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Post by Big Lin on Oct 28, 2009 17:11:45 GMT
I wonder why crickett never caught on in the USA? I prefer playing baseball to watching it.....it was a great pastime when we were growing up until the day I took a line drive between the eyes......maybe that is why I'm a little fuked up in life.... In the old days it was enormously popular, with Philadelphia being the top club in America. John Barton King is probably the greatest cricketing all-rounder the Americans produced. He could bat, bowl fast and was a brilliant fielder. He also played baseball and tried to adapt some baseball deliveries to his cricket game and vice versa. Actually cricket is a lot simpler than people think it is. And, of course, with the growing numbers of people who've emigrated to the US from the Indian subcontinent, it will probably grow in popularity again.
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Post by gabriel on Oct 29, 2009 10:34:05 GMT
chef, cricket I don't know, you need to be brought up with it. To understand it. The one day bang and bash shows are great entertainment but there is nothing to match a test. 4-5 days of plotting, skills, endurance.
Lin, it must suck really big time not being able to access your own site. I was in London for a month last year and there was a great Internet cafe just around the corner.
Anyway, Australia went down. I thought so.
India beat Australia to level one-day series 06:27 AEST Thu Oct 29 2009Related links: Scorecard: India v Australia, 2nd ODI
Skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni smashed a blistering century as India whipped injury-hit Australia by 99 runs on Wednesday to level their seven-match one-day series 1-1.
Dhoni hit 124 off 107 balls and Gautam Gambhir and Suresh Raina chipped in with half-centuries as India, sent in to bat, accumulated their highest one-day total against Australia -- 354-7 from 50 overs.
In reply, the world champions, who won the first match by four runs in Vadodara on Sunday, were bowled out for 255 in the day-night international, with left-hander Michael Hussey top-scoring with 53.
Indian seamer Praveen Kumar took two wickets in his first spell before young left-arm spinner Ravindra Jadeja polished off the middle order with figures of 3-35.
Some 40,000 home fans cheered lustily as Dhoni put on 119 for the fourth wicket with Gambhir (76) and a swashbuckling 136 from 93 balls for the fifth with Suresh Raina, who made 62.
"This win was very special," said Dhoni, who was named man of the match. "We maintained a run-rate of over six an over when we batted and the bowlers gained in confidence.
"It should be a very interesting series."
Australian captain Ricky Ponting admitted the two teams will once again "start from scratch."
"The wicket was very good, but it was a hard run chase," he said. "Full credit to India, who outplayed us today.
"We needed to get partnerships going but the loss of three quick wickets at the start made the job tougher. But I am sure we will bounce back."
Enjoying perfect batting conditions at the Vidarbha Cricket Association stadium, the hosts plundered 108 runs in the final 10 overs, overtaking their previous best against Australia of 315 all out in Bangalore in 2001.
Dhoni reached his fifth one-day century by smashing Shane Watson for a straight six, and celebrated the landmark with another six off the next ball in the same area.
The aggressive Indian captain was one of three batsmen to be dismissed in the 50th over, but not before he had taken nine boundaries and three sixes off the truncated Australian attack.
The tourists, already without one-day regulars Michael Clarke, Brad Haddin and Nathan Bracken for the series, were further depleted by injuries to paceman Brett Lee and all-rounder James Hopes.
However, left-arm fast bowler Mitchell Johnson was declared fit from an ankle sprain and claimed the important wicket of Virender Sehwag in the 11th over, caught at mid-off attempting a big hit.
Sehwag smashed a typically robust 40 off 31 balls to give India the momentum after veteran batsman Sachin Tendulkar was removed by Peter Siddle in the fourth over.
For the second match in a row, two Indian umpires took charge in the middle after the International Cricket Council-appointed Mark Benson of England failed to recover from a viral infection.
The third match will be played in New Delhi on Saturday.
And it is an injury hit Australia.
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Post by chefmate on Oct 29, 2009 15:20:57 GMT
I watched a few clips and just don't get it.......I guess like anything else, it is an acquired taste and one must immerse oneself into understanding the game
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Post by chefmate on Oct 29, 2009 15:21:39 GMT
is a bowler a pitcher and do people run bases like we do in baseball?
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 29, 2009 15:31:09 GMT
is a bowler a pitcher and do people run bases like we do in baseball? Yeah the bowler is the pitcher in cricket and when the batter or batsmen gets a hit he runs forward to where what baseball would call the pitcher's mound and back to what baseball calls home plate! He can run a second time in that order if it's a good hit! In baseball you have to run on all hits in fair terrority and in cricket if the batter doesn't like his hit he won't run and risk being called out! I'm sure Lin and Gabriel can explain that better!
