMT
That's funny! I think it more than once but try not to say it out loud!
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