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Oct 29, 2009 15:36:53 GMT
chef, I played softball in my teens. I was OK until I threw the bat and hit one of my friends across the bridge of the nose and broke it. You don't throw bats in cricket. Not unless you're pi**** off with the Umpire then ..well I had trouble holding on to the bat after a swing. It took a while to strengthen my grip and prevent this. i was in 3rd grade at the time and my Dad was teaching me baseball. He liked hardball baseball too and not softball that girls usually play!
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Post by gabriel on Oct 30, 2009 7:53:25 GMT
is a bowler a pitcher and do people run bases like we do in baseball? OK. You have the pitch, which is what the batsmen run on. It's the ground. You have a set of stumps at either end. To get a run you have to run to the other end. Both batsmen run at the same time. You can run 2 or 3 times( really, I suppose, as many times as you like until the bowler gets the ball back). To get a 4, you hit the boundary. To get a 6, you hit the ball over the boundary.
No, it's not like baseball with the bases.www.howtoplaycricket.org/how-to-play-cricket/how-to-play-cricket-a-beginners-guide“Cricket is played with two teams of eleven players , with two umpires (referees) on an oval shaped field. The size of the field varies, but generally has a diameter of around 350 yards. A cricket bat is oblong shaped with a narrow handle. A full-sized bat is around 3 feet in length. A cricket ball is made of cork and covered with leather, and is then stitched up. A ball weighs around 5 ounces. In the middle of the field is what is known as a pitch. A pitch is a hard, flat strip of dry ground around 22 yards long. Two batsman are at the pitch at a time, both at different ends, with one facing the delivery of the ball from the bowler. At either end of the pitch is the crease. This is a line marked about 4 feet in from either end of the pitch, and it is used for 2 reasons. The first is as a mark from which the bowler must bowl from or behind, and a mark for the batsmen to stand at to deliver the ball and to mark whether a run has been completed. If a batsmen is out of his crease, he can be stumped by the wicket keeper if he is receiving the ball at the batsmen’s end, or can be run out by the fielders at either end when taking a run. I won't go into too much detail. You're probably completely bewildered.
There are one day games and test matches can last up to 5 days.
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Post by chefmate on Oct 30, 2009 12:01:54 GMT
lot's to learn........maybe will take some time and watch a few clips again
it is confusing at first
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Post by gabriel on Oct 30, 2009 13:01:18 GMT
You know, I must be in a minority but I never rated McGrath as a top bowler. I've always thought he was a wannabe.Anyway.wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=924163Ponting still seeks McGrath replacement 13:37 AEST Thu Oct 29 2009 The loss of Glenn McGrath as a "death bowler" is still impacting the Aussies, says Ricky Ponting. Australian captain Ricky Ponting believes his limited overs bowling attack is still missing the late innings skills of Glenn McGrath, more than two and a half years after he retired. While Cricket Australia's hierarchy have praised the rebuilding efforts that have taken place since the loss of McGrath and other members of the team's "golden generation", Ponting admitted he was yet to see another bowler who could constrict an opposition's hitting at the death quite so effectively. In two matches on the tour of India, Australia have turned a likely comfortable game one win into a narrow four-run scrape with untidy bowling to tailend pair Harbhajan Singh and Praveen Kumar, then been crunched fearfully by MS Dhoni and Suresh Raina in the final overs of game two. Shane Watson had been emerging as a death bowler of worth but all that good work has been undone in two matches here, while Mitchell Johnson and Ben Hilfenhaus were not precise enough to stop Dhoni. "It has been (an issue) for a long time, ever since Pigeon (McGrath) moved on, bowling at the death," Ponting said. "We have mixed and matched trying new guys over the past few years to try and find the guys that can do that well for us. "I think they got 108 off the last 10, that was too many to give up. "It just goes to show that when you have batsmen at the crease who can strike the ball the way some of the Indian guys can you only have to be a few centimetres out with your execution and you will go. "They had wickets in hand and were able to play pretty freely towards the end so that always adds a few runs on." Ponting knew before the Nagpur match that without Brett Lee and James Hopes his attack would be weakened, but his decision to field first and allow his batsmen to chase simply exposed the attack to a hungry opponent in perfect conditions. "I guess it is not very often I do win the toss and bowl," he said. "The team balance has been thrown out a bit with Hopes going out the side and Brett, our most experienced bowler, not being in the side. "We knew out batting was our strongest suit going into the game so chasing runs I thought would suit the make-up of our side. "I also thought the wicket would remain pretty much throughout the game. "All the reasoning behind winning the toss and bowling was there, we just didn't back it up well enough - India seized the momentum and batted really well." I'm over Ricky Ponting. I'm buggered if I know how he ever became Australia's captain. He has never deserved to be there.
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Post by trubble on Oct 30, 2009 16:18:18 GMT
lot's to learn........maybe will take some time and watch a few clips again it is confusing at first It's not exciting to watch unless you understand it and it's boring to try to understand by theory. You just have to play it to get, I think.
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 30, 2009 18:08:44 GMT
Australia hit by injury problems.
Brad Haddin (the first choice wicket-keeper) is just recovering from a finger injury; Tim Paine (his replacement) is now out of the series with a finger injury of his own; and Graham Manou, who didn't look that good behind the stumps in his only Test in England, has been called in as cover.
Injuries to key players can tilt the balance of a series.
I do agree that it helps a lot to play a game in terms of understanding it but on the other hand both Ireland and Holland seem to be catching on!
Apparently it's also gaining popularity in France as well!
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Post by gabriel on Oct 31, 2009 7:00:34 GMT
H'm I get Ireland. But Holland and France? I know Canada has a team.
I live across from a park and the local cricket plays A grade games on Saturdays so I've been out watching them this afternoon. Nothing spectacular but I always enjoy watching a game.
Australia has all sorts of probs. Too many matches? That's what they're paid for. And paid handsomely. They are professional athletes representing their country and they're not impressing me at the moment.
I guess that's one big difference between baseball and cricket. There is an international competition among cricket playing countries.
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Post by Big Lin on Oct 31, 2009 17:01:44 GMT
H'm I get Ireland. But Holland and France? I know Canada has a team. I live across from a park and the local cricket plays A grade games on Saturdays so I've been out watching them this afternoon. Nothing spectacular but I always enjoy watching a game. Australia has all sorts of probs. Too many matches? That's what they're paid for. And paid handsomely. They are professional athletes representing their country and they're not impressing me at the moment. I guess that's one big difference between baseball and cricket. There is an international competition among cricket playing countries. Holland beat England in the 20/20, and a couple of Dutch guys have played country cricket. Denmark used to be quite good but not for about ten years now. France is beginning to play the game because of all the expat Brits who've moved there. I guess cricket's a lot more fun than boules!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2009 19:32:29 GMT
France is beginning to play the game because of all the expat Brits who've moved there. I guess cricket's a lot more fun than boules! I'm not sure that says a lot.... it takes up a lot more space though!
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Post by Liberator on Nov 1, 2009 0:47:17 GMT
Sadly, there's evidence that although India-Pakistan are still vibrantly (and sometimes violently) cricketing nations (Bangla Desh does not seem to be) young West Indians appear to be turning more to baseball. I've never understood the runs system there because it does not seem to be the same as rounders.
Maybe next year I will remember in time to try and find a Croquet Club. Magnificent game even less possible to play without messing the opposition up as well as advancing oneself than snooker. Also, the only game I know of apart from Golf where two (theoretically more) independent games can share the same court independently.
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Post by gabriel on Nov 1, 2009 5:24:44 GMT
Well, about the West Indies, they are closer to the US geographically and baseball pays a lot more money for the top line athletes than cricket does. So I guess in a way it makes sense. I also think the fact that the WI has had pretty mediocre teams for the last decade at least and that doesn't help inspire kids.
Still, it's a shame. You think back to the glory days, IMO, for the WI with Viv Richards, Michael Holding and all the extremely talented players, especially bowlers. They were a powerful force in world cricket.
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Post by Liberator on Nov 1, 2009 19:50:41 GMT
It could be that a vicious circle has set in if the potential good players are going into baseball. I can't pretend to care much for cricket but you could always sense a really lively atmosphere in the 70s round Edgbaston because so many West Indians live round there. Here, one has to remember (often never gets the chance to forget!) that sport has political overtones, so cricket has 'English' associations and soccer doesn't have the massive following it does in Britain. On the other hand, membership of a Gaelic Football or Hurling team is said to be obligatory for membership of the police or the IRA (and not a few rumoured to belong to both). Best said about Gaelic football is that it is the direct ancestor of Australian Rules (rules?) played with a round ball - your imagination can fill the rest in (and the Dublin team has a reputation for foul play)
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Post by gabriel on Nov 2, 2009 9:23:31 GMT
Well, Australia down in the 3rd one dayer against India. However, tonight's game is on a much better pitch than in Delhi. Only prob will be the dew as night falls. Ponting wants to be 2 all at this stage, not 3-1 down.
At drinks, Australia is 3 -166. Not bad.
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Post by gabriel on Nov 3, 2009 7:43:12 GMT
Australia won by 24 runs so 2 all.
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Post by ♫anna♫ on Nov 3, 2009 18:12:19 GMT
The US baseball "World Series" is now being played out between the underdog Philadelphia Phillies and the well financed New York Yankees! The Yankees have won 3 games and the Phillies 2 so far! The First team to win 4 games is declared the winner of the "Baseball World Championship"! I love to see big money teams get beat!
